Dealing with Inquisitors

[Blademun]

I really need help with this. In my latest campaign as Portugal, I am being screwed over by the Inqusitors. I really don't understand why they are going after me. I have done everything the pope asks of me; crusades, building churchs, killing heretics. I tribute him regularly with land and money, my rep is always perfect with him. Yet still he has insisted in killing off half of my family.

The worst part of this is my family isn't that big, and my armys are. I am always hurting for generals, and then the Inquisitors kill off the few I have. When my king died a few turns ago, his successor turns out to have no authority at all. Guess what happened to all my armys that had their generals Inquisitioned? Yep..they rebelled.

This is screwed up; I have the power to conquer all of europe twice over, but I'm being done in by a handfull of inqusitors and a weak king(they killed my good heir). I'm about hairs length away from throwing my papal relations out the window and march my armies into rome and repeatedly kill the pope.

This doesn't seem historical at all. I don't remember Inquisitors having the power to march into a soverign country and kill all of its royal family. Furthermore, there doesn't seem to be any effective way to raise my familys piety. The whole Inquisition system in this game seems broken. Isn't there anything (aside from running away) that can be done?

*NOTE*: I am running vers 1.1.

[Warluster]

Well that happened in my English campaign and I ended up ignoring the pope. no one minded,other then the pope of course. And then he sent his Inquisters and same thing happened. I had about 40 family members and about 20 were killed off. So simple, this is what ya do. Train Assasain's and murder them. Worked perfect. Plus Status with the Pope went up. But if they discovered the Assasain, then it is war with the pope and his allies.

[Lord_Tamerial]

Well since that your Portugal and your obviously near water, put your General(s) in a fleet for a couple of turns.(Or until your attacked or, of in wanting of use of him) Inquisitors can't put him into trial because he is in a ship. On the other note , as Warluster said, train assassin's. When I play as Portugal, I had the best Assassin's(IMO). I had Assassin's Guilds all over the place. Being Portugal, Spain and the Moore's are very close to you. Easy assassination targets on your doorstep. I hope this helps.

[nameless]

I've never had issues with Inquistors but if it's that bad...

Use either the assassin move or the "move_character" cheat. Send those idiots off to some remote island.

[Ignoramus]

Those poor Rhodians...

[Pahoo]

I've had an Inquisitor burn a general of mine while on board a ship... it was close to the shore though.

[Blademun]

I am pretty late im my campaign, turn 95, I have all of Iberia, France, and most of North Africa. I had one maxed out assasin and a couple half-done. The Inqusitors were all within 1-2 stars of being maxed, and one was maxed. My assasin could barely touch him. It ususally took around 3-4 turns a inqusitor to rid them. I did eventually kill them all, but not before they did their damage.

I think I'd actually like to mod Inquisitors out of the game, permanently. ANy idea how to do that?

[gingergenius]

I really need help with this. In my latest campaign as Portugal, I am being screwed over by the Inqusitors. I really don't understand why they are going after me. I have done everything the pope asks of me; crusades, building churchs, killing heretics. I tribute him regularly with land and money, my rep is always perfect with him. Yet still he has insisted in killing off half of my family.

The worst part of this is my family isn't that big, and my armys are. I am always hurting for generals, and then the Inquisitors kill off the few I have. When my king died a few turns ago, his successor turns out to have no authority at all. Guess what happened to all my armys that had their generals Inquisitioned? Yep..they rebelled.

This is screwed up; I have the power to conquer all of europe twice over, but I'm being done in by a handfull of inqusitors and a weak king(they killed my good heir). I'm about hairs length away from throwing my papal relations out the window and march my armies into rome and repeatedly kill the pope.

This doesn't seem historical at all. I don't remember Inquisitors having the power to march into a soverign country and kill all of its royal family. Furthermore, there doesn't seem to be any effective way to raise my familys piety. The whole Inquisition system in this game seems broken. Isn't there anything (aside from running away) that can be done?

*NOTE*: I am running vers 1.1.

i feel your pain, brother.

after killing off the othre catholic factions, there was a succession of english popes who I had perfect relations with. Yet 7* general after 7* general kept being inquisited - they seemed to leave the rubbish generals alone. THe last straw was when they denounced one who was a born conqueror, and I had been training him up since age 16 - he had 8* by 35 and perfect retinue and traits, great loyalty, quite a high dread and low chivalry. I got angry and invaded Rome, exterminationg its population. The papacy still lives on in the background, yet the inquisitors calm down a bit, mainly focussing on merchants. Apart from killing all but my 10* general in Baghdad where my Timurid defences were - the 2nd time they came my successful armies from the first time had lost their generals and therefore rebelled.

[sapi]

Inquisitors don't bother me that much, but there is no way that they should be able to kill your units when you're excommunicated :(

[Rilder]

Yea they should have 2 rules for inquisitors: 1 if your Max or near max with the pope they shouldn't be able to attack you, and 2 if you are 0 with the pope they shouldnt be able to attack you, this would make them better for keeping the bad little catholic schoolboys in touch but the uber bad or uber awesome are protected

[General Zhukov]

I generally find that heretic micromanagement is more of a pain than inquisitors. I had a piety 10 inquis. run around Spain for 40 years and he never touched my piety 3 heir in Zaragossa... Seems pretty random.

I recall that in the recent movie The Fountain, this bloodthirsty inquisitor is tried to kill Queen Isabella of Spain. Not that that means anything, but if it makes you feel better...

[TevashSzat]

if worst comes to worst and an inquisitor tried to burn your 10 star general, hunt him down and kill him by surrounding him with troops and then move a unit on top of him, instant death. Think of it as that you are arresting him for murder.

[Swordfish]

My first post here. I was lurking for about a week, but I finally got the game so I decided to register. This compelled me to make my first post for the following joke...

I generally find that heretic micromanagement is more of a pain than inquisitors. I had a piety 10 inquis. run around Spain for 40 years and he never touched my piety 3 heir in Zaragossa... Seems pretty random.

They're doing their job well then.

Nobody suspects the Spanish Inquisition! (I'm surprised this thread got this far without someone making that joke.)

[LordKhaine]

Inquisitors don't bother me that much, but there is no way that they should be able to kill your units when you're excommunicated :(

Seconded. Really annoying. And somewhat related but can't excommunicated factions still get cardinals? I'm sure I saw Hungary get a Pope elected despite them being excommunicated before the elections!

Though coming back to the problem at hand, I might add that the best way to avoid inquisitors is to avoid having high levels of heresy in your own lands. And for safety make sure your neighbours don't either! Otherwise inquisitors from their lands may end up wandering into your lands also.

[Moah]

Seconded. Really annoying. And somewhat related but can't excommunicated factions still get cardinals? I'm sure I saw Hungary get a Pope elected despite them being excommunicated before the elections!

Only your leader is excommunicated - and any who follow him go to hell. When Frederick 11 was excommunicated (three times, wihtout ever getting back in - now that takes talent!) he hired muslim mercs to fight for him as they didn't care. Which upset the pope even more. So he excommunicated him again...so Frederick..you get teh general idea.

You still rule your country but the people (who are good catholics) hate you (+20% unrest). Your Bishops still exist they just preach against you in church - urging the people to overthrow you etc... You can stil have cardinals who elect the pope, they just hate you. There were still priests in England after Henry v111 seceded. They preached against his heresy and the "traitors" in teh Anglican church.

[LordKhaine]

I just imagine the Monarch would be able to stop inquisitors openly going around his own lands killing his generals.