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    Yea they should have 2 rules for inquisitors: 1 if your Max or near max with the pope they shouldn't be able to attack you, and 2 if you are 0 with the pope they shouldnt be able to attack you, this would make them better for keeping the bad little catholic schoolboys in touch but the uber bad or uber awesome are protected

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    I generally find that heretic micromanagement is more of a pain than inquisitors. I had a piety 10 inquis. run around Spain for 40 years and he never touched my piety 3 heir in Zaragossa... Seems pretty random.

    I recall that in the recent movie The Fountain, this bloodthirsty inquisitor is tried to kill Queen Isabella of Spain. Not that that means anything, but if it makes you feel better...


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    if worst comes to worst and an inquisitor tried to burn your 10 star general, hunt him down and kill him by surrounding him with troops and then move a unit on top of him, instant death. Think of it as that you are arresting him for murder.
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    From my experience, there are two possibilities with inquisitors: 1) the inquisitors have been dispatched into your lands, and 2) the inquisitors are in other factions (possibly former) lands and you just inherited their presence. The first generally only happens when you are both not on the good side of the Pope and have a high amount of heresy. If you keep heresy under control and keep your relationship with the Pope up near the top, inquisitors will never head into your lands looking for you specifically. It's the second case that causes problems.

    A lot of times, the inquisitors went there because the AI faction let heresy spiral out of control, or else got on the Pope's bad side. Occasionally the inquisitors will pass through your lands on the way to someplace else. The trouble is that the inquisitors ARE random. If there are targets within range, it seems they just check randomly for each to decide if they are going to try that target for heresy. It doesn't seem to matter what faction the target belongs to, its piety, standing with the Pope or anything else. I had some problems like this early in my Venice game. The pope was sending out inquisitors after the HRE and the French, but they burned a few priests and a couple of generals of mine on the way through.

    The best suggestion I can make is to combine all the tactics: stay on the good side of the pope, keep your valuable generals away from where the inquisitors are located, squish them with armies, and put down heresy in your own lands. I'll add one of my own: keep priests around where the inquisitors are. They seem to burn priests before generals, as long as the priest is closer.
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    Inquisitors are so annoying. In my Spanish Campaign they have burnt about 4 of my generals so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xdeathfire
    if worst comes to worst and an inquisitor tried to burn your 10 star general, hunt him down and kill him by surrounding him with troops and then move a unit on top of him, instant death. Think of it as that you are arresting him for murder.
    I had 4 Inquisitors who killed the vast majority of my family members. I finally had to resort to this trick to kill two of them, and the other 2 decided to go attack Denmark instead for a while. Hasta la vista!

    I doubt the Rhodes for Rome gambit will work....if Inquisitors can nail you while you're aboard ship, I can't believe a little thing like being on an island will slow them down. But report back!
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    Yes and no, but I think you need to do it in reverse order. Take Rhodes, gift it to the pope. Take another island and hold onto it. Now take Rome. If the Papal States only has Rhodes as another territory, it'll relocate the capitol there. Then gift him another territory for peace. Yes, they can supposedly get you on boats, but only if you go close to them. They won't be wandering.

    Of course, post patch, you have to worry about the Papal Monster (tm). The pope seems to be naval invasion-happy, along with every other faction. After installing the patch he got up off his laurels and went a-conquering in Africa, all on his own, in my last game. Nobody gave him any territory. He just loaded up an army on the ships and sailed down to Tunis to go after the Moors.
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    Actually, I prefer to send them on an expedition into the Sahara Desert. Hmm, I'm surprised there aren't any Monty Python-related easter eggs in the game itself....
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    They probably used those up in Rome. I know I found the Judean People's Front there, and the aquaduct (what have the Romans ever done for us? This, that's what!).
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    My first post here. I was lurking for about a week, but I finally got the game so I decided to register. This compelled me to make my first post for the following joke...

    Quote Originally Posted by General Zhukov
    I generally find that heretic micromanagement is more of a pain than inquisitors. I had a piety 10 inquis. run around Spain for 40 years and he never touched my piety 3 heir in Zaragossa... Seems pretty random.
    They're doing their job well then.

    Nobody suspects the Spanish Inquisition! (I'm surprised this thread got this far without someone making that joke.)
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    I had a piety 0 general who was found innocent. Every other General inspected has been burnt though.
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    I usually go on a Crusade very early in the game (within 20 turns) and take (by ship) as many generals as possible leaving only one behind.

    All generals come back with high loyalty and piety - no inquisitions are possible as long as the live!

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    Quillan: I believe I experienced the latter of the two situations you mentioned. All of my lands were around 99% catholic, however, the French whom I conquered(not hard) had always been at odds with the pope. The trio of super inquisitors lingered around for a long time, going after my generals who were protecting the front lines along Bern/Bruges.

    I believe they were trully after my 9 Dread king. He was the best king I ever had so naturally they'd want to kill him. I'd move my army up and some enemy armys would just turn around and walk off the field. It was hilarious. Sadly he died of old age(and much carting around to avoid the inquisitors).

    From now on, one of the first moves I'm going to make is take Rhodes, then Rome, and then sue for peace by giving the Pope Rhodes. Then all the retarded little Inqusitors he pumps out like the queen alien will be stuck on that little island for the whole game.

    Really though, I'd like to permanently mod the Inquisition out of the game...anyone know how?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blademun
    From now on, one of the first moves I'm going to make is take Rhodes, then Rome, and then sue for peace by giving the Pope Rhodes. Then all the retarded little Inqusitors he pumps out like the queen alien will be stuck on that little island for the whole game.
    Thats a great idea! I am going to try that here shortly.

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    My first post here. I was lurking for about a week, but I finally got the game so I decided to register. This compelled me to make my first post for the following joke...



    They're doing their job well then.

    Nobody suspects the Spanish Inquisition! (I'm surprised this thread got this far without someone making that joke.)

    Er, "expects"? ;)
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    Well actually someone has already said that! Swordfish said that at post #15.

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    Well actually someone has already said that! Swordfish said that at post #15.

    NeutralZone was quoting me to correct what I said; just didn't wrap quote tags around it. And I think he's right, it is "expects" not "suspects." My Monty Python collection doesn't include that bit yet, so I wasn't able to verify.

    Though I'm still surprised the thread went as long as it did without someone making that joke.

    Bit of a funny story though: Once when I was playing Medieval 1 )when you could make your own Inquisitors), I actually did have an Inquisitor from Spain in my territory (I was Denmark). That guy was tearing my armys apart too, just about every turn he was in my territory he had killed another general. I ignored him at first, figuring it would just blow over, but after he had pissed me off I went to see what country he was from, and nearly fell out of my seat when I saw it was Spain.

    ... Once I regained my composure, I promtly invaded them.
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    Yeah, I think the Inquisitors are a random generated thing. :/

    Oh well, I ended up just playing the moors. While I don't have to deal with Inqusitors, the wars are constant. Catholic Europe apparently didn't appreciate me taking Iberia/france..

    I'd really like to see the monty python show that has the spanish inquisition gag in it. I've only seen a couple clips.

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    I've lost maybe two family members to inquisitors in about four hundred turns as a Catholic. I just don't seem to get very many. (VH, before you ask.)

    And, no I don't know what I'm doing differently from everyone else. It's a mystery.

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    I don't know if we're allowed to post direct links here but if you go to Youtube and search for 'python inquisition' you'll find a full 9min version of the 3 sections combined.

    Oh and on the original point. Knife >>>>> back.

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    Actually you can kill inquisitors with your military, as you can do with all "agent" types - split your army and put a unit in all of the squares near the inquisitor, its a bit tricky to do it without pushing him, and after that move another unit into his square. With no safe land to retreat he will die.
    You can use another unit to push him to a location which is more convenient for surrounding, near water for example.

    If you "run" into him, and you cant do the surrond trick and dont want to cheat/reload, you could split your general from the army, and may be split some more units to block inquisitor's path to general.
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    when the pope gets nasty rome must be destroyed and exterminated!!!!!!!!!!!

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