Dealing with Inquisitors

[Swordfish]

My first post here. I was lurking for about a week, but I finally got the game so I decided to register. This compelled me to make my first post for the following joke...

I generally find that heretic micromanagement is more of a pain than inquisitors. I had a piety 10 inquis. run around Spain for 40 years and he never touched my piety 3 heir in Zaragossa... Seems pretty random.

They're doing their job well then.

Nobody suspects the Spanish Inquisition! (I'm surprised this thread got this far without someone making that joke.)

[Lorenzo_H]

I had a piety 0 general who was found innocent. Every other General inspected has been burnt though.

[Fridericus Rex]

I usually go on a Crusade very early in the game (within 20 turns) and take (by ship) as many generals as possible leaving only one behind.

All generals come back with high loyalty and piety - no inquisitions are possible as long as the live!

[Blademun]

Quillan: I believe I experienced the latter of the two situations you mentioned. All of my lands were around 99% catholic, however, the French whom I conquered(not hard) had always been at odds with the pope. The trio of super inquisitors lingered around for a long time, going after my generals who were protecting the front lines along Bern/Bruges.

I believe they were trully after my 9 Dread king. He was the best king I ever had so naturally they'd want to kill him. I'd move my army up and some enemy armys would just turn around and walk off the field. It was hilarious. Sadly he died of old age(and much carting around to avoid the inquisitors).

From now on, one of the first moves I'm going to make is take Rhodes, then Rome, and then sue for peace by giving the Pope Rhodes. Then all the retarded little Inqusitors he pumps out like the queen alien will be stuck on that little island for the whole game.

Really though, I'd like to permanently mod the Inquisition out of the game...anyone know how?

[BlackAxe3001]

From now on, one of the first moves I'm going to make is take Rhodes, then Rome, and then sue for peace by giving the Pope Rhodes. Then all the retarded little Inqusitors he pumps out like the queen alien will be stuck on that little island for the whole game.

Thats a great idea! I am going to try that here shortly.

[xaldub]

Would be keen to know if you succeed on the modding. I really don't think Inquisitors add anything purposeful to the game either, other than random mayhem. I'm still playing my first campaign ( as France ) and have fallen victim to Inquisitor strikes a few times. Within a 3 turn interval I lost my King and a 9 star general ( aged 34 ) to 2 inquisitors who were actually spawned in neighbouring HRE owned territories. HRE had been excommunicated and were spawning heretics left, right and centre. At the time my relations with the Pope were excellent at 8 points I think.

Oh and whilst I'm on a roll, within that 3 turn spell I also "lost" a 7 loyalty general to a 1 charm English princess ( Princess Bulldog ? ). Took the wind out of my planned assault on HRE provinces.

I love the concept of this game, but the game mechanics are in need of major refinement ( along with bug fixes to troop cohesion, animations etc ). RTW is by far a better game at the moment in my opinion. Pity, as I really do prefer the medieval setting.

[NeutralZone940]

My first post here. I was lurking for about a week, but I finally got the game so I decided to register. This compelled me to make my first post for the following joke...



They're doing their job well then.

Nobody suspects the Spanish Inquisition! (I'm surprised this thread got this far without someone making that joke.)

Er, "expects"? ;)

[Warluster]

Well actually someone has already said that! Swordfish said that at post #15.

[Swordfish]

Well actually someone has already said that! Swordfish said that at post #15.

NeutralZone was quoting me to correct what I said; just didn't wrap quote tags around it. And I think he's right, it is "expects" not "suspects." My Monty Python collection doesn't include that bit yet, so I wasn't able to verify.

Though I'm still surprised the thread went as long as it did without someone making that joke.

Bit of a funny story though: Once when I was playing Medieval 1 )when you could make your own Inquisitors), I actually did have an Inquisitor from Spain in my territory (I was Denmark). That guy was tearing my armys apart too, just about every turn he was in my territory he had killed another general. I ignored him at first, figuring it would just blow over, but after he had pissed me off I went to see what country he was from, and nearly fell out of my seat when I saw it was Spain.

... Once I regained my composure, I promtly invaded them.

[Blademun]

Yeah, I think the Inquisitors are a random generated thing. :/

Oh well, I ended up just playing the moors. While I don't have to deal with Inqusitors, the wars are constant. Catholic Europe apparently didn't appreciate me taking Iberia/france..

I'd really like to see the monty python show that has the spanish inquisition gag in it. I've only seen a couple clips.

[Aaron A Aardvark]

I've lost maybe two family members to inquisitors in about four hundred turns as a Catholic. I just don't seem to get very many. (VH, before you ask.)

And, no I don't know what I'm doing differently from everyone else. It's a mystery.

[Deneldar]

I don't know if we're allowed to post direct links here but if you go to Youtube and search for 'python inquisition' you'll find a full 9min version of the 3 sections combined.

Oh and on the original point. Knife >>>>> back.

[Bakalov]

Actually you can kill inquisitors with your military, as you can do with all "agent" types - split your army and put a unit in all of the squares near the inquisitor, its a bit tricky to do it without pushing him, and after that move another unit into his square. With no safe land to retreat he will die.
You can use another unit to push him to a location which is more convenient for surrounding, near water for example.

If you "run" into him, and you cant do the surrond trick and dont want to cheat/reload, you could split your general from the army, and may be split some more units to block inquisitor's path to general.

[Ciaran]

The worst thing is, I was trying (mark the term "trying") to train up some assassins to handle the Inquisitors (a pain in the back in itself, every time my assassin gains a rank due to a sucessfull mission he loses it immediately by failing the next one . And there are no soft targets like the Assassins in RTW), what did the blasted wretch (maxed out, of course, so no-one can touch him) do? Burn my assassin, that´s what. Along with a whole bunch of random merchants (not one of mine, thanks God, those only fall prey to other merchants), generals, princesses and generally everything that moved around, even the odd priest, if I recall correctly.
How do I get up piety for my family members, so at least they have some chance against those pyromaniacs?

They would be a nice gimmick if one could decently get rid of them, but I can´t even send in my assassins on their meagre 5% chance (statistically, one out of twenty should suceed...) just to give it a try, since a killed assassin would kill my relations with the old man in Rome. Right now they´re a damn game killer for me.

[yezhanquan85]

Ok, here's my 2 cents worth.

1) When the guy with the strange hat appears, your general/agent RUNS. No excuses. If you walk up to him and he burns you, I think you're just asking for it.

2) The more guys these papal agents from hell burns, the more deadly they become. Their retinue of executioner + hunter of heretics trait line will make them living saints in no time.

3) As other fellows have mentioned, you can use the "surround with military units" method to kill him.

4) There's an incorrect component in the traits file which makes your generals spawn with 0 piety. All generals should start with 3 initially. Hope that buys you some protection.

[heroic hungarian]

when the pope gets nasty rome must be destroyed and exterminated!!!!!!!!!!!