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    I find this fascinating -- using an algorithm, this software predicts from samples of your writing whether you are male or female. I can fool it when I deliberately try to do so, but I can't trick it at all when I paste in chunks of text I wrote in letters or posts. Pretty slick. Give it a try!

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    a 396-word passage from melville's Bartleby the Scrivener threw it.



    edit: unless........
    now i'm here, and history is vindicated.

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    I would imagine that the software is "tuned" for modern English. Tossing in 19th-century prose (and Melville borders on the color purple -- the guy used what were considered anachronisms by the standards of his own time) will probably confuse it.

    I think it's more fair to feed it your own writing, and see how it does.
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    Pasted in a small bit of frogbeastegg's MeadHall work. Verdict:

    Words: 137

    (NOTE: The genie works best on texts of more than 500 words.)

    Female Score: 204
    Male Score: 101

    The Gender Genie thinks the author of this passage is: female!
    Good Job!

    But, pasting in my post from the frontroom beer thread, it got:

    Words: 91

    (NOTE: The genie works best on texts of more than 500 words.)

    Female Score: 83
    Male Score: 60

    The Gender Genie thinks the author of this passage is: female!


    In fairness, those pieces weren't long enough, probably.

    Interesting division of Masculine v Feminine words they're using..
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    Default Re: Gender Prediction -- Can You Fool It?

    a 1500 word closed memo i wrote a couple months ago threw it also.





    unless........
    now i'm here, and history is vindicated.

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    Apparently Shakespeare (Hamlet) gets 1838 male points and 2666 female points, and Shakespeare is thereby officially a woman (wasn't there a conspiracy theory saying that Shakespeare's works were really written by a woman? )!
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    Female Score: 647
    Male Score: 817

    The Gender Genie thinks the author of this passage is: male!
    Nifty.

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    That speech I submitted in the Mead Hall a little while ago...

    Female Score: 2154
    Male Score: 2526

    The Gender Genie thinks the author of this passage is: male!
    Reassuring I suppose...

    *edit*

    Just stuck one of Cicero's speeches through the mill... apparently he's female. Not so reassuring, I was supposed to be mimicking his style!
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    A 400 word hardboiled piece I wrote was called female. I would like to understand the logic behind it.
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    Default Re: Gender Prediction -- Can You Fool It?

    Words: 747

    (NOTE: The genie works best on texts of more than 500 words.)

    Female Score: 864
    Male Score: 743
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    My translation of a bit of the Aeneid fooled it totally

    Words: 1197
    (NOTE: The genie works best on texts of more than 500 words.)

    Female Score: 2389
    Male Score: 1216

    The Gender Genie thinks the author of this passage is: female!
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    A report I did for 12th Century Glory got:


    Words: 805
    (NOTE: The genie works best on texts of more than 500 words.)

    Female Score: 1107
    Male Score: 1111

    The Gender Genie thinks the author of this passage is: male!
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    One of my darker short stories, SELB, for short, got:

    Words: 1043
    (NOTE: The genie works best on texts of more than 500 words.)

    Female Score: 1429
    Male Score: 1075


    The Gender Genie thinks the author of this passage is: female!
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    On another short story (humour)

    Words: 689
    (NOTE: The genie works best on texts of more than 500 words.)

    Female Score: 1241
    Male Score: 780

    The Gender Genie thinks the author of this passage is: female!

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    Oh dear.
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    Default Re: Gender Prediction -- Can You Fool It?

    Amusing, but is the entire algorithm the tables on the bottom? Seems overly simplistic to me. Even though it has my writing correct...

    Unless...

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    It appears the first chapter of my story posted in the Mead Hall makes me female.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost
    It appears my the first chapter of my story posted in the Mead Hall makes me female.

    ....... unless.............
    now i'm here, and history is vindicated.

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    Cool! My post about meat was the most masculine text I've found so far!

    Female Score: 359
    Male Score: 712

    The Gender Genie thinks the author of this passage is: male!
    Under construction...

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    This thing thinks I am Female, through and Through!

    Everything I get has about this composition:
    Words: 527

    (NOTE: The genie works best on texts of more than 500 words.)

    Female Score: 709
    Male Score: 634

    The Gender Genie thinks the author of this passage is: female!


    I Most certainly am not female!!




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    Words: 3626

    (NOTE: The genie works best on texts of more than 500 words.)

    Female Score: 2865
    Male Score: 5773
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    So is this a measure of your masculinity?

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    Words: 863

    (NOTE: The genie works best on texts of more than 500 words.)

    Female Score: 815
    Male Score: 1080
    So it got it right. I used some story I wrote here:

    http://z2.invisionfree.com/herdstone...showtopic=8282
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    Stupid.

    I copied from a friend's(female) Myspace blog and it though it was male?!?
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    Its completely foolish. It is just a random ensamble of stereotypical words used by both sexes.
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    Actually no, men are more predisposed to use certain words while women are more likely to use others.
    Linky to the Israeli site/research please?
    While the algorithim to the whole deal is very basic, if there was more variables or something, then it might work.
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    I ask because it's usually something like that which causes outbursts like this, needless to say I dissagree completely.

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    Default Re: Gender Prediction -- Can You Fool It?

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshal Murat
    Linky to the Israeli site/research please?
    I haven't gotten the link to work yet, but this PDF is supposed to be the paper ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshal Murat
    Actually no, men are more predisposed to use certain words while women are more likely to use others.
    Linky to the Israeli site/research please?
    While the algorithim to the whole deal is very basic, if there was more variables or something, then it might work.
    keyword: might
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    Default Re: Gender Prediction -- Can You Fool It?

    A similar genie began floating around blogs a number of years ago. Would say it's far from being absolute nonsense. Would also imagine numerous factors could contribute to development of alternative word choice. [without having looked at the algorithm or paper, neither of which are working for me] If I remember rightly, the previous test focused on use of specific contractions or generalisation, and references to self. Based on individual habits and inevitable variations it's easy to see how we can all become a bit 'confused'.

    {Alright, having actually taken the test, it does admittedly seem even more simplistic than the last. Slightly disappointing in its limitations.}
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