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    Well if the veggies will take away the meat from our tables.I suggest that we eat the veggies.I have heard from reliable sources that with good Chianti they wont taste that bad.
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    I like cake - am I a firetruck?
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    And I like meat cake, a side of vegetables, all slathered in meat gravy. Am I a hockey puck?
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    I am not sure about this but I believe I 've read in a book about nutrition habits of various people around the earth, that it is more efficient calorie wise to eat animals fed on vegetation than us eating that vegetation. Something on the order of 10 times more efficient.

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    What I always find bizarre about evangelical vegetarians is that they don't seem to consider the fact that if everyone gave up eating meat, huge amounts of livestock would no longer be worth keeping and would be slaughtered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big King Sanctaphrax
    What I always find bizarre about evangelical vegetarians is that they don't seem to consider the fact that if everyone gave up eating meat, huge amounts of livestock would no longer be worth keeping and would be slaughtered.
    There is such a thing as a gradual draw-down of stock. Cattle don't have to breed, you could just eat what was left. Not that I really care, but your argument doesn't exactly make sense. You could drawdown the cattle (and other food based livestock) stock by consuming at current rates, while preventing breeding easily enough.

    Given that even evangelical vegetarians probably aren't dumb enough to think the world will all instantly convert at one point of time, I don't see what's bizarre at all...


    As for the thread, I'm a vegetarian and I don't have a clue what you're on about. You want to eat meat, you just keep doing your thing, just don't force it upon me...

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    The growth of the world population is going to make meat less attractive. Just work out the energy lost: food needs to be grown, fed to cattle, cattle dies, we eat meat. A large amount of energy goes into allowing the cattle to grow, while it could have been spent on feeding people. As the population grows and the relative amount of land declines, meat is going to become far more expensive in the coming century; land can be better used for growing crops.

    Voluntary vegetarianism has little to do with this, rather that meat will become too expensive for consumption on a regular basis for a larger amount of people, even in the west.
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    Grind up poor people and use the paste to fertilize a new crop of grain, with which to feed our cattle. Or just feed the paste directly to the cows.

    It's the only way.

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    Yes, yes... I know that it's more energy efficient to eat, well, bacteria or something - all that stuff about 90% energy being lost with each step in the food chain. Actually. We should breed photosynthesising humans, if we want to maximise resoure efficiency. Some people are on the way there anyway...
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    I once owned a little black pig when I was a little kid. I remember you could let it sniff something, then go hide that something in the ground, and the pig would sniff it out and find it.

    Noone can take away my meat! And plus, everyone knows vegetarians are weak.
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    I anticipate a soylant green joke anytime now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Somebody Else
    Grind up poor people and use the paste to fertilize a new crop of grain, with which to feed our cattle. Or just feed the paste directly to the cows.

    It's the only way.
    thats a great idea

    in fact its so great someone thought of it already, In India, when they used pieces of dead livestock and in some cases partially burnt humans from the river ganges which they ground into feedstock and sold back to the UK - hey presto - MAD COW DISEASE

    not a good idea to eat your own kind - its a haven for parasites and disease to never have to leave the host
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yunus Dogus
    thats a great idea

    in fact its so great someone thought of it already, In India, when they used pieces of dead livestock and in some cases partially burnt humans from the river ganges which they ground into feedstock and sold back to the UK - hey presto - MAD COW DISEASE

    not a good idea to eat your own kind - its a haven for parasites and disease to never have to leave the host
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yunus Dogus
    in fact its so great someone thought of it already, In India, when they used pieces of dead livestock and in some cases partially burnt humans from the river ganges which they ground into feedstock and sold back to the UK - hey presto - MAD COW DISEASE
    My understanding is that most studies to date show that BSE (bovine spongiform encephalopathy) originated from the ground up remains of sheep and other animal bone meal that were fed to cattle by European farmers as a cheap fodder additive during the 1980s. Sheep suffer quite widely from a condition known as "scrapy" - a similar neuro-degenerative disease.

    The UK suffered disproportionately because the government there lowered the temperature requirements for treating the bone-meal and therefore more of the casusative protein prions were left intact.

    BSE is a cautionary tale of cheap-skate UK government policies, not an imported problem from India.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goofball
    I like cake - am I a firetruck?
    I hope the same isn't true for pie...

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