EU has new members

[edyzmedieval]

Romania and Bulgaria. Dust off the welcomes, I'm already overfilled with these things. I went in the Revolution Plaza in Bucharest, to enter the New Year with champagne and many people. And also, the high ranking EU officials.

I want to ask our european members, their opinion about the EU.
For me, it doesn't look like something extremely "happy" to cheer about it. I mean, what is it actually? To me, just a more complex economic alliance. Nothing more.

Just wanting to share some opinions on this.

[Patriarch of Constantinople]

Thats two targets for Greece down the tube

[Bar Kochba]

They can still get turkey

[Patriarch of Constantinople]

Hope they don't get into the EU :p

[Bar Kochba]

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=118517

He saying maybe israel should join the EU there not even in Europe

[Patriarch of Constantinople]

Morocco wasn't allowed into the EU because they weren't in Europe, I doubt they would allow Israel in.

[Bar Kochba]

most of turkey isnt in Europe either but they are considering them? they allowed Israel into the European cup although i doubt its the same thing

[Patriarch of Constantinople]

Yes, Only Constantinople.

[Bar Kochba]

dont the greeks want it back?

[Patriarch of Constantinople]

Of course . We really want our empire back .

[Bar Kochba]

Good luck with the empire buliding

[Patriarch of Constantinople]

Yeah.

Turkey
Bulgaria
All the Balkans
Italy
Egypt
Coast of the Middle East

[Bar Kochba]

wow big empire


wasnt it roman...

[Patriarch of Constantinople]

Yes, it was the Roman Empire. It's only called the Byzantine Empire by historians who don't like the fact that it was the succesor of Rome.

[Kralizec]

It has its flaws, but generally speaking it's underapreciated.

[Papewaio]

I've heard it called the Eastern Roman Empire...

As for the EU it is about money and the more people the larger consumer base the more economic currency you can wield as a group. From this evolves other things like political currency as having such a large consumer base will make other nations/economic entities salivate at the idea of entry into such a large market. Also as less money has to be spent on defending from each other more can be spent on socio-economic projects from manufacturing to football.

[Bar Kochba]

What does the EU do besides make taxes?

[Pannonian]

Yes, it was the Roman Empire. It's only called the Byzantine Empire by historians who don't like the fact that it was the succesor of Rome.

People have a proiblem calling it the Roman empire because Rome itself was in other hands by that time. The Byzantine Empire was as Roman as the current American empire is British. Actually, rather less so, since the Americans at least speak English, while the Byzantines spoke Greek.

I think I'll write to my MP tomorrow, applying to become the new governor of the American colonies, citing the Byzantine-Roman link as a precedent.

[Bar Kochba]

The people considerd themsleves romans and Heirs. i dont think americans considers themselevs brits?

[Patriarch of Constantinople]

People have a proiblem calling it the Roman empire because Rome itself was in other hands by that time. The Byzantine Empire was as Roman as the current American empire is British. Actually, rather less so, since the Americans at least speak English, while the Byzantines spoke Greek.

I think I'll write to my MP tomorrow, applying to become the new governor of the American colonies, citing the Byzantine-Roman link as a precedent.

Oh come on. So if they speak Greek, they aren't the Roman Empire? Even though they spoke Latin, followed Roman customs and such? Really.

[Patriarch of Constantinople]

Constantine, the founder of Constantinople, was Roman. He put the capital of the Roman Empire at Constantinople, in Greece. So, since the city was situated in Greece, the Greek language was learned so they could communicate.

[Bar Kochba]

isnt Constatinople at the time actully in thrace?

[Patriarch of Constantinople]

isnt Constatinople at the time actully in thrace?

Yes which was Greek.

[Patriarch of Constantinople]

And really, don't get me on a nationalistic mode.

[Bar Kochba]

isnt there a problem of turkey having a population like 5 times your size

[Patriarch of Constantinople]

That's only because of our slow expansion. Turkey had huge territories while Greece was still gaining their independance.

[Bar Kochba]

so even if Greece tried to invade they would have there arses handed to them?

[Patriarch of Constantinople]

It really depends.

[Bar Kochba]

On what? Maybe you can get the Kurds to back you up a bit make it a 2 front war....

[Patriarch of Constantinople]

And besides, our nations is smaller than Turkey.

Greek Consitution says that all citizens capable of bearing arms must defend Greece.