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    I am Just wondering what would people like to see in the Official Expansion Pack when it is releases? I myself and Hoping for a Expansion where the game starts off at about 1600 and North and South America or more or les all of it is on the Map unlike the tiny amount of land in Medieval 2. And Of course more natives Like the AztecsI know they are in medieval 2 but there capital city is no where where it was in real life) and the Incas and the Native American Indians of the USA. Now that would be a really Fun Game. What are your thoughs on he Subject? I hope I have posted tis topic in the Right Place

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    Hi!

    The game just should continue, where vanilla MTW2 ends. Yeah and NA indians, aztecs, maya, incas would be cool also, but of ocurse with a much larger map.
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    I'm not sure what they can do really, maybe a Dark Ages era of Europe expansion instead of Viking Invasion's Britain.

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    Might as well toss in India, Africa and the East Indies as well, plus more space eastwards for the Russians to expand.

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    How about "Arab/Muslim invasion"? It certainly fits CA's habit of having the word "invasion" in every expansion.
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    I would like something completely different: A Lord of the Rings version!
    Imagine Middle Earth as the campaign map with orcs, dwarves, elves etc. as the factions... Just think about the battle of Minas Tirith from the movies.

    I imagine a lot of history fanatics would disagree with this wish, though...

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    Personally, I'd like two: one covering the period where the vanilla game leaves off (gunpowder heyday) and one covering the gap between the fall of the western Roman empire and the campaign start.
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    I'd like to see Medieval Total War 2: Wars of Faith (or, if you must, 'the protestant invasion' ;-) ).

    This could cover the period from 1453 (fall of Constantinople) to 1648 (Munster peace agreement) so 30-years war, 80-years war etcetera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan.o6
    I'm not sure what they can do really, maybe a Dark Ages era of Europe expansion instead of Viking Invasion's Britain.
    It would be really good and cover the period between BI and M2TW. I'd like to see the Arabs, Bulgars, Vikings, The Carolingian Empire and the other Successor states formed from the WRE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vicarious
    I would like something completely different: A Lord of the Rings version!
    Imagine Middle Earth as the campaign map with orcs, dwarves, elves etc. as the factions... Just think about the battle of Minas Tirith from the movies.

    I imagine a lot of history fanatics would disagree with this wish, though...
    *cough*Battle for middle earth*cough* Also EA holds all the rights to make LOTR games. And I doubt that Sega could get those rights from EA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randarkmaan
    How about "Arab/Muslim invasion"? It certainly fits CA's habit of having the word "invasion" in every expansion.
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    Yep, it's very systematic. Since Mongol and Timurid invasions are already covered as well as the Reconquista, Protestant invasion seems to be the only one left. Now introducing Martin Luther! With Protestant Fanatics! Yay!

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    I don't mind what it is, though I certainly tend towards an expansion which involves a continent other than Europe to exploit! (America?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daevyll
    I'd like to see Medieval Total War 2: Wars of Faith (or, if you must, 'the protestant invasion' ;-) ).

    This could cover the period from 1453 (fall of Constantinople) to 1648 (Munster peace agreement) so 30-years war, 80-years war etcetera.

    I would be happy with that. It would really give another depth level to the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by diablodelmar
    I don't mind what it is, though I certainly tend towards an expansion which involves a continent other than Europe to exploit! (America?)
    Exactly. Gentelmen Picture a expansion pack with North and South America. Just Picture it. And Of course where it does not tke as long to get there as it does in med 2. Immagine Sailing over and Blowing the Hell out of the Natives. I know you get to do a bi of this is med 2 but hardly anything worth talking about. A Epic Exspansion that lets you Colonise the New Wolrd. Maybe Parts of Africa as well. Now You all have to admit that Would be Impressive. I certaintly think so

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    Arab Invasion gets my vote. A little sensitive though, so I'm thinking it's unlikely.
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    North American Invasion would be nice with more gunpowder units. I do like the Lutheran Invasion idea too. What we will probably get is an expanded version of MTW/VI but covering the Franks. Some Charles Martel action.

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    MTW: Charles The Great Expansion Set (Charlemange)?
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    Yeah, I can't see "Muslim Invasion" or anything similar being very practical, although I'd play it myself. Too much cultural/political baggage.

    I'd like to see a "Total War: Conquest of the Caribbean" beginning with Spain established in the 'Crib and starting to decline in power, with the other European seafaring factions horning in on the action. It could almost mirror the RTW/BI expansion in that respect, with Spain taking the part of the Holy Roman Empire.

    It has two main drawbacks though: first, it would suffer somewhat from a lack of tactical 3D sea battles, since I doubt we'd get a whole new tactical battle engine just for an expansion. And second, if it tracks history then there would only be a few different factions to play.... the Spanish, Portuguese, British, French, and Dutch... just the major seafaring nations of Europe. It wouldn't be the large map, or large numbers of factions we had in RTW/BI. And by the time the other nations arrived after Spain, the natives were pretty well suppressed, or dead of disease. At least you'd have some colorful "rebels" in the historical pirates of the time. Pirate factions would have coastal cities under their influence that you'd have to capture. I think this expansion idea might sell just by trading on the current popular interest in the pirate theme, and still be a strategically interesting mini-game.
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    I doubt the expansion will deal with the conquest of the americas, since there's barely any gunpowder infantry in the game, and some factions don't even have any. Adding a whole new era of units to the game would be too big for an expansion.

    Keeping that in mind, I have no idea where they could go. Most major events after the end of the current game would deal with gunpowder warfare. They could possibly do the Hundred Years' War, or some kind of islamic invasion from the east, but those seem quite limited. Not much else stands out.

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    The expansion should start where this game finish, around 1520. must include the conquest of America, soem new factions in America. the expansion should end about 1700 or near of French Revolution that was the most important political change in the world by that time.
    I wolud like to see naval battle, and improvements on naval pirates, so you can create some pirate ships without your country flags and attack other factions without entering in a war because they don't know who belongs those ships.
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    I think we can have

    Swiss , indipependance + borgognone wars

    Italian warfare , try to unificate italy ( as firenze , milan , venetia , two sicilies , Genoa , Papal states , Siena etc etc and avoid strangers invasions )

    Crusades , a more detailed holy land map and mechanics of play for that theatre .

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    Perhaps a foray into Asia is asking too much?

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    I would prefer the "Protestant Invasion" for an expansion pack. Or, as the person above mentioned, some kind of foray into asia.

    Well, deep down, I'd like a remake of the original Shogun Total war with this new engine...

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    GAH!

    Vanya sez...

    "Invasion of Paradise"
    Features: Americas, Indians, Natives, Oh Vanya! Youz could be sitting pretty sipping tea in Tipperary, when all of a sudden, a 400,000-strong Inca army appears on the shores of England and sends the king running for succor to France of all places, which is in turn suffering from pestilence brought over from dead Mayan poets and captured Sioux Raven Warriors.

    "The Intellectual Invasion" -- things like enlightenment, rennaissance, etc.
    New units like Flying Da Vinci Legionaires, Medici Macemen, and French Head-choppers would add some color to the stale rosters of the years before, while the sultry words of wisdom from the likes of Voltaire and Deepak Chopra would inspire commoners to form violent pogroms as well as artistic marvels that could advance the cause of their overlord.

    Note that "The Intellectual Invasion" could just as well be re-tooled to "The Invasion of Heaven", since science was deemed an affront on all things holy at the time.

    Or...

    They could one-up the ideas of past...

    Create one game. "World: Total War". All previous games are melded into one. The game map is that of the entire world. The factions of Japan would be available, as would those of Rome, the medieval kingdoms, those in the Americas, etc.

    To "even things out", all playable start at the same time, with some non-human-playables perhaps scripted to appear at certain times. Youz could then lead the Scipii into battle in the 1600s, fielding an army made up of Roman Pavise Musketeers, backed by culverins and bovine chukkas, supported by Imperial Knights of the Vestal Order, and backed up by thousands of Catholic Zealot Infantry and lead them on a Papal-backed crusade to Dewa province in northern Japan, where they would battle Samurai Dancing Pikemen, Sumo Heavy Infantry and Buddhist Warrior Arquebusiers.

    The mere thought of that brings a tear to Vanya's eyes--wherever they might be.

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    I haven't played a whole lot of this game yet, haven't gotten to the New World.

    But I'd like to see perhaps more of the Protestant Reformation and it's effects. Loss of Papal power in some places, a few more units and diplomatic options like actually being able to threaten other factions about their presence on your land? (dosen't the player get into trouble if they send troops into neutral lands?
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    An Invasion of the Americas doesnt interest me personally so I wouldnt buy it. I think CA is running out of timelines as far as pregunnery goes although 450AD to 1000AD hasnt been properly done yet.

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    Sea Battles. 'Nuf said.
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    Sea Battles. 'Nuf said.
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    Improved AI, moddability and sea battles would be nice for me. Fixed autoresolve too plz.
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    Would be nice if the original game worked ist! Before any talk of an expansion...lol

    On a serious note I have no idea what they will do..probably not a viking one sadly..this is the problem with snazzing up older games...you have to re-tread the same road.

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