One bad ass seleucid army!

[Lord Comnenus]

Half will be compose of War or Armoured Elephants
the rest will be cataphracts and marbe 2 or 3 onagers
any counter-measures to stop this horde cause in my campaign this army has not suffered a defeat nor had casualty exceeding 10 guys..........

[Roman_Man#3]

I don't really understand what you mean, but some counter measures are what i will list. Use archers with fire ability to scare elephants, spearmen to attack catties, and some light fast cav to outflank and hit the onagers.

[antisocialmunky]

A few Incendary Pig(s) would get rid of the elephants really easily.

[Lord Comnenus]

A few cats will impale those asswholes :)

[x-dANGEr]

10 Phalanx + 5 Onagers + another 5 Phalanx. Do0oh!

[HumphreysCraig00]

IIRC I actually faced something rather similar in multiplayer and won.

The one in multi player IIRC didnt have any onagers just half ele half cata

I made a square (2 ranks deep at front) from 15 Spartan hoplites and placed 3units of (cretin i think) archers and 2 onagers in there.

The onagers didnt really do anything notable if memory serves but the archers routed the eles (after the other player killed his cataphract geberal by charging my front with him) and the cataphracts destroyed themselves.

Of course this was a while ago and I may be remembering wrongly.

[Lord Comnenus]

ok so they suck in against phalanx armies but a little micromangement can turn the tide

[x-dANGEr]

IIRC I actually faced something rather similar in multiplayer and won.

The one in multi player IIRC didnt have any onagers just half ele half cata

I made a square (2 ranks deep at front) from 15 Spartan hoplites and placed 3units of (cretin i think) archers and 2 onagers in there.

The onagers didnt really do anything notable if memory serves but the archers routed the eles (after the other player killed his cataphract geberal by charging my front with him) and the cataphracts destroyed themselves.

Of course this was a while ago and I may be remembering wrongly.

Well.. Onager's effectivness is lost when they are too close. But then, archer's complete the job. So I guess you'd need a couple of Archers hmm!

(Though, in a MP game, such an army won't stand a chance. Why? If you can get so much eles and Cataphracts, you can get some heavily upgraded units - preferably Legions - that will simply kill/rout the eles with their Javs)

[Goalie]

I can see where you would have some success with that army against eastern factions like parthia and armenia and such when you are talking about campaign. However I think you would get into some trouble with Egypt with there good missle units, chariots, and pikemen. Also Macedon would be effective against it with their very good pikemen and archers.

And yes if you were playing multiplayer it would not be very effective for the reasons that x danger mentioned with legions. It would also not be that effective against a decent greek army with spartans and such, or carthage with sacred band inf and cav and some eles to go head on with, or even germia if you made good use of spear warbands and of course berzerkers.

[Lord Comnenus]

Ufortunately on the campaign, greeks are gone, macedons are gone, brutii is gone, carthage, egypt, parthia, armenia, pontus, whats left are julii, scipii, germania, thracia, dacia, scythians, iberians, gauls(i dunnoh) and brittania, no need for fear of spears here! hahahaha

[HumphreysCraig00]

Half will be compose of War or Armoured Elephants
the rest will be cataphracts and marbe 2 or 3 onagers
any counter-measures to stop this horde cause in my campaign this army has not suffered a defeat nor had casualty exceeding 10 guys..........

I wonder how 20 Yubtseb elephants would fare against this army...

[antisocialmunky]

Ever watch Return of the King? It would be like that except with elephants on all sides.

[Lord Comnenus]

ufortunately them eles wont be flying around