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    Occasionally, when I gifted the Pope some land that I didn't want, my reputation with him would go up. Recently, when I gave him some land, my reputation went to "Abysmal" and I had to give him money to return my reputation to "Perfect." So I give him land then have to give him money. The Pope thanks me but it still shows up "Abysmal." It is getting too expensive give away land to create a buffer around my territories.

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    It's because you still have units around there. Move those units away from the region before giving the province and you won't have any problems.

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    Yep, move all units off the territory before gifting or it shall be seen as a transgression. Either that or your Papal happy meter overflowed and it wrapped around.

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    In my current Danish campaign I had this happen to me. I gave Reims to the Pope, no problem. I gave Paris to him, no problem. I tried to give Tolouse(sp?) to him and he accepted it but sent my rating way down. Now I had saved before doing this(I save alot) and was suprised it happened because for me it was the first time it happened. So I reloaded again and same thing. I redid this a few times. Reloading and trying different things. Gifted it with troops in and out of the city and it made no difference. He didnt like it.

    Now the thing is in the past I always had troops in the region and most of the time had troops in the town/castle at the time of the gift so I know he'll accept even if there are troops in the city or even just outside next to the city.

    I just assumed it was a bug/glitch of some sort and went about my game. After doing the deal I just gifted him some cash to pull my rating back up so no biggie for me. So the theory that the troops have to be out of the territory isnt true or at least not true all the time. I guess its just dependent on the Pope's mood at the time? a.k.a. Just one of those coding anomalies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by katank
    Either that or your Papal happy meter overflowed and it wrapped around.
    I had military access with the Papal States so it shouldn't matter if my troops were there or not right? The wrap around theory makes sense if it is true but then it sux!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chosun
    I had military access with the Papal States so it shouldn't matter if my troops were there or not right? The wrap around theory makes sense if it is true but then it sux!
    Not sure, but try moving them out. A lot of people had this issue and the troops were the problem.

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    Are you sure you did it as a gift and not part of a negotiation? Because factions can get suspicious if you start trying to hawk them land

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chosun
    Occasionally, when I gifted the Pope some land that I didn't want, my reputation with him would go up. Recently, when I gave him some land, my reputation went to "Abysmal" and I had to give him money to return my reputation to "Perfect." So I give him land then have to give him money. The Pope thanks me but it still shows up "Abysmal." It is getting too expensive give away land to create a buffer around my territories.
    I've had that happen to me too. I think what happens is you get so much rep with the Pope you roll the Popeodometer over to zero. It seems like it is real easy to get back up to perfect so don't worry about it to much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mega Dux Bob
    ...Gentlemen, what we need is a Pope who goes to "11"
    Guess we'll just have to take a trip to the nearest pope dealer then ;p
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Frost
    Guess we'll just have to take a trip to the nearest pope dealer then ;p
    Yeah, it's early in '07, so that means the '08 Pope models should be in the showrooms anytime now, right? They just come out earlier and earlier every year...

    If we're really lucky we can snag a model with one of those improved Cath-o-litic converters, and a hat with some badass flames, or maybe a racing stripe. Perhaps even a custom beeper for when His Holiness backs up?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Foz
    Yeah, it's early in '07, so that means the '08 Pope models should be in the showrooms anytime now, right? They just come out earlier and earlier every year...

    If we're really lucky we can snag a model with one of those improved Cath-o-litic converters, and a hat with some badass flames, or maybe a racing stripe. Perhaps even a custom beeper for when His Holiness backs up?
    Yeah they give us the bells and whistles, but I bet the dogmatic transmission will still react as sluggish as always...

    I just realized... with a decent bit of cash and a pope with the right "personality", shouldn't catholic factions be able to buy indulgences to go to war?
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    Maybe the pope just doesn't like a kiss-ass

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    I think the actions of his silliness is defined by his traits. Warmongers will automatically expand and hold cities much better that pacifists.

    As for the gifts making him angry, try to see your reputation before you gift to him. If you have mixed, dubious, or even despicable then the other factions will only see your gift as a way to cheat them of some money, etc, etc.
    Last edited by scrapcode; 03-31-2012 at 13:28.

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