Whose values are they anyway?

[BDC]

Britain has always been about taking bits of other cultures.

Plus there's a lot of confusion of religion and culture going on at the moment. It's unfortunate, although it does give some groups a useful excuse to carry on medieaval and archaic traditions. Which maintain the status quo... Not that I'm that horribly cynical or anything.

[Kommodus]

I don't think anyone really believes integration is a one-way street. When two cultures merge, they both exert some degree of influence on each other. Obviously, a minority group of immigrants will have to adapt more to their host country than vice versa.

Integration isn't all its cracked up to be. Think about where we'd be if the Chinese, Italians, Germans, Irish, and countless others had left their food back in their homelands...no carry out, Pizza, bratwurst. Where would society be?

That's exactly what I'm talking about. When you immigrate to a new society, proper ettiquette is to bring the positive contributions from your parent culture, while abandoning the harmful components of it. It's reasonable to expect Muslims to leave behind the forced marriages, revenge killing, sexism, etc. from their parent cultures and accept western values such as personal responsibility, liberty, equality, peace, and forgiveness.

Regarding the values espoused by the article's writer, they are broken IMO. It's neurotic to view guilt, shame, and fear as good things (with the obvious exception of healthy fear). Maybe that's why the integration of Muslims into western society looks a bit one-way - it's hard for us westerners to find much in Muslim culture worth emulating. (We have already happily adopted their cuisine.)