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    Default Hardcoded limits

    Well I thought I'd start such a thread again since I did a bit of research on building trees.

    Buildings

    - Maximum number of buildings per tree is 9
    - Maximum number of building trees is 128. The next four buildings will somehow be wrapped onto the first four buildings already built in the settlement. Pretty weird stuff. More than 132 gave me a crash on campaign load notifying me of an unspecified error.


    Maps

    - Maximum number of map regions is 199 (plus 1 sea regions)
    - Maximum size for descr_regions.tga is 510x510

    Cultures

    - Maximum Cultures is 7, adding another causes an unspecified error
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    Map Regions
    I Believe limit is 198 plus 1 sea region (or 196 +3 sea regions if you leave seas as they are in the Vanilla). I set up a map with the 198 +1 and got immediate CTD adding a 199th region

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    Default Re: Hardcoded limits

    So sea regions count towards the limit? How can you change that so that they only count as one region? Use the same color?

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    Default Re: Hardcoded limits

    Or could you leave the sea off completely as a region? Does this stop you from being able to move there?

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    OK so far I can confirm 198 provinces with 2 sea colours and this was OK but adding a third sea area (i.e as another lake caused the crash) so sea regions do count into the total.

    OK retried adding a 199th region and got a straight CTD. Took out all the sea regions and adjusted the heights so no sea and got a CTD so as far as I can tell the limits are 198 true provinces and + 2 colours can be used for seas.
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    Default Re: Hardcoded limits

    Quote Originally Posted by alpaca
    Maximum number of map regions is 198 (plus 2 sea regions)
    I don't know exactly what a sea region is, but my map has 199 regions. I have not tried to add #200 because I heard there was a 199 limit...plus I've been busy with making new factions...
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    Default Re: Hardcoded limits

    Lord Condormanius
    By sea regions I meant an area of sea that shows on the map as sea.

    All my tests only ever showed 198 regions then a CTD. Can you post your descr_regions.txt file and a screen shot or your map_regions.tga

    I'm curious how you did it - or what I did wrong.

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    Default Re: Hardcoded limits

    I really don't know what I did, or how I did it. I just kept adding regions. I'll get some screeen shots up for you shortly.

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    Default Re: Hardcoded limits

    Ok. Here is the descr_regions.txt. You'll notice that I brought the farm levels down. This is an effort to control income and population for my mod.

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    ;
    ; regions list
    ;

    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    North_America
    Miccosukee
    aztecs
    Native_Rebels
    212 198 206
    tobacco, coal, america, no_pirates, no_brigands
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 100 heretic 0 }
    Inverness_Province
    Inverness
    scotland
    English_Rebels
    20 25 225
    atlantic, explorers_guild
    5
    1
    religions { catholic 90 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 5 heretic 5 }
    Aberdeen_Province
    Aberdeen
    scotland
    English_Rebels
    36 193 24
    atlantic, explorers_guild
    5
    1
    religions { catholic 90 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 5 heretic 5 }
    Dumfries_Province
    Dumfries
    scotland
    English_Rebels
    38 163 38
    atlantic, explorers_guild
    5
    1
    religions { catholic 90 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 5 heretic 5 }
    Oslo_Province
    Oslo
    denmark
    Norse_Rebels
    255 180 190
    fish, furs, timber, iron, amber, atlantic, explorers_guild
    5
    1.25
    religions { catholic 80 orthodox 3 islam 0 pagan 15 heretic 2 }
    Stockholm_Province
    Stockholm
    denmark
    Norse_Rebels
    252 245 42
    silver, furs, timber, iron, slaves, amber
    5
    1.25
    religions { catholic 75 orthodox 8 islam 0 pagan 15 heretic 2 }
    Uppsala_Province
    Uppsala
    denmark
    Norse_Rebels
    96 171 90
    silver, furs, timber, iron, slaves, amber
    5
    1.25
    religions { catholic 75 orthodox 8 islam 0 pagan 15 heretic 2 }
    Helsinki_Province
    Helsinki
    russia
    Norse_Rebels
    66 47 85
    fish, furs, timber, dyes
    5
    0.75
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 25 islam 0 pagan 75 heretic 0 }
    Novgorod_Province
    Novgorod
    russia
    Rus_Rebels
    241 211 25
    furs, timber, amber
    5
    1.25
    religions { catholic 2 orthodox 74 islam 2 pagan 20 heretic 2 }
    Moscow_Province
    Moscow
    russia
    Rus_Rebels
    58 89 177
    furs, timber
    5
    1
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 70 islam 6 pagan 24 heretic 0 }
    Belo-Ozero_Province
    Belo-Ozero
    russia
    Rus_Rebels
    30 221 80
    furs, timber
    5
    1
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 70 islam 6 pagan 24 heretic 0 }
    Volga-Bulgar_Province
    Bulgar
    russia
    Steppe_Rebels
    58 177 75
    furs, timber
    5
    1.25
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 10 islam 85 pagan 4 heretic 1 }
    Viatka_Province
    Viatka
    russia
    Steppe_Rebels
    248 246 42
    furs, timber
    5
    1.25
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 10 islam 85 pagan 4 heretic 1 }
    Riga_Province
    Riga
    russia
    Livonian_Rebels
    58 177 95
    amber, crusade
    5
    1.25
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 10 islam 0 pagan 85 heretic 5 }
    Arhus_Province
    Arhus
    denmark
    Norse_Rebels
    232 41 55
    fish, amber, atlantic, explorers_guild
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 82 orthodox 5 islam 0 pagan 10 heretic 3 }
    Edinburgh_Province
    Edinburgh
    scotland
    Scots_Rebels
    220 225 255
    dyes, atlantic, explorers_guild
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 90 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 5 heretic 5 }
    Smolensk_Province
    Smolensk
    russia
    Rus_Rebels
    177 110 83
    horde_target
    5
    1
    religions { catholic 2 orthodox 74 islam 2 pagan 20 heretic 2 }
    Dublin_Province
    Dublin
    scotland
    Irish_Rebels
    10 232 10
    silver, atlantic, explorers_guild
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 96 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 2 heretic 2 }
    Wexford_Province
    Wexford
    scotland
    Irish_Rebels
    5 110 5
    silver, atlantic, explorers_guild
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 96 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 2 heretic 2 }
    Cork_Province
    Cork
    scotland
    Irish_Rebels
    188 23 23
    silver, atlantic, explorers_guild
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 96 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 2 heretic 2 }
    Limerick_Province
    Limerick
    scotland
    Irish_Rebels
    25 85 160
    silver, atlantic, explorers_guild
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 96 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 2 heretic 2 }
    Donegal_Province
    Donegal
    scotland
    Irish_Rebels
    209 171 39
    silver, atlantic, explorers_guild
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 96 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 2 heretic 2 }
    Vilnius_Province
    Vilnius
    russia
    Livonian_Rebels
    131 33 125
    amber, atlantic, crusade
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 4 orthodox 20 islam 0 pagan 75 heretic 1 }
    York_Province
    York
    england
    English_Rebels
    230 30 35
    iron, coal, wool, atlantic, explorers_guild, woodsmens_guild
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 90 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 5 heretic 5 }
    Caribbean_Isles
    Caribbean
    england
    Native_Rebels
    145 198 206
    america, no_pirates, no_brigands
    4
    2
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 100 heretic 0 }
    Ryazan_Province
    Ryazan
    russia
    Rus_Rebels
    177 58 83
    timber
    5
    1
    religions { catholic 2 orthodox 74 islam 2 pagan 20 heretic 2 }
    Caernarvon_Province
    Caernarvon
    england
    Welsh_Rebels
    41 232 63
    coal, wool, atlantic, explorers_guild
    0
    1
    religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 12 heretic 3 }
    Thorn_Province
    Thorn
    poland
    Polish_Rebels
    41 41 203
    furs, timber
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 20 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 75 heretic 5 }
    Nottingham_Province
    Nottingham
    denmark
    English_Rebels
    232 41 198
    dyes, wool, atlantic, explorers_guild, woodsmens_guild
    5
    1.25
    religions { catholic 90 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 5 heretic 5 }
    Stettin_Province
    Stettin
    poland
    German_Rebels
    203 41 232
    teutonic_knights_chapter_house
    5
    1.25
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 10 islam 0 pagan 85 heretic 5 }
    Hamburg_Province
    Hamburg
    hre
    German_Rebels
    232 198 41
    silver, atlantic, explorers_guild, teutonic_knights_chapter_house
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 75 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 20 heretic 5 }
    Tlaxcala_Province
    Tlaxcala
    aztecs
    Mexican_Rebels
    95 185 236
    gold, dyes, tobacco, america, no_pirates, no_brigands
    5
    2
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 100 heretic 0 }
    Sarkel_Province
    Sarkel
    russia
    Steppe_Rebels
    177 170 58
    slaves
    5
    1
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 33 islam 5 pagan 60 heretic 2 }
    Azov_Province
    Azov
    russia
    Steppe_Rebels
    216 30 205
    slaves
    5
    1
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 33 islam 5 pagan 60 heretic 2 }
    Tmutarakan_Province
    Tmutarakan
    russia
    Steppe_Rebels
    43 213 30
    slaves
    5
    1
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 33 islam 5 pagan 60 heretic 2 }
    Atil_Province
    Atil
    russia
    Steppe_Rebels
    29 39 179
    slaves
    5
    1
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 33 islam 5 pagan 60 heretic 2 }
    Samandar_Province
    Samandar
    russia
    Steppe_Rebels
    16 124 14
    slaves
    5
    1
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 33 islam 5 pagan 60 heretic 2 }
    Antwerp_Province
    Antwerp
    france
    Flemish_Rebels
    41 162 232
    textiles, dyes, atlantic, explorers_guild
    5
    2
    religions { catholic 80 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 8 heretic 12 }
    Magdeburg_Province
    Magdeburg
    hre
    German_Rebels
    64 41 52
    timber, teutonic_knights_chapter_house
    5
    1.25
    religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 12 heretic 3 }
    Halych_Province
    Halych
    poland
    Polish_Rebels
    78 232 51
    amber
    5
    1
    religions { catholic 75 orthodox 6 islam 0 pagan 17 heretic 2 }
    Peremyshl_Province
    Peremyshl
    poland
    Polish_Rebels
    34 136 195
    amber
    5
    1
    religions { catholic 75 orthodox 6 islam 0 pagan 17 heretic 2 }
    Cracow_Province
    Cracow
    poland
    Polish_Rebels
    177 78 58
    silver, sulfur, amber
    5
    1
    religions { catholic 85 orthodox 3 islam 0 pagan 10 heretic 2 }
    London_Province
    London
    england
    English_Rebels
    232 41 46
    dyes, tin, wool, atlantic, explorers_guild, woodsmens_guild
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 13 heretic 2 }
    Norwich_Province
    Norwich
    england
    English_Rebels
    18 39 166
    dyes, tin, wool, atlantic, explorers_guild, woodsmens_guild
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 13 heretic 2 }
    Bristol_Province
    Bristol
    england
    English_Rebels
    42 42 230
    dyes, tin, wool, atlantic, explorers_guild, woodsmens_guild
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 13 heretic 2 }
    Chester_Province
    Chester
    england
    English_Rebels
    15 82 235
    dyes, tin, wool, atlantic, explorers_guild, woodsmens_guild
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 13 heretic 2 }
    Breslau_Province
    Breslau
    poland
    German_Rebels
    141 160 233
    timber
    5
    1.25
    religions { catholic 90 orthodox 2 islam 0 pagan 6 heretic 2 }
    Kiev_Province
    Kiev
    russia
    Rus_Rebels
    33 131 116
    slaves, sulfur, horde_target
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 2 orthodox 74 islam 2 pagan 20 heretic 2 }
    Tzernigov_Province
    Tzernigov
    russia
    Rus_Rebels
    164 22 223
    slaves, sulfur, horde_target
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 2 orthodox 74 islam 2 pagan 20 heretic 2 }
    Kozelsk_Province
    Kozelsk
    russia
    Rus_Rebels
    223 22 22
    slaves, sulfur, horde_target
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 2 orthodox 74 islam 2 pagan 20 heretic 2 }
    Turov_Province
    Turov
    russia
    Rus_Rebels
    12 19 176
    slaves, sulfur, horde_target
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 2 orthodox 74 islam 2 pagan 20 heretic 2 }
    Minsk_Province
    Minsk
    russia
    Rus_Rebels
    39 79 49
    slaves, sulfur, horde_target
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 2 orthodox 74 islam 2 pagan 20 heretic 2 }
    Bruges_Province
    Bruges
    england
    Flemish_Rebels
    232 90 41
    textiles, dyes
    5
    1.75
    religions { catholic 80 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 8 heretic 12 }
    Frankfurt_Province
    Frankfurt
    hre
    German_Rebels
    63 232 41
    coal, teutonic_knights_chapter_house
    5
    1.25
    religions { catholic 80 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 5 heretic 15 }
    Metz_Province
    Metz
    hre
    Burgundian_Rebels
    72 41 232
    timber, iron
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 75 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 5 heretic 20 }
    Cholula_Province
    Cholula
    aztecs
    Mexican_Rebels
    80 170 221
    gold, silver, chocolate, tobacco, america, no_pirates, no_brigands
    5
    2.25
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 100 heretic 0 }
    Caen_Province
    Caen
    france
    French_Rebels
    170 170 11
    timber, dyes, atlantic, explorers_guild, woodsmens_guild
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 13 heretic 2 }
    Prague_Province
    Prague
    hre
    Bohemian_Rebels
    58 150 177
    timber, tin, coal
    5
    1.25
    religions { catholic 90 orthodox 2 islam 0 pagan 6 heretic 2 }
    Rheims_Province
    Rheims
    france
    French_Rebels
    31 75 37
    iron, coal
    5
    1.75
    religions { catholic 80 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 10 heretic 10 }
    Rennes_Province
    Rennes
    france
    French_Rebels
    232 41 135
    wine, atlantic, explorers_guild
    5
    1.75
    religions { catholic 90 orthodox 2 islam 0 pagan 6 heretic 2 }
    Nuremburg_Province
    Nuremburg
    hre
    German_Rebels
    230 41 232
    timber, iron, wine, tin, atlantic, teutonic_knights_chapter_house
    5
    1
    religions { catholic 90 orthodox 2 islam 0 pagan 6 heretic 2 }
    Paris_Province
    Paris
    france
    French_Rebels
    203 202 201
    timber, iron, wine
    5
    1.75
    religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 10 heretic 5 }
    Hohenstauffen_Province
    Hohenstauffen
    hre
    German_Rebels
    253 180 10
    wine, teutonic_knights_chapter_house
    5
    1.25
    religions { catholic 90 orthodox 2 islam 0 pagan 6 heretic 2 }
    Iasi_Province
    Iasi
    hungary
    Wallachian_Rebels
    131 33 38
    timber, iron, wine
    5
    1.25
    religions { catholic 5 orthodox 15 islam 0 pagan 75 heretic 5 }
    Tenochtitlan_Province
    Tenochtitlan
    aztecs
    Mexican_Rebels
    65 155 206
    gold, silver, chocolate, dyes, tobacco, america, no_pirates, no_brigands
    5
    2.50
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 100 heretic 0 }
    Buda_Province
    Buda
    hungary
    Magyar_Rebels
    33 100 131
    timber, iron, wine
    5
    1.75
    religions { catholic 90 orthodox 2 islam 0 pagan 6 heretic 2 }
    Pest_Province
    Pest
    hungary
    Magyar_Rebels
    55 112 29
    timber, iron, wine
    5
    1.75
    religions { catholic 90 orthodox 2 islam 0 pagan 6 heretic 2 }
    Angers_Province
    Angers
    france
    French_Rebels
    173 172 171
    timber, iron, wine
    5
    1.75
    religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 10 heretic 5 }
    Bran_Province
    Bran
    hungary
    Wallachian_Rebels
    72 177 58
    timber, iron, wine
    5
    1.5
    religions { catholic 46 orthodox 2 islam 0 pagan 50 heretic 2 }
    Caffa_Province
    Caffa
    russia
    Steppe_Rebels
    17 74 202
    slaves, sulfur
    5
    2
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 33 islam 5 pagan 60 heretic 2 }
    Cherson_Province
    Cherson
    russia
    Steppe_Rebels
    101 158 20
    slaves, sulfur
    5
    2
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 33 islam 5 pagan 60 heretic 2 }
    Vienna_Province
    Vienna
    hre
    Bohemian_Rebels
    131 61 33
    silver, timber, iron, dyes
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 90 orthodox 2 islam 0 pagan 6 heretic 2 }
    Dijon_Province
    Dijon
    france
    Burgundian_Rebels
    85 114 141
    iron, wine, coal
    5
    1.75
    religions { catholic 75 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 5 heretic 20 }
    Bern_Province
    Bern
    hre
    Swiss_Rebels
    175 175 175
    timber
    5
    1.75
    religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 5 heretic 10 }
    Innsbruck_Province
    Innsbruck
    hre
    Swiss_Rebels
    150 150 150
    teutonic_knights_chapter_house
    5
    1.25
    religions { catholic 80 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 5 heretic 15 }
    Bordeaux_Province
    Bordeaux
    france
    French_Rebels
    68 232 41
    wine, dyes, atlantic, explorers_guild
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 5 heretic 10 }
    Tbilisi_Province
    Tbilisi
    turks
    Steppe_Rebels
    199 31 143
    slaves
    5
    1
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 30 islam 30 pagan 30 heretic 10 }
    Kutais_Province
    Kutais
    turks
    Steppe_Rebels
    33 94 196
    slaves
    5
    1
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 30 islam 30 pagan 30 heretic 10 }
    Bucharest_Province
    Bucharest
    hungary
    Wallachian_Rebels
    218 246 61
    timber, iron, wine
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 60 orthodox 5 islam 0 pagan 35 heretic 0 }
    Milan_Province
    Milan
    milan
    Italian_Rebels
    221 232 41
    textiles
    5
    2.25
    religions { catholic 80 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 5 heretic 15 }
    Venice_Province
    Venice
    venice
    Italian_Rebels
    13 198 117
    textiles
    5
    2.25
    religions { catholic 95 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 3 heretic 2 }
    Toulouse_Province
    Toulouse
    france
    French_Rebels
    196 13 198
    iron, dyes, crusade
    5
    2
    religions { catholic 75 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 5 heretic 20 }
    Leon_Province
    Leon
    spain
    Iberian_Rebels
    13 157 198
    coal, wool, atlantic, explorers_guild, knights_of_santiago_chapter_house
    0
    1.50
    religions { catholic 90 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 10 heretic 0 }
    Zagreb_Province
    Zagreb
    venice
    Croatian_Rebels
    58 173 177
    gold, timber, iron, atlantic, explorers_guild
    5
    0.75
    religions { catholic 85 orthodox 14 islam 0 pagan 0 heretic 1 }
    Sofia_Province
    Sofia
    hungary
    Bulgarian_Rebels
    131 33 100
    timber
    5
    1.75
    religions { catholic 80 orthodox 5 islam 0 pagan 15 heretic 0 }
    Preslav_Province
    Preslav
    hungary
    Bulgarian_Rebels
    143 36 36
    timber, iron, wine
    5
    1.75
    religions { catholic 80 orthodox 5 islam 0 pagan 15 heretic 0 }
    Ragusa_Province
    Ragusa
    byzantium
    Croatian_Rebels
    177 83 58
    timber, iron, wine
    5
    1.25
    religions { catholic 85 orthodox 5 islam 0 pagan 5 heretic 5 }
    Zara_Province
    Zara
    byzantium
    Croatian_Rebels
    63 66 231
    timber, iron, wine
    5
    1.25
    religions { catholic 85 orthodox 5 islam 0 pagan 5 heretic 5 }
    Toledo_Province
    Toledo
    spain
    Spanish_Rebels
    198 13 35
    iron, swordsmiths_guild, knights_of_santiago_chapter_house
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 62 orthodox 0 islam 35 pagan 2 heretic 1 }
    Bologna_Province
    Bologna
    papal_states
    Italian_Rebels
    198 43 13
    marble, atlantic, explorers_guild
    5
    2
    religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 0 heretic 15 }
    Pamplona_Province
    Pamplona
    spain
    Spanish_Rebels
    31 100 37
    marble, wool, atlantic, explorers_guild
    5
    1.25
    religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 10 pagan 3 heretic 2 }
    Genoa_Province
    Genoa
    milan
    Italian_Rebels
    157 13 198
    marble, textiles
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 92 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 3 heretic 5 }
    Florence_Province
    Florence
    papal_states
    Italian_Rebels
    157 198 13
    marble
    5
    1.75
    religions { catholic 87 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 0 heretic 13 }
    Trebizond_Province
    Trebizond
    byzantium
    Anatolian_Rebels
    202 156 17
    silver, sulfur
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 45 islam 45 pagan 10 heretic 0 }
    Sinope_Province
    Sinope
    byzantium
    Anatolian_Rebels
    132 12 12
    silver, sulfur
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 45 islam 45 pagan 10 heretic 0 }
    Marseille_Province
    Marseille
    france
    French_Rebels
    117 198 13
    wine, dyes
    5
    2.25
    religions { catholic 80 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 15 heretic 5 }
    Yerevan_Province
    Yerevan
    turks
    Armenian_Rebels
    202 61 17
    iron, silk
    5
    1.25
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 8 islam 80 pagan 7 heretic 5 }
    Tabriz_Province
    Tabriz
    turks
    Armenian_Rebels
    47 115 18
    iron, silk
    5
    1.25
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 8 islam 80 pagan 7 heretic 5 }
    Zaragoza_Province
    Zaragoza
    spain
    Spanish_Rebels
    13 196 198
    iron
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 55 orthodox 0 islam 35 pagan 5 heretic 5 }
    Constantinople_Province
    Constantinople
    byzantium
    Greek_Rebels
    118 131 33
    grain, dyes, silk, atlantic, explorers_guild, crusade, horde_target, jihad
    5
    2
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 95 islam 2 pagan 2 heretic 1 }
    Lisbon_Province
    Lisbon
    portugal
    Iberian_Rebels
    13 198 30
    marble, tin, atlantic, explorers_guild
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 55 orthodox 0 islam 35 pagan 5 heretic 5 }
    Oporto_Province
    Oporto
    portugal
    Iberian_Rebels
    141 18 142
    marble, tin, atlantic, explorers_guild
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 55 orthodox 0 islam 35 pagan 5 heretic 5 }
    Thessalonica_Province
    Thessalonica
    byzantium
    Greek_Rebels
    177 58 145
    timber, marble, sulfur
    5
    2
    religions { catholic 5 orthodox 90 islam 0 pagan 3 heretic 2 }
    Ajaccio_Province
    Ajaccio
    milan
    Island_Rebels
    255 225 220
    wine
    5
    1.75
    religions { catholic 80 orthodox 0 islam 10 pagan 5 heretic 5 }
    Nicaea_Province
    Nicaea
    byzantium
    Greek_Rebels
    33 59 131
    silk
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 80 islam 15 pagan 3 heretic 2 }
    Athens_Province
    Athens
    byzantium
    Greek_Rebels
    31 238 50
    wine
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 80 islam 15 pagan 3 heretic 2 }
    Adrianople_Province
    Adrianople
    byzantium
    Greek_Rebels
    92 110 216
    wine
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 80 islam 15 pagan 3 heretic 2 }
    Abydus_Province
    Abydus
    byzantium
    Greek_Rebels
    225 148 37
    wine
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 80 islam 15 pagan 3 heretic 2 }
    Roman_Province
    Rome
    papal_states
    Italian_Rebels
    52 13 198
    crusade
    5
    2
    religions { catholic 99 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 0 heretic 1 }
    Naples_Province
    Naples
    sicily
    Italian_Rebels
    198 13 174
    wool
    5
    2.25
    religions { catholic 70 orthodox 20 islam 0 pagan 10 heretic 0 }
    Bari_Province
    Bari
    byzantium
    Italian_Rebels
    109 190 30
    wool
    5
    2.25
    religions { catholic 30 orthodox 60 islam 0 pagan 10 heretic 0 }
    Reggio_Province
    Reggio
    sicily
    Italian_Rebels
    62 98 157
    wool
    5
    2.25
    religions { catholic 30 orthodox 60 islam 0 pagan 10 heretic 0 }
    Caesarea_Province
    Caesarea
    turks
    Anatolian_Rebels
    177 58 148
    timber, iron, silk
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 15 islam 80 pagan 2 heretic 3 }
    Angora_Province
    Angora
    turks
    Anatolian_Rebels
    171 160 36
    timber, iron, silk
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 15 islam 80 pagan 2 heretic 3 }
    Baghdad_Province
    Baghdad
    egypt
    Seljuk_Rebels
    177 58 167
    silk, sulfur, jihad
    5
    2.25
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 0 islam 90 pagan 0 heretic 10 }
    Cordoba_Province
    Cordoba
    moors
    Iberian_Rebels
    17 13 198
    sugar, coal, atlantic, explorers_guild, knights_of_santiago_chapter_house
    5
    2.25
    religions { catholic 25 orthodox 0 islam 65 pagan 5 heretic 5 }
    Sevilla_Province
    Sevilla
    moors
    Iberian_Rebels
    199 17 201
    sugar, coal, atlantic, explorers_guild, knights_of_santiago_chapter_house
    5
    2.25
    religions { catholic 25 orthodox 0 islam 65 pagan 5 heretic 5 }
    Durazzo_Province
    Durazzo
    sicily
    Greek_Rebels
    13 18 244
    timber
    5
    1
    religions { catholic 10 orthodox 80 islam 0 pagan 10 heretic 0 }
    Valencia_Province
    Valencia
    spain
    Spanish_Rebels
    187 198 13
    knights_of_santiago_chapter_house
    5
    1.75
    religions { catholic 55 orthodox 0 islam 40 pagan 3 heretic 2 }
    Palma_Province
    Palma
    spain
    Spanish_Rebels
    26 155 23
    timber
    5
    1.75
    religions { catholic 55 orthodox 0 islam 40 pagan 3 heretic 2 }
    Iconium_Province
    Iconium
    turks
    Anatolian_Rebels
    17 165 202
    sulfur, wool, jihad
    5
    2
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 15 islam 80 pagan 3 heretic 2 }
    Adana_Province
    Adana
    turks
    Armenian_Rebels
    17 202 52
    sulfur
    5
    2
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 10 islam 85 pagan 3 heretic 2 }
    Attalia_Province
    Attalia
    turks
    Armenian_Rebels
    131 84 16
    sulfur
    5
    2
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 10 islam 85 pagan 3 heretic 2 }
    Mosul_Province
    Mosul
    turks
    Seljuk_Rebels
    41 232 225
    cotton
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 2 islam 85 pagan 0 heretic 13 }
    Cagliari_Province
    Cagliari
    sicily
    Island_Rebels
    198 35 13
    silver
    5
    1.75
    religions { catholic 80 orthodox 0 islam 10 pagan 5 heretic 5 }
    Edessa_Province
    Edessa
    turks
    Seljuk_Rebels
    244 122 13
    iron, silk
    5
    2
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 30 islam 70 pagan 0 heretic 0 }
    Smyrna_Province
    Smyrna
    byzantium
    Anatolian_Rebels
    61 177 58
    timber, iron, wine
    5
    1
    religions { catholic 2 orthodox 50 islam 45 pagan 0 heretic 3 }
    Antioch_Province
    Antioch
    turks
    Seljuk_Rebels
    13 244 165
    sugar, cotton, crusade, horde_target
    5
    2.25
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 2 islam 90 pagan 0 heretic 8 }
    Granada_Province
    Granada
    moors
    Iberian_Rebels
    180 198 180
    knights_of_santiago_chapter_house
    5
    1.75
    religions { catholic 25 orthodox 0 islam 70 pagan 0 heretic 5 }
    Brazil
    Fortaleza
    aztecs
    Native_Rebels
    0 223 255
    gold, timber, iron, chocolate, dyes, tin, america, no_pirates, no_brigands
    5
    2
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 100 heretic 0 }
    Aleppo_Province
    Aleppo
    turks
    Seljuk_Rebels
    175 171 244
    silver, silk
    5
    1.75
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 2 islam 90 pagan 0 heretic 8 }
    Jedda_Province
    Jedda
    egypt
    Arab_Rebels
    13 171 244
    iron, silk
    5
    0.75
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 0 islam 99 pagan 0 heretic 1 }
    Ayla_Province
    Ayla
    egypt
    Arab_Rebels
    197 38 199
    iron, silk
    5
    0.75
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 0 islam 99 pagan 0 heretic 1 }
    Qulzum_Province
    Qulzum
    egypt
    Arab_Rebels
    241 19 92
    iron, silk
    5
    0.75
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 0 islam 99 pagan 0 heretic 1 }
    Mekka_Province
    Mekka
    egypt
    Arab_Rebels
    209 22 207
    iron, silk, jihad, crusade
    5
    0.75
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 0 islam 99 pagan 0 heretic 1 }
    Medina_Province
    Medina
    egypt
    Arab_Rebels
    24 106 13
    iron, silk, jihad, crusade
    5
    0.75
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 0 islam 99 pagan 0 heretic 1 }
    Buraidah_Province
    Buraidah
    egypt
    Arab_Rebels
    241 88 41
    iron, silk, jihad, crusade
    5
    0.75
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 0 islam 99 pagan 0 heretic 1 }
    Palermo_Province
    Palermo
    egypt
    Island_Rebels
    177 142 58
    sugar, sulfur, cotton, amber
    5
    2
    religions { catholic 55 orthodox 0 islam 40 pagan 3 heretic 2 }
    Malta_Province
    Malta
    egypt
    Island_Rebels
    41 239 223
    sugar, sulfur, cotton, amber
    5
    2
    religions { catholic 10 orthodox 0 islam 85 pagan 3 heretic 2 }
    Corinth_Province
    Corinth
    byzantium
    Greek_Rebels
    225 192 192
    silver, silk
    5
    2
    religions { catholic 5 orthodox 90 islam 0 pagan 2 heretic 3 }
    Marrakesh_Province
    Marrakesh
    moors
    Saharan_Rebels
    202 126 17
    iron, atlantic, explorers_guild
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 0 islam 96 pagan 2 heretic 2 }
    Fez_Province
    Fez
    moors
    Saharan_Rebels
    94 194 124
    iron
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 0 islam 96 pagan 2 heretic 2 }
    Sijilmasa_Province
    Sijilmasa
    moors
    Saharan_Rebels
    204 62 13
    iron
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 0 islam 96 pagan 2 heretic 2 }
    Isle_of_Cyprus
    Nicosia
    byzantium
    Greek_Rebels
    126 144 111
    marble
    5
    2.25
    religions { catholic 5 orthodox 80 islam 10 pagan 3 heretic 2 }
    Damascus_Province
    Damascus
    turks
    Arab_Rebels
    244 203 14
    sugar, swordsmiths_guild
    5
    1.75
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 10 islam 80 pagan 10 heretic 0 }
    Algiers_Province
    Algiers
    moors
    Saharan_Rebels
    17 83 202
    iron
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 0 islam 90 pagan 10 heretic 0 }
    Tunis_Province
    Tunis
    moors
    Fatimid_Rebels
    202 191 17
    iron, crusade
    5
    1.75
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 0 islam 90 pagan 10 heretic 0 }
    Acre_Province
    Acre
    egypt
    Arab_Rebels
    33 131 128
    iron, silk
    5
    1.25
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 5 islam 90 pagan 0 heretic 5 }
    Isle_of_Rhodes
    Rhodes
    byzantium
    Greek_Rebels
    131 33 77
    wine
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 70 islam 20 pagan 10 heretic 0 }
    Isle_of_Crete
    Iraklion
    byzantium
    Greek_Rebels
    193 162 206
    timber
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 65 orthodox 30 islam 0 pagan 5 heretic 0 }
    Jerusalem_Province
    Jerusalem
    egypt
    Arab_Rebels
    244 13 29
    crusade, jihad, horde_target
    5
    2
    religions { catholic 2 orthodox 48 islam 35 pagan 0 heretic 15 }
    Tyrus_Province
    Tyrus
    egypt
    Arab_Rebels
    41 91 191
    crusade, jihad, horde_target
    5
    2
    religions { catholic 2 orthodox 48 islam 35 pagan 0 heretic 15 }
    Gaza_Province
    Gaza
    egypt
    Arab_Rebels
    35 244 13
    iron, silk
    5
    1
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 5 islam 80 pagan 10 heretic 5 }
    Tripoli_Province
    Tripoli
    moors
    Saharan_Rebels
    202 17 48
    slaves
    5
    1.25
    religions { catholic 10 orthodox 5 islam 70 pagan 10 heretic 5 }
    Kairouan_Province
    Kairouan
    moors
    Saharan_Rebels
    46 132 50
    slaves
    5
    1.25
    religions { catholic 10 orthodox 5 islam 70 pagan 10 heretic 5 }
    Al-Mahdiya_Province
    Al-Mahdiya
    moors
    Saharan_Rebels
    20 65 193
    slaves
    5
    1.25
    religions { catholic 10 orthodox 5 islam 70 pagan 10 heretic 5 }
    Al-Mansurya_Province
    Al-Mansurya
    moors
    Saharan_Rebels
    228 222 160
    slaves
    5
    1.25
    religions { catholic 10 orthodox 5 islam 70 pagan 10 heretic 5 }
    Barqa_Province
    Barqa
    moors
    Saharan_Rebels
    13 85 17
    slaves
    5
    1.25
    religions { catholic 10 orthodox 5 islam 70 pagan 10 heretic 5 }
    Alexandria_Province
    Alexandria
    egypt
    Fatimid_Rebels
    244 13 214
    sugar, cotton
    5
    2.50
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 5 islam 80 pagan 5 heretic 10 }
    Damietta_Province
    Damietta
    egypt
    Fatimid_Rebels
    80 122 8
    sugar, cotton
    5
    2.50
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 5 islam 80 pagan 5 heretic 10 }
    Arguin_Province
    Arguin
    moors
    Saharan_Rebels
    244 171 13
    gold, ivory, slaves, atlantic, explorers_guild, arguin
    5
    1
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 0 islam 80 pagan 20 heretic 0 }
    Timbuktu_Province
    Timbuktu
    moors
    Saharan_Rebels
    244 13 138
    gold, ivory, slaves
    5
    0.75
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 0 islam 3 pagan 97 heretic 0 }
    Cairo_Province
    Cairo
    egypt
    Fatimid_Rebels
    122 13 244
    sugar, cotton, jihad, crusade
    5
    2.50
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 5 islam 80 pagan 5 heretic 10 }
    Assouan_Province
    Assouan
    egypt
    Fatimid_Rebels
    208 176 25
    sugar, cotton, jihad, crusade
    5
    2.50
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 5 islam 80 pagan 5 heretic 10 }
    Dongola_Province
    Dongola
    egypt
    Saharan_Rebels
    42 232 77
    ivory, slaves
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 0 orthodox 10 islam 80 pagan 5 heretic 5 }
    South_Wales
    Caerdydd
    england
    Welsh_Rebels
    75 183 214
    coal, wool, atlantic, explorers_guild
    0
    0.50
    religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 12 heretic 3 }
    Cornwall
    Camborne
    england
    English_Rebels
    239 75 183
    iron, coal, wool, atlantic, explorers_guild, tin
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 10 heretic 5 }
    Sussex
    Hastings
    england
    English_Rebels
    142 239 75
    fish, wool, timber, atlantic, woodsmens_guild
    5
    1.25
    religions { catholic 90 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 7 heretic 3 }
    Maine
    Le_Mans
    france
    French_Rebels
    57 142 239
    timber, dyes, woodsmens_guild
    5
    1
    religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 13 heretic 2 }
    Poitou
    Poitiers
    france
    French_Rebels
    206 57 142
    timber, iron, wine, atlantic
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 10 heretic 5 }
    Haute_Normaundie
    Rouen
    france
    French_Rebels
    151 206 57
    timber, wine, atlantic
    5
    1.75
    religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 10 heretic 5 }
    Orleannois
    Orleans
    france
    French_Rebels
    28 151 206
    timber, iron, wine
    5
    1.75
    religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 10 heretic 5 }
    County_of_Bourbon
    Bourbon
    france
    French_Rebels
    214 28 151
    timber, iron, wine
    5
    2
    religions { catholic 80 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 12 heretic 8 }
    County_of_Troyes
    Troyes
    france
    French_Rebels
    183 214 28
    timber, iron, wine
    5
    1.75
    religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 10 heretic 5 }
    Auvergne
    Clermont
    france
    French_Rebels
    75 183 75
    wine, timber
    5
    1.25
    religions { catholic 98 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 1 heretic 1 }
    Languedoc
    Narbonne
    france
    French_Rebels
    239 75 239
    fish, wine, dyes
    5
    1.25
    religions { catholic 91 orthodox 0 islam 3 pagan 3 heretic 3 }
    Lyonnais
    Lyon
    france
    French_Rebels
    142 239 142
    dyes, wine, grain
    5
    0.75
    religions { catholic 97 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 2 heretic 1 }
    Blois_Province
    Blois
    france
    French_Rebels
    57 142 57
    wine, timber
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 87 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 9 heretic 4 }
    Alps
    Geneva
    hre
    Swiss_Rebels
    206 57 206
    timber
    5
    0.50
    religions { catholic 80 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 5 heretic 15 }
    Contea_di_Torino
    Torino
    milan
    Italian_Rebels
    151 206 151
    textiles
    5
    2
    religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 5 heretic 10 }
    Spanish_March
    Barcelona
    spain
    Spanish_Rebels
    28 151 28
    iron, fish
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 65 orthodox 0 islam 25 pagan 5 heretic 5 }
    Castile
    Burgos
    spain
    Spanish_Rebels
    214 28 214
    marble, coal, wool, atlantic, explorers_guild
    5
    0.50
    religions { catholic 88 orthodox 0 islam 8 pagan 2 heretic 2 }
    Gallicia
    Santiago_de_Compostella
    spain
    Iberian_Rebels
    183 214 183
    coal, wool, atlantic, explorers_guild, knights_of_santiago_chapter_house
    5
    0.50
    religions { catholic 90 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 10 heretic 0 }
    Manzanares
    Majerit
    moors
    Iberian_Rebels
    75 75 75
    knights_of_santiago_chapter_house
    5
    1.75
    religions { catholic 45 orthodox 0 islam 45 pagan 5 heretic 5 }
    Badajoz_Province
    Badajoz
    spain
    Spanish_Rebels
    239 239 239
    iron, coal, knights_of_santiago_chapter_house
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 65 orthodox 0 islam 25 pagan 5 heretic 5 }
    Mursiya_Province
    Mursiya
    moors
    Iberian_Rebels
    142 142 142
    coal
    5
    1.75
    religions { catholic 40 orthodox 0 islam 50 pagan 5 heretic 5 }
    Messina_Province
    Messina
    sicily
    Island_Rebels
    57 57 57
    sugar, sulfur, fish
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 75 orthodox 0 islam 20 pagan 3 heretic 2 }
    Cotrone_Province
    Cotrone
    sicily
    Italian_Rebels
    206 206 206
    wool
    5
    0.75
    religions { catholic 90 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 10 heretic 0 }
    Barletta_Province
    Barletta
    sicily
    Italian_Rebels
    151 151 151
    wool, fish, dogs
    5
    1.25
    religions { catholic 90 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 10 heretic 0 }
    Ancona_Province
    Ancona
    venice
    Italian_Rebels
    28 28 255
    textiles
    5
    2
    religions { catholic 95 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 3 heretic 2 }
    Havn_Province
    Havn
    denmark
    Norse_Rebels
    214 214 214
    fish
    5
    0.50
    religions { catholic 82 orthodox 5 islam 0 pagan 10 heretic 3 }
    Munster_Province
    Munster
    hre
    German_Rebels
    183 183 183
    timber
    5
    1.25
    religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 12 heretic 3 }
    Stuttgart_Province
    Stuttgart
    hre
    German_Rebels
    183 75 239
    timber, wine
    5
    1.50
    religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 12 heretic 3 }
    Augsburg_Province
    Augsburg
    hre
    German_Rebels
    214 183 75
    textiles
    5
    1
    religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 12 heretic 3 }
    Cologne_Province
    Cologne
    hre
    German_Rebels
    28 214 183
    timber, wine
    5
    1.25
    religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 12 heretic 3 }
    Rotterdam_Province
    Rotterdam
    hre
    Flemish_Rebels
    151 28 214
    textiles, dyes
    5
    1.75
    religions { catholic 85 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 12 heretic 3 }
    Brodno_Province
    Brodno
    poland
    Polish_Rebels
    206 151 28
    coal, timber
    5
    1
    religions { catholic 85 orthodox 3 islam 0 pagan 10 heretic 2 }


    ...and here is the map_regions.tga



    I hope this helps...
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  10. #10

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    LC
    Thanks. I tried to get to 199 so many times.. and using different colours for that 199th region. I'll try and recheck my map in the week using your colour codes.

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    Just tried it again and had no problems getting to 199 provinces (using just one sea colour).

    Now I've no idea what I did differently but I tried several times before and kept crashing with straight CTD. Yesterday I found I had a duplicate province name in the mercenaries.txt file and I tried adding it in again in case it caused a problem but just can't repeat the problem.

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    Is that what does it? only one sea color? I am relatively new to modding, so I really don't know. The map was originally an early version of Spurius' BigMap. If there is a difference in the sea, he changed it before I ever saw the map. I added 50+ regions to it and just stopped at 199 because I heard it was the limit. I never bothered to try 200. I'm racking my brain trying to think what might have caused a CTD like that...
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    Its actually quite strange. I had the CTD (no error messages) several times when trying to add the extra province. Then yesterday I was moving provinces around and renaming and found I had the duplicate in the mercenaries.txt file. Today I thought I'd just try adding a new province in again and it worked first time. I then tried to add in some duplicated provinces into the mercenaries and couldn't get a CTD. I then thought it may be tied to features somehow as I think I had always tested with the land bridges in and didn't have any now. I added a land bridge and still couldn't get a CTD.

    I then tried changing a sea colour for a lake to the one used in vanilla for lakes - and got an unexplained error but no direct CTD - so you couldn't now have 2 sea colours.

    I then thought I'd try adding one more region and I got the straight CTD again. Which resolved itself once I took out a different region.

    I really don't know what I did to not be able to add in the 199th originally. I'm sure I used different colours for different attempts. I also recall I accidentally started with a different sea colour to the main sea one in vanilla so maybe that had something to do with it.

    My map is a British isles map so its completely new.

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    That sounds like a pretty neat map. I know absolutely nothing about making maps (unfortunately). I think that (recently) I have become pretty competent at just about everything else. Best of luck with you mod, it sounds pretty neat.
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    Added culture to the top and changed the misleading region limit

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    Specific factions can have unique buildings right? So this limit on 7 cultures can be worked around right?
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    Settlement buildings arent limited to cultures, so I'm not sure what you're working around. Unless you're talking about strat map models, in which case, no you cant define them by faction.

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    Yeah there's not that much culture specific stuff actually. Mainly user interface stuff, music and so on but also the settlements (can't edit them yet anyways so that doesn't hurt too much).

    Casuir: Each faction can have different strat models, you just have to make a new entry afaik

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    You sure? They're defined in descr_culture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casuir
    You sure? They're defined in descr_culture.
    Ah you mean settlements and stuff. Right, those are defined in descr_cultures.
    I was talking about characters

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    Minimum unit size sweems to have been reduced in MTW2. A value of 5 in the unit size works without a crash. Lower is a CTD. On huge unit size, this gives 12 men, or 13 for a unit with a general model present.
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    Sorry I'm not english and I can't understand what's a building trees.

    Could you help me?

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    a building 'tree' is a structure where you build one building...which allows you to build 2 others etc. To build one, you must have the 'parent'

    They call it a tree because the structure, when draqwn out, looks like branches coming off a central 'trunk'
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    Is there any information about Kingdoms' limits ?

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    The game will crash part way through if you increase the maximium number of children a person can have (descr_campaign_db.xml). For example when I increased it from 4 to 5 children my mod crashed after 20 turns (always during the AI's turn). I have not tested whether you can lower the number of children.
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    Is there a limit in the vanilla game on modding strat map generals? I managed to add 3 but as soon as I add a 4th I get a "not enough video memory for texture set" crash. I was trying to add more unique generals per faction.

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    Cultures

    - Maximum Cultures is 7, adding another causes an unspecified error
    So does this mean if i wanted to make a different culture in the game, a northern pagan culture, i would have to remove another one? Or am i just shit outta luck? Would this affect adding a whole new factions with completely unique units in it, etc?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldgrim
    So does this mean if i wanted to make a different culture in the game, a northern pagan culture, i would have to remove another one? Or am i just shit outta luck? Would this affect adding a whole new factions with completely unique units in it, etc?
    M2TW starts with 6 cultures, meaning you can add a new culture. If you want a second new culture you have to remove an exisiting one.

    It is possible to add unique units to a mod without adding a new culture.

    Adding a new culture is only useful if you want this faction to have different unit / agent portraits and different strat / battle generals, otherwise it's easier to use an existing culture.


    Also is there a limit on the number of resources / hidden resources?
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    The maximium number of religions in Kingdoms is 10, according to this thread:
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=141176
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    Unspecified limit on "clustered" river.
    See this thread:
    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...40#post1807340


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