While we wait for 0.81 - how about a photo quiz?

[Namenlos]

Ok - here are two pictures.

http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/1ror-7.jpg

http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/1ror-8.jpg


Hints:

The pictures show two famous battle sites.

But beware: the location of one battle is still hotly disputed. So one picture actually shows only the place suggested by several military historians...

Deadline of the contest: Sunday - 18.00 o'clock (CET/MEZ)

Victory condition: be the first to identify both battles.

Each participant has three tries.

Price: My personal copy of David Anthony Durham: Hannibal - Pride of Carhage - delivered by air mail to any part of the world.

Good luck - PTB

[Mr Kaplan]

The first one seems a mediterranean country in late winter. So, I vote for Adrianaple.
The second one could be the Teotoburg forest.

[Bonny]

The second one is Kalkriese where the famous battle of the teutebuger forest happend, according to most historians.

The first on.....Cannae?

[Empedocles]

What about if you give some hints about the date of the battles?

The second one will be Chalons IMHO.
The first one, Cannae?

regards,

[Namenlos]

Time frame: All battles that occured during the periods covered by the "vanilla versions" of CA are possible answers:
a) Rome TW
b) BI
c) Alexander

So no "Battle of the Bulge", no Gettysburg, no "Decision at Gondor" etc., but Chalons sur Marne (451) or Adrianople (378) are included...

Hope this is not too difficult, but we will see on Sunday...

Btw: I would like to insert the pictures directly into the thread, but obviously this doesn't work. Could someone be so kind to give me some advice how to do it?

Regards - PTB

PS: Thanks Bavarian for your advice - still no luck (bin einfach zu ungeschickt, lassen wir es dabei). Halberstadt?

[Bava]

Just insert the [IMG][/IMG] tags.

To add some variety:

First one is Ticinus, second one is Halberstadt (or Kalkriese )

[Caveira]

Price: My personal copy of David Anthony Durham: Hannibal - Pride of Carhage - delivered by air mail to any part of the world.


I am reading this book. It's the first english book I bought and so far I have enjoyed. Altough it is a novel, it's seem to me very historicle accurate. Very violent and very funny at times too. For what I have read so far, I'd say it's a pretty good book, but I'm no expert.

[Namenlos]

Price: My personal copy of David Anthony Durham: Hannibal - Pride of Carhage - delivered by air mail to any part of the world.


I am reading this book. It's the first english book I bought and so far I have enjoyed. Altough it is a novel, it's seem to me very historicle accurate. Very violent and very funny at times too. For what I have read so far, I'd say it's a pretty good book, but I'm no expert.


Yes, I enjoyed it, too. So if the winner already owns it or prefers another read (the new Osprey campaign book "Pharsalos" - anyone?) - I gladly offer a substitute (20 Euro) he/she may choose at Amazon. The disadvantage: It will take some time to settle the transaction.

Ok, Empedokles was most likely correct. Without any further clues, the quiz is perhaps too difficult.

So here they are:

(1) The relevant period can be shrunk to the epoch covered by EB.

(2) Each battle was fought on a different continent.

(3) Both battles were won by the same nation.

If that still doesn't help, I will give a last clue on Saturday night (CET/MEZ).

Regards - PTB

[Caveira]

They both look like France to me. Probably some battle of Bella Gallica.

[Empedocles]

The first one is Caesar battle for Uttica.
The second one is Alesia.

That's my second try!

[Kugutsu]

I reckon Alesia for the second one too.

Not too sure about the first one. With that climate and those buildings it probably has to be turkey. How about total stab in the dark - Zela?

[Barnabas]

I'll take a stab in the dark.

Bibracte is the second one (it does look like France, after all).

For the first, it does look like it would have to be somewhere in modern Turkey. Perhaps a battle with Mithradates IV, but wouldn't be in the first Mithradatic war due to the location in Greece or the second due to Rome generally being the loser of that war... so I'm guessing maybe the battle of the Lycus river.

Edit: For my second guess, I'll go with Carthage (Edit: by Carthage I mean the battle Zama near Carthage)on the first and stick with Bibracte on the second (pretty sure on that one). The hazy atmosphere and the mountains in the background could be Carthage... the architecture isn't far off, and the vegetation looks plausible for Tunisia.

Edit2: Well, the mountains are in the wrong place though... but I don't have a better guess, so I'll stick with Carthage. :)

[Fondor_Yards]

1. No idea....but it does look like dacia to me for some reason....so...the Battle of Adamclisi

2. Alesia

Yes I know they are on the same continent, sue me.

[Arbaces]

Awesome wallpapers Namenlos, savin them right now.

Boru

[Shigawire]

The first one, with the mediterranean trees and vast flatland, I think is possibly Cannae, as it looks vast enough to have accomodated such armies.

The second one, could be Teutoburgerwald, considering the northern european trees, and it's a battle which location has been hotly contested for a while - though I saw on Terry Jones' "Barbarians" that they may be more certain about its location now after a British ex-Major and amateur-archaeologist found some Roman coins in a field.. the place has its own sign now as the battlesite.

But these two candidates have already been taken by Bonny

[Sarcasm]

Shig, Namenlos said that they are in 2 different continents, so you can't have both of the battles you're saying.

I think I know which battlefields they are, but I've bought that book and I'm reading it now [almost at the end too, 464 pages out of 550], so I'll leave it for someone else to guess it.

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

Shot in the dark:
1st one: Battle of Zama
2nd one: Battle of Alesia

[Shigawire]

Ah I missed that Sarcasm..

Hmmmm

Then I must revise, and make the 2nd attempt.
#1 could be Magnesia
#2 Teutoburgerwald

[Barnabas]

Magnesia and Teutobergwald are on the same continent... I originally thought Magnesia as well, but opted for Bibracte as the European theatre of war.

[Kugutsu]

Also both battles were won by the same faction. The romans were slaughtered at Teutobergwald, and Im fairly sure the germans didnt go to any other continents to win any victories, so that rules out that one.

[Oleo]

Btw: I would like to insert the pictures directly into the thread, but obviously this doesn't work. Could someone be so kind to give me some advice how to do it?

Copy these lines into your own posts and change GMI into IMG and it'll show up like you see here:

[GMI]http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/1ror-7.jpg[/GMI]



[GMI]http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/1ror-8.jpg[/GMI]

[Namenlos]

Shot in the dark:
1st one: Battle of Zama
2nd one: Battle of Alesia


Congratulations, these are the correct answers.

The first picture is very similar to the picture you will find in Connolly: Greece and Rome at war, p. 204 (oh yes, I'm still very grateful to my wife who gladly accepted this voyage during our vacations in Tunesia only to take a picture similar to that of Connolly's book )

Here's the corresponding description by Connolly, p. 203:

"The site of the battle is unknown. Kromayer and Scullard advocate a site 12 km southwest of El Kef which fits the battle topography well. This site is shown in the photograph on p. 204 but it remains far from certain."

The second picture shows the hill of Alesia (to the right you see the modern village Alise-Sainte-Reine). I took it standing on the Rhea-Hill, where - according to Napoleon III. - the famous last attack by the Gallic relieve forces had been made. If you look very closely, you discover the statue of Vercingetorix - erected by this French emperor - on the Alesia hill. A close-up of this statue can by found for example here: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alise-Sainte-Reine.

Marcus Aurelius Antoninus, please send me a PM. I need the following information: Which book you would like to read as well as to which address it should be sent by Amazon or me.

Hope you all enjoyed our little contest. Best wishes - PTB

PS: Thanks for your help, Oleo.

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

Yea!

(BTW, that link for the statue didn't work.)
EDIT: Nevermind you fixed it already...
and changed it...

[Shigawire]

Magnesia and Teutobergwald are on the same continent...

No they are not. Europa was whatever was west of the Hellespont..
Magnesia was in Minor Asia.

[Fondor_Yards]

Well I was 50% right...