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    Megas Domestikos Member AnthoniusII's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Orko
    1. these toilets were just holes where you craped in and not truely toilets, and these toilets existed in the middle ages.
    2. yes Europe invented hospitals and the great center of medicine ever was in the city of Salerno, That is in EUROPE
    3. belive me
    4. the book I read
    Why my dear felow can you not admit that in ancient,roman and medeival ages europe was far behind in medicine,health facilities,state organisation and many things more,than greek,roman,midleeast,chinesse and other civilisations...Alicarnasus (today under turkish rule in the west coast of asia minor) had swers build in 8th century bc and are still in use...Ancient people like egyptians,persians ,greeks and many others payed to much attention to public health.After all all doctors of the world still vouh on Ippocrates... Afcourse Romans took the technology of health ages beyond...Byzantines used and developed this tech.Arabs after they conquered ex roman and ex byzantine provinses adapted the culthure they found in them,simply because they were open minded and had no coblex of superiority...See the islamic cities of toledo,cordoba,granada and compeare them with european cities of their time...If europe knows something obout ancient culture,philosophy and technology is becaouse of the arabs and their weal for knowlege. So my friend be open minded your self.You might know something more...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnthoniusII
    Why my dear felow can you not admit that in ancient,roman and medeival ages europe was far behind in medicine,health facilities,state organisation and many things more,than greek,roman,midleeast,chinesse and other civilisations...Alicarnasus (today under turkish rule in the west coast of asia minor) had swers build in 8th century bc and are still in use...Ancient people like egyptians,persians ,greeks and many others payed to much attention to public health.After all all doctors of the world still vouh on Ippocrates... Afcourse Romans took the technology of health ages beyond...Byzantines used and developed this tech.Arabs after they conquered ex roman and ex byzantine provinses adapted the culthure they found in them,simply because they were open minded and had no coblex of superiority...See the islamic cities of toledo,cordoba,granada and compeare them with european cities of their time...If europe knows something obout ancient culture,philosophy and technology is becaouse of the arabs and their weal for knowlege. So my friend be open minded your self.You might know something more...
    From my impression it seems that you try to argue with me and take this too serious. I don't say that you are completely wrong, I knoe that roman, Arab and Greek civilizations were advanced I don't say they weren;t, I zust try to prove you that the european middle ages were not the most poor ages of all times and that only bad things happend than and nothing good happend, that all of the populationwas stupid and they didn't know anything about managemennt, medicine or science, because you think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Orko
    From my impression it seems that you try to argue with me and take this too serious. I don't say that you are completely wrong, I knoe that roman, Arab and Greek civilizations were advanced I don't say they weren;t, I zust try to prove you that the european middle ages were not the most poor ages of all times and that only bad things happend than and nothing good happend, that all of the populationwas stupid and they didn't know anything about managemennt, medicine or science, because you think so.
    I have nothing personal with anyone...In these forums we all try to make the GAME we like a bit better.No human race is stupid that's for sure.All humans have their own share for humanity's development.As for the history we all must remember what Thoucidides(the father of historians)said... History is a number of facts that none can change...but if someone wishes to know them can not simply have only one view,even after 100 views a historian is just closer to the truth... PS This series of games were a good reason for all of us to learn something more and we just share our knowlege.Have fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnthoniusII
    I have nothing personal with anyone...In these forums we all try to make the GAME we like a bit better.No human race is stupid that's for sure.All humans have their own share for humanity's development.As for the history we all must remember what Thoucidides(the father of historians)said... History is a number of facts that none can change...but if someone wishes to know them can not simply have only one view,even after 100 views a historian is just closer to the truth... PS This series of games were a good reason for all of us to learn something more and we just share our knowlege.Have fun
    OK so it is fine now

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    Looking over the map a little more, I'm finding things that I'm sort of mystified by. For example, why does Livonia have three provinces, and Scotland four, while the Low Countries have only two?

    Also, while some areas (Hungary and the Balkans, British Isles, Southern Italy) look very good viz. the province boundaries, other areas (mainly the HRE) look very odd. Stuff like tearing up the Tirol and Switzerland into a bunch of pieces and distributing them to neighboring provinces, giving Ostfriesland to the Netherlands, and in general some very oddly shaped provinces in the HRE that I can't really understand the reasoning for. Everything in the map looks fairly good, apart from the HRE (and the Algeria province which reaches down into interior and looks really weird).

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    Nevermind, I did a google image search and I guess the map of the HRE is being based directly on the official division of the Empire as here. In fact that might be the exact map they're using. I just disagree with it because the way the provinces were officially set up was not how they were actually divided in practice.
    Last edited by Pablo Sanchez; 07-03-2007 at 20:39.
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