Capo de Tutti Capi [Concluded]

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

I have just realised: each mafia family has one secret role:

One still remains

One mafia member of that family still remains alive....

[The Stranger]

I was thinking exactly the same Omanes... but Redleg clearly disagrees...

[The Stranger]

is it almost time?

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Night 4 concluded, no further PM's. Summary posted shortly.

[Kralizec]

Hey Moros, you missed this question:

Hey Moros, how is it that you know it's the corleone and tagatalia families?

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Night Four Summary


Caius Flaminius was moving cautiously – these days, he always did. When the masked stranger popped up from behind the steps of the browstone 25 yards ahead of the portico of the Hotel Abbatoir where Caius was standing, Caius did not hesitate. His Smith and Wesson was up and firing as fast as the masked gunman could close half the distance and squeeze off a burst from his Thompson. Both figures went down, Caius’ revolver flung from his hand by the impact of a round from the Thompson.

Both men struggled to their feet – for both had been wearing bulletproof vests. Caius really was cautious and he had all the extra inserts – hat, vambraces, upper legs and knees as well – so despite absorbing a couple of rounds each, neither man was more than bruised. The gunman once again raised his weapon, this time aiming for Caius’ face…when out of the foggy skies above came a blood-curdling scream!

“Goooodbyyyye…Cruuuuuel …Wor…!”

The last word was cut off by the crash of Copperhaired Berzerker as he smashed the Tommy gun out of the shooter’s hands and crushed the gun – and himself – on the pavement. The gunman was knocked down, but quickly got up and jogged off into the dark.

Caius was dumbfounded, but before he could move to retrieve his gun, before people in the lobby of the hotel had a chance to come forward and see what happened, more figures stepped out from behind cars across the street. Curiously, each was dressed, rather incongruously, as a Gypsy fortune teller…

“We know your past,” the figures chanted, “and it was not Ichigo’s time.”

Cauis began to edge backwards.

“We know your future,” the chanting continued, “and here’s your swan song!”

Each carried a Thompson and all of them had the big drums attached. They walked forward behind a stream of .45 caliber projectiles. It didn’t matter that Caius flung up his vambraced arms to protect his head. It didn’t matter that he was armored as well as – and a lot more stylishly than – Ned Kelly. The shooters each had more than one drum and between them fired nearly 400 rounds at Caius. Almost half of the rounds hit, pinioning him against the façade of the hotel and punching dozens of holes in his arms and legs and shattering most of his ribs, both collar bones, and both arms with the repeated impacts of nearly 200 slugs at less than 30 feet. The assassins faded back into the night. Rapidly bleeding out from his many wounds and internal injuries, Caius simply faded to black.


For Sir Moody, it was his innate sense of chivalry that proved his undoing. Observing one well-dressed fellow in opera hat, white tie and tails fending off a shabbily dressed and club wielding, would-be mugger with his walking stick just outside of the Yebba Road theatre, Moody darted forward to render assistance. As he reached the pair, the scruffy fellow backed away from the opera fancier – while holding onto and removing the ferule of the posh fellow’s walking stick. Ferule removed, the walking stick revealed itself to be a slim but exceedingly sharp Wilkinson blade. The blade proved its quality by transfixing Moody with a neat thrust up and in between the ribs of his left side and out between spine and scapula. Moody stared at his well-dressed killer, not even really feeling any pain, and tried to speak…

“But…you…”

“Don’t worry about it,” said the dandified swordsman. He quickly rotated the blade ninety degrees, watching the light fade in Moody’s eyes. “Don’t trouble yourself about anything.”

He pulled the blade from Moody’s body as Moody crumpled to the ground, cleaning the blade on his left glove. Handing his blade to his partner to sheathe, the swordsman gingerly stripped off the soiled glove to deposit it in a nearby trashcan. The second glove was also removed and dropped gently onto Moody’s body. Both men quietly walked away from the scene.


Sir Boo was enjoying a late dinner in front of his radio. The sky outside was dark and overcast. Boo’s room was lit only by the light from the big radio dial. Boo liked listening in the dark, as he could imagine he was there in the scenes with the characters he so enjoyed. So intently was he listening to the show, a crime drama he enjoyed called The Shadow, that he did not hear the gentle click of the front door as the lock was picked and it swung softly open. Nor did he hear the footsteps approach down the hall.

Then, coming into the room, one of the figures spoke, “Good evening, Mr. Boo.”

Boo froze in fear, then slowly straightened in his chair, squinting and straining to see the several dark figures standing in the entryway, but the light from the big radio dial was between Boo and the figures – he could barely make out their silhouettes in the dark – shadows within shadows.

"Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?” said the figure, mimicking the voice of Boo’s radio hero. “The Shadow knows.”

And with that, the stranger shot him in the head. Another figure placed a white glove on his body, then all exited the house. The light from the dial cast weird shadows over Sir Boo's injured face. On the radio, the Shadow triumphed again.


AndrestheCunning hadn’t gotten all that much sleep during the night, so when his alarm woke him at 5 a.m. and sent him downstairs to begin the day he wasn’t quite at his most cunning and observant. He missed the cup with the first half-ounce of coffee he poured from the percolator; he missed the edge of the rug and nearly stumbled into his own front door while navigating his hallway; he even missed the trigger wires of the two “Bouncing Betties” that some unkind soul or souls had placed under his morning paper. They bounced, he blinked, they blew, and he bled. Riddled by dozens of ball bearings, Andres could barely moan as he rapidly bled out from multiple wounds. As his vision faded, he couldn’t help but notice the headline of the torn front page of his paper lying next to him: Fermanagh Says Things Looking Up! <> Then nothing.


Fermanagh was his usual business-like self at that morning’s briefing.

“AggonyDuck grew up as a criminal and for years had been what the gangsters call a wise guy, but hadn’t done anything really bad since his last stint in jail. As far as we know, he was behaving himself – we even have a few unconfirmed rumors that he was trying to go straight. Maybe that’s what got him killed in so horrible a fashion. These monsters are just plain mean to someone they view as a traitor.”

<> thought Seamus.

“Major Robert Dump, on the other hand, was an even worse character. A few of our snitches have confirmed that he was what the mobsters call a “Made Man” – a confirmed criminal working for one of the crime outfits we’re fighting. It seems he was rubbed out by some of his competitors. They’re all a bunch of rats but this time they got rid of someone this town didn’t need.”

Seamus’ mood was brightening with each passing utterance. The night had been bloody, but so had the days been – for the mafia.

“We’ve discovered the same thing about Beirut. He may have been gen-teel on the surface, but he was clearly conducting recruiting efforts for one of the gangs when you folks stamped paid on his account. He too was a Made Gangster and we’re better off without him.”

Seamus smiled – a small grim smile.

“We’re winning this one folks, you’ll make TosaInu proud. Still, keep a good eye out; we’re reasonably certain we haven’t got them all rounded up yet. Good luck with your voting. I wish you continued success.”


OOC

The Butcher’s Bill to Date:

Attacked: Proletariat (N1), Sasaki Kojiro (N1), Redleg (N2), Moros (N3), theRTWGuru (N3)

Lynched: Kralizec (D2) [mafia don], Beirut (D3) [mafia made], pevergreen (D4)

Murdered: GeneralHankerchief (N1) [mafia luca], Stig (N2) [wise guy], AggonyDuck (N3) [wise guy], Major Robert Dump (N3) [mafia made], Caius Flaminius (N4), Sir Boo (N4), Sir Moody (N4), AndrestheCunning (N4)

Suicided: Ichigo, (D2) [townie], Tribesman (D2) [townie], Copperhaired Berzerker (N4)

WoGged: Nobody, and please keep it that way. Warning: several are close! Get active! Warning PMs have and will be dispatched.


Day 5 Session begins. Vote for Lynchee of choice; Select Director for Days 6 & 7. Votes/Selections will be accepted through 1400 EST 1/26/7.

[The Stranger]

I'd like to call AndresTheCunning to the stand.

The case of The Town vs AndresTheCunning can begin.[/B]

Andres, isn't it true that you PM'd atleast Moros but maybe even more (Dutch?) members this PM?

Beste GG,


Ik neem met dit bericht een berekend risico. Als je detective of FBI bent, ben ik nu dik gescheten.

Statistisch gezien is de kans groter dat je een andere rol hebt, dus ik waag het er maar op.

Ze wouden alle Nederlandstalige leden lynchen een tijde terug, welnu, laten we ze een Nederlandstalige maffia familie geven

Als we samenwerken met de andere Nederlandstaligen, kunnen we een paar moorden plegen en stilaan samen opklimmen tot mafia status (voor zover je al geen maffiosi bent momenteel).

Ik stuur dit voorlopig enkel naar jou. Vermits gij al langer in dit spelleke meedraait, neem ik aan dat ge al wat informatie hebt kunnen vergaren of al mee in een of ander complot zit.

Wie denk jij dat zou willen meedoen? Ik dacht aan Doc_Bean, Drisos en Dutch_guy. Kralizec en Stig zijn dood, maar misschien willen ze de levenden wel helpen door wat foute informatie door te spelen aan de anderen. Persoonlijk denk ik dat we daarin Stig meer kunnen vertrouwen dan Kralizec.

Waarom TheStranger er niet bij? Hij bevindt zich in de gevarenzone en zou ons mogelijks kunnen verraden om z'n hachje te redden.

Laat maar weten wat ge van m'n voorstel vindt.

Groetjes,

ATC

Now, I'm aware that not everyone speaks Dutch, so I'll give a rough and free translation and summary, there are enough Dutch members though to confirm whether I'm lying or not.

In this PM Andres is trying to recruit members to start a Dutch Mafia, the plan is to kill a few members and get promoted to mafia eventually. He did not want me in because I would rat on him, how true is that :P. But he mistaked himself in Moros, Moros being a sincere Townie immediatly PM'd it to me. That was a few days ago. Now why didn't I posted it earlier? Well, because IMHO Pevergreen was a bit more dangerous. So I wanted to wait for the next round, but then I got info about other Mafia, again Andres slipped to the background. I didn't wanted him to go free so I decided to kill him, based on this PM and the PM's he had sent earlier and his very suspicious behaviour even when he was not in the game.

[Moros]

Hey Moros, you missed this question:

Don't worry sir Don, I wasn't one of your rivals if that is what you think is the reason I know/knew or think/tought he to be tagatalia. Now why is it that I do know? Well sir Don, people make networks in this game. And I'm not an exception. I also do this. Some have mafia networks, but pro townies have also their networks. And mine is let us say rather large. I have tried to lay connection with quite a lot of people. And I had the luck to stumble on some pro townie groups. And you may or may not know but there are quite a few of these and they all have connections. Now they swap information, now the thing is how bigger your network the more and better your information gets. (tough you do get contradictions quite a lot.)

[Pannonian]

One general note for the town, in a reprise of my appeal from Mafia III.

Have as much public discussion as possible. Unless the information will endanger specific individuals, share the information in public, and don't hint at the grapevine, something you've heard, etc. The more public debate there is, the greater the chance the Mafia will slip up somewhere. Kommodus' famed formula works on analysing behavioural patterns, and that can only work if he is given material to work with. As I noted in Mafia III, lurking is a viable Mafia strategy, to deny the analysts this material. In a game like this, where even detectives are not omnipotent, this becomes even more important, as it is possible to spread rumours in private which cannot be refuted because the public cannot verify these rumours for themselves before it becomes a bandwagon.

This is general Mafia advice which has been proven in practice. Mafia or their equivalents tend to win in games where there is little discussion. Games with more discussion tend to result in town victories, one fo the reasons why the popular GH-hosted games are considered so difficult for the mafia. This would seem to mean a certain town victory in this game. However, there is more private discussion here than in previous games, which clouds matters a great deal (the chatroom was considered the mafia's greatest asset for the same reason). Also, detectives aren't as certain in their investigations as before, which makes their private activities less useful.

So bring that discussion into the open, people.

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

Vote: Proletariat
Select: Banquo's Ghost

Isn't she just a little bit inactive?

[The Stranger]

The white glove mafia is still alive... Also... I noticed they are the ones that make clean headshots... pro killers... sofar... One mafia is dead, one severely crippled but ONE IS ALIVE AND KILLING!!!

[Andres]

I have tried to lay connection with quite a lot of people.

That's what I did. I was looking for allies. You turned down my offer rather harsh. Check the time of my first pm to you, you'll notice it was not long after I got my role description. I tried to network and was in search of allies. I also needed information.

You turned me down.

Now I am killed.

Was I killed because you wanted to protect the town or was I killed because you feared the competition of another mafia family?

The only "evidence" you have is my pm's adressed at you asking for an alliance. Was this reason enough to kill me? Why not trying to convince me or manipulate me?

You could have used the pm's to blackmail me, to vote in favor of the town. I have posted quite alot of information during my short participation. I could have been a useful tool in your hands.

But maybe I had a bit too much information to your taste? Information that didn't serve your intrest? Dangerous information?

Were you getting scared? Why killing me so quickly?

I think TS and you have to explain and point out a bit more instead of posting one PM and giving a (deliberately?) very short and not at all clear translation.

[Moros]

RMD,Krazilec, GH, Beirut, Pevergreen were mafia. ANd yet they still doubted you, TS.

[The Stranger]

Cmon... Andres, you're little attempt was already known to the world... If I hadnt killed you, you would have been lynched... I just saved the town some time...

I don't care about your info, I'm not frightened... Even more, I want you to post it right now... Just prove I was wrong in killing you and you are/were actually pro-town...

[doc_bean]

So, Moros have you told as yet how you knew the names of the mafia families ?

Vote: Moros

unless you can give me a very good reason...

[Moros]

That's what I did. I was looking for allies. You turned down my offer rather harsh. Check the time of my first pm to you, you'll notice it was not long after I got my role description. I tried to network and was in search of allies. I also needed information.

You turned me down.

Now I am killed.

Was I killed because you wanted to protect the town or was I killed because you feared the competition of another mafia family?

The only "evidence" you have is my pm's adressed at you asking for an alliance. Was this reason enough to kill me? Why not trying to convince me or manipulate me?

You could have used the pm's to blackmail me, to vote in favor of the town. I have posted quite alot of information during my short participation. I could have been a useful tool in your hands.

But maybe I had a bit too much information to your taste? Information that didn't serve your intrest? Dangerous information?

Were you getting scared? Why killing me so quickly?

I think TS and you have to explain and point out a bit more instead of posting one PM and giving a (deliberately?) very short and not at all clear translation.

I donnot want to be an ass but your pm's talk about a dutch mafia, going for a mafia victory. I may not be a lawyar or something, but I believe that the mafia victory conditions somehow are against the law my freind. Also don't tell me I didn't gave you a chance. I think I showed it pretty clear that I was pro town.Yes I didn't say it completly and I left in the chance that I could be mafia. But evryone could see that I was pro-town or at least a mafia who pretended to be pro-town not wanting to take risk. You are no mafia, yes I know that you were a wiseguy wanting to become a mafia. You know as much as I that I couldn't convince you of anything else. And yes I culd have blackmailed you, but I didn't know how much power you, now did I? I also gave you two days and a night to prove your innocence and to join up with the pro-town team. If I waited much longer you might had become mademan already. Also if I were mafia, I wouldn't need a killgroup of four men, now would I? And I and TS didn't need to look for poeple willing to join up. Now do we?

I must say that you really got me convinced that I'm a mafia and that you are peacefull townie killed by ruthless mafiosi. Please.

[Andres]

The town never got an answer to this: your pm to me and my (much better then yours) translation

Nor did the town ever get much ad rem explanations to this

[The Stranger]

Instead of a wild goose chase... let's find DON #3 shall we...

[Moros]

So, Moros have you told as yet how you knew the names of the mafia families ?

Vote: Moros

unless you can give me a very good reason...

I believe I did, yes. Networking. You know you have detectives, right? Well I'm in undirect contact with him. I however will not tell his name, not by pm nor in public as I cannot trust this. And if I need to protect his name by dieing so be it. His role is more important than his.

Suspect me of all you want, to isn't it strange I've been helping town so much? that me and TS had so manny mafia lynched? WHile making ourselves suspect. A mafia might want to get other rival mafia killed. But would they ever do it if it make them suspicious, no.

So go a head lynch me, the post mortem will only make you feel sorry. We have lycnhed so manny mafia in a row. So why not let a pro-towner burn.

[Moros]

The town never got an answer to this: your pm to me and my (much better then yours) translation

Nor did the town ever get much ad rem explanations to this

I don't see a translation...
And That other post, well I don't see my name directly in it so I guess there's no thing for me to explain. Ask me a question and if I'm not sleeping yet I'll awser it. Iif it is reasonable and doesn't bring anyone in danger, except myself.

[Kagemusha]

So Doc,what were you doing last night? Killing people maybe. It seems you are going hard after Moros&TS.Whats your motivation behind that?

Vote Doc Bean

Select Omanes Alexandrapolites the Idiot

Well,why not.

[The Stranger]

I have a better case than you... and I'm 16 :P

Well for the PM, I said it didnt matter to me whether you were townie or mafia because I couldnt care less what you are/were when you give me the name of more Powerfull mafia... you were just in... also remember... you left that out... it wasnt the first time i asked you to give me the name... it was the second...

Later when you didn't want to cooporate... started to blame 6 people in a row without real evidence... and send the PM to Moros i decided it was time to kill you before you really did get an important role and stable foothold in this town/game...

[Moros]

I never thrusted you from the start, doc, I'm sorry to say. And well tough I would die protecting the detective I'd rather live and protect him.
Therefore:
vote: doc_bean
select: noone for now

[Kagemusha]

I have a better case than you... and I'm 16 :P

Well for the PM, I said it didnt matter to me whether you were townie or mafia because I couldnt care less what you are/were when you give me the name of more Powerfull mafia... you were just in... also remember... you left that out... it wasnt the first time i asked you to give me the name... it was the second...

Later when you didn't want to cooporate... started to blame 6 people in a row without real evidence... and send the PM to Moros i decided it was time to kill you before you really did get an important role and stable foothold in this town/game...

Stranger you need to start quoting people.Who are you talking to Andreas?

[Andres]

The white glove mafia is still alive... Also... I noticed they are the ones that make clean headshots... pro killers... sofar... One mafia is dead, one severely crippled but ONE IS ALIVE AND KILLING!!!

A mafia might want to get other rival mafia killed

But would they ever do it if it make them suspicious, no.

Maybe they would... It would be a very cunning strategy: at the beginning of the game you have three family members. You try to recruit a few more and you sacrifice two others who try to get as much rival mafia lynched as possible. Don't tell me you are not capable of this. I checked some threads here and there and it appears you, Moros aka GertGregoor, are pretty good at this game...


As for my post #1277 : the first sentence was adressed to TheStranger, the second to the town as a whole. Sorry if I wasn't clear

EDIT :

I have a better case than you... and I'm 16 :P

No need to flame,
it's just a game.

Besides, I already told you I am not a lawyer. Gah! Lawyers! Gah!

[doc_bean]

Suspect me of all you want, to isn't it strange I've been helping town so much? that me and TS had so manny mafia lynched? WHile making ourselves suspect. A mafia might want to get other rival mafia killed. But would they ever do it if it make them suspicious, no.

So go a head lynch me, the post mortem will only make you feel sorry. We have lycnhed so manny mafia in a row. So why not let a pro-towner burn.

In one of my first games of mafia, we played a game with multiple families too, I was a don, my tactic was to play the helpful villager and get rid of the other family as quickly as possible. Unfortunately for me that backfired because I revaeled a bit too much in a post. Kinda what you did with the family names.

I figure you might be trying a similar tactic.

[The Stranger]

@ATC: I'm sorry, You know I like you :D. I'll make it up to you in the TYOLT, Honey... oh make sure your wife doesn't read that ;)

@Kagemusha: That post was aimed at Andres.

[doc_bean]

So Doc,what were you doing last night? Killing people maybe. It seems you are going hard after Moros&TS.Whats your motivation behind that?

Vote Doc Bean

Select Omanes Alexandrapolites the Idiot

Well,why not.

Oh look, someone who made a public statement that he was a wiseguy hoping to become mafia is accusing me. Got recruited yet ?

I never thrusted you from the start, doc, I'm sorry to say. And well tough I would die protecting the detective I'd rather live and protect him.
Therefore:
vote: doc_bean

Why don't you trust me ? Because I ask questions ? Because I find it suspicious that you have information that only the mafia should have ? You're getting awfully defensive for someone prepared to die.

PUBLIC REQUEST

Can someone confirm whether or not detectives get the mafia family name after a succesful investigation ? I thought they'd only get a 'criminal' or 'innocent' result.


If that's the case, then you appear to be lying. First rule of mafia: when in doubt, lynch the liars

[Moros]

Maybe they would... It would be a very cunning strategy: at the beginning of the game you have three family members. You try to recruit a few more and you sacrifice two others who try to get as much rival mafia lynched as possible. Don't tell me you are not capable of this. I checked some threads here and there and it appears you, Moros aka GertGregoor, are pretty good at this game...

Well I guess I'll take it as a compliment. Tough I only survived long in one game, got killed in two other in first or something rounds, before being able to do an action. Kommodos, my partner might disagree with you tough. Bacause of me he couldn't finish his story and he called me stupid.
Anyway back to being serious. It could be a strategy but if I were to be mafia and had recruited several guys working for me. Wouldn't than I let them be the ones who get the others lynch and escape from suspicion and would have got the same thing. Also if you read MAFIA III that tought I was an average poster it was when I was accused when I started to be an "active" pro-townie. Now I was from round 2 (Missed round 1 because of chirsostemos. which is understandable.) The only thing is you are accusing me of so much without evidences or decent argument. Saying something could be a good startegy or saying someone is a good player doesn't make him a mafia. Just admit you want revenge for your death. That's all.

btw: you had contact with doc_bean.

As for my post #1277 : the first sentence was adressed to TheStranger, the second to the town as a whole. Sorry if I wasn't clear

doesn't matter. TS is inocent that I am sure of.

[The Stranger]

Andres... If i was Mafia, we would have left a glove... or some other token.

The Mafia of Kralizec has as token, a note with your Name on it... So I believe.

The White Glove Mafia, leaves a white glove as we seen so many times.

Pevergreen's mafia seems not to have performed a kill, because they were cripled after night one, loosing their luca.

Did I leave a trace...? no... so I'm not mafia... I could be a wise guy though... but which side? I think I've proven that enough, just to underline that with Capital Letters by killing you... a Mafia or a Pro-Mafia player...