Capo de Tutti Capi [Concluded]

[pevergreen]

is everyone ignoring the PM i got? in Spoil tag at top of page 13. If you think mine is faked, i can get screenshot proof... But that can be faked cant it?

[doc_bean]

is everyone ignoring the PM i got? in Spoil tag at top of page 13. If you think mine is faked, i can get screenshot proof... But that can be faked cant it?

We've done nothing but talk about those PMs !

I think posting screenshots is against the rules BTW.

Oh yeah, forgot to add this last time: vote:abstain , for now.

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

After reading Krazilec's post, I've noticed that his writing style doesn't quite seem to fit with the PM. Therefore I Unvote: Krazilec.

How long will the voting continue?

[Seamus Fermanagh]

is everyone ignoring the PM i got? in Spoil tag at top of page 13. If you think mine is faked, i can get screenshot proof... But that can be faked cant it?

Screenshots are specifically forbidden.

[pevergreen]

Good, thank you for that Seamus, but can the director be lynched? Or have i missed the post saying yes/no?

My voting changes, once more.
Unvote: Redleg
Vote: Krazilec

[HughTower]

After reading Krazilec's post, I've noticed that his writing style doesn't quite seem to fit with the PM. Therefore I Unvote: Krazilec.

How long will the voting continue?

About 3 1/2 hours.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

A few notes:

Voting is open until 2pm Eastern today.

-- Counter Question: Is 22-24 hours really not enough? That has never been the case before, but we've never had this many playing. Or would 24 hours be enough with a different point in the day? PM me with thoughts and if I see a better way I will modify the procedures.


Current vote count:

Abstain = 11
Andres = 4
Arach = 1
Beirut = 1
Ichigo = 1
Kralizec = 3
Motep = 1
Omanes = 1
Proletariat = 3
Redleg = 1
Reenk Roink = 3
Sasaki = 1
Stranger = 1

If abstainers actually want a "no lynch" they'll need to change.

Currently, you're putting Andres under the axe. This is rather cruel as he isn't in the list of players. Still, that'll set him straight right from the get-go!


As to Andres' participation. I received a request to pass PM's anonymously to recipients in the game. I responded that I would not do so, as anything coming from me might be thought "official" and that my GM role was the only neutral one. I also responded that the tactic itself would not be illegal.

Mafia is a game that revels in deception....someone(s) here simply took it to a new level.

[Orb]

unvote: The Stranger
Vote: Krazilec

With the information surfacing about the Dutch spelling of Mafia and also the lack of idioms, yet professional English in the letters, I think Krazilec is the mastermind behind this.

[Kralizec]

I tell you, it wasn't me! Its not as if I'm the only one here who knows Dutch And it's Kralizec, not Krazilec.

Vote: Reenk Roink

out of self-preservation.

[Redleg]

Unvote:abstain
Vote:no lynch

Just not enough information for me to vote on a lynching

[Kagemusha]

I can confirm that what GH sayed is true.We were going to start a vigilante group but becouse we didnt have enough data we decided to call of the killing of Sasaki.Now becouse i believe that GH was infact telling the truth.I suggest to start lynching the possible mafia guys who GH named:

Reenk Roink
Redleg
Beirut
Stig

So based on this info : Vote: Reenk Roink

[AggonyDuck]

After reading the thread through more closely a change of opinion has occured in me. Kralizec seems to fit perfectly as the Dutch mafioso who's responsible for the PM's. Hence:

Unvote: Reenk Roink
Vote: Kralizec

[Andres]

N'oubliez pas que mon français n'est pas mal non plus.

[pevergreen]

No idea what that is, but

to Andres, you left a * out, just so "you" and 'you' know what im talking about

[Redleg]

I can confirm that what GH sayed is true. We were going to start a vigilante group but becouse we didnt have enough data we decided to call of the killing of Sasaki.Now becouse i believe that GH was infact telling the truth.I suggest to start lynching the possible mafia guys who GH named:

Reenk Roink
Redleg
Beirut
Stig

So based on this info : Vote: Reenk Roink

So you agree with the statements of GH that stated you are at least a wiseguy wantabe?

I told the following people this role: Kagemusha and Pannonian. I believe Kage may have told some others such as Caius Flaminius. Kagemusha claims the role of wiseguy. Pannonian claims townie.

Unvote:no lynch
Vote:Kagemusha

[pevergreen]

Hmmm...not to tarnish GH, but i believe his mafia list...to a point. But i am starting to doubt his reveal.

If he was a doctor, and he wanted to live past the first round, why didnt he protect himself. i would have.

[Kagemusha]

I am wiseguy but that doesnt mean im guilty and mafioso as it seems you are Red. In couple turns i think im ordinary townie.I already slept one night.

[Redleg]

I am wiseguy but that doesnt mean im guilty and mafioso as it seems you are Red. In couple turns i think im ordinary townie.I already slept one night.

Ah more confession of being connected to the desire to be mafioso.

[Kagemusha]

Ah more confession of being connected to the desire to be mafioso.

Well i think sleeping the night is also a fatal proof of that.What were you doing the last night my friend?

[HughTower]

Looks like it's Kralizec 5, Reenk Roink 4, Proletariat 3 on the leaderboard. Discounting those who are still riding the Andres Wagon to Nowhere, of course.

Kralizec, at least, is having the decency to defend himself, whilst, as I've mentioned elsewhere, RR voted to lynch himself, & Proletariat was strangely saved, & both are silent.

[Redleg]

Well i think sleeping the night is also a fatal proof of that.What were you doing the last night my friend?

Well it seems I have described what I was doing last night in a previous post.

[Kagemusha]

Well it seems I have described what I was doing last night in a previous post.

Allright.In that case you shouldnt have any problems telling us what your role is becouse there is no doubt that becouse you are on GH´s list a detective will investigate you next night.

[Redleg]

Looks like it's Kralizec 5, Reenk Roink 4, Proletariat 3 on the leaderboard. Discounting those who are still riding the Andres Wagon to Nowhere, of course.

Kralizec, at least, is having the decency to defend himself, whilst, as I've mentioned elsewhere, RR voted to lynch himself, & Proletariat was strangely saved, & both are silent.

Proletariat could be assumed to be mafia at this time. The describtion of her save sounds very much like a Luca prevented her would be assination.

But I am still working through the claim and now confession of Kagemusha of being a wiseguy. So my vote still remains the same.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

If he was a doctor, and he wanted to live past the first round, why didnt he protect himself. i would have.

It is specifically prohibited. This, by the way, is a normal limitation for the Doctor role in the vast majority of mafia games -- not just peculiar to mine. An unkillable Doctor would quickly reveal herself to prevent lynching and then weed out mafia without risk -- hardly sportin'.

[Redleg]

Allright.In that case you shouldnt have any problems telling us what your role is becouse there is no doubt that becouse you are on GH´s list a detective will investigate you next night.

The clues are all present in the discussion so far. Any investigation will find me clean.

[Proletariat]

Not sure why so much is being read into how I was saved. It's just the write up. Unless you guys think Seamus was sent how I was to be killed, and then how I was to be saved. Doesn't seem very likely, but eh, looks like the band wagon is rolling.

Beyond the Andres PMs we don't have too too much to go on still, after 633267 first round posts, but I say we lynch all the Dutch players for the hell of it. The only person so far who seems completely innocent is Csar, but maybe he's a Dutch patsy

Unvote: CountA
Vote: Tribesman

Let's get some lurkers talking.

(Vote will most likely change, if I can get to a pc before the deadline)

[Ituralde]

Redleg, those informations really shouldn't come as a surprise to you.

I told the following people this role: Kagemusha and Pannonian. I believe Kage may have told some others such as Caius Flaminius. Kagemusha claims the role of wiseguy. Pannonian claims townie.

Kagemusha is just confirming this, and the mere fact that you are a wiseguy/gal doesn't make you Mafia it just puts you in a better situation if you want to become one.

I'm really not doubting that part of GHs reveal, as his information has been confirmed by Pannonian also. That doesn't make the rest of his statement true by default though. And just wildly throwing names around from some alleged contact is not really getting us anywhere. And besides GHs credibility, there's also the credibility of his contact and his original source to consider.

Although why GH would reveal his doctor role right from the start boggles my mind. Just thinking of the implications... have to think this through before I'll do anything else.

Unvote: Omanes Alexandrapolites
Vote: Abstain

[Redleg]

Redleg, those informations really shouldn't come as a surprise to you.

Who was surprised?

Kagemusha is just confirming this, and the mere fact that you are a wiseguy/gal doesn't make you Mafia it just puts you in a better situation if you want to become one.

Asking direct questions is a way to confirm or deny the claim, and to discover intent.

Unvote:Kagemusha
Vote: No lynch

[Dutch_guy]

Beyond the Andres PMs we don't have too too much to go on still, after 633267 first round posts, but I say we lynch all the Dutch players for the hell of it. The only person so far who seems completely innocent is Csar, but maybe he's a Dutch patsy

Well, I'm not in favour of that - obviously . Why not lynch all the Americans, as one of those might be a mafioso Or all the Kage's, since they're wiseguys.

After reading the five pages that I missed, I still haven't seen any proof whatsoever that a player's guilty. However, the tactic the mafioso have obviously chosen (killing rather experienced, troublesome players) is a risky one. We all know we can't possibly stop Sasaki from posting, god knows we've tried in numerous other games - to no avail. So why waste a potential kill on him, especially since he's a player who tends to get protected the first round as well!

That said, I'm not going to vote this round (well, I'm abstaining) as I'd like to see how the game unfolds. So far, nothing conclusive.

Vote:abstain.

[pevergreen]

This is so entertaining for my first game.


The mysterious Maffia. Yes not mysterious anymore...just unknown. I can say however, they are Dutch/Flemish. If they were on the list they did not say. Yes i am in contact with them.