Capo de Tutti Capi [Concluded]

[Redleg]

He doesn't have his role pm yet, so he's waiting to find out if he's mafia before revealing the name. Or perhaps he does have his role pm and is lying about not having it. If he doesn't give us the name: lynch him, if he does we verify it and if it's wrong then we lynch him.

Yes indeed Andres is pretty much one of the front runners for a lynching if he doesn't come clean with who he sent the PM for. By reveling it to some of us for verification he will most likely save himself for at least 1 day.

But Andres also has tonight to worry about, I don't see him getting protection tonight unless he releases the information to the town. So he really is stuck with only one choice for now. Protection by mafia tonight will not save him from the lynching of tomorrow, Protection by a townie group provides time for him to have a detective verify his information. His obvious target appeal also will provide some townie's the ability to gain doctor status in taking on protection roles for him. All in all - his addition is a win-win for the town.

Tough call Andres one that your going to have to make.

[Andres]

As long as I don't have my role description, I cannot decide.

What would you do in my place: having valuable information but not knowing who's intrest you are supposed to serve: the scum or the townies?

[The Stranger]

@Stig: You're Dead, Get Lost. :P But you're probably right. I guess he get's a special role, and to make it even better, I think it's a role in which he can decide who's side he joins.

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

For some reason The Stranger I believe that you are innocent - convinced because of the PM that you have recently sent me. I'll consider it.

[doc_bean]

As long as I don't have my role description, I cannot decide.

What would you do in my place: having valuable information but not knowing who's intrest you are supposed to serve: the scum or the townies?

Well, you're screwed either way. If you don't give the town something there's a good chance you'll get lynched. If you work for the mafia and lie and the town finds out, then you'll certainly get lynched.

But there's little chance yo'ull be working for the one you sent the PM for, so just give us the name

[Stig]

@Stig: You're Dead, Get Lost. :P

1. The dead may post, but not vote.

I'll stay just to stalk you, ok?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

As long as I don't have my role description, I cannot decide.

What would you do in my place: having valuable information but not knowing who's intrest you are supposed to serve: the scum or the townies?

Unfortunately I believe we have no choice but to lynch you. If you turned up mafia it's possible that the mafia family you work for is a family other than the one that pm'd you, and so your selling them out would be no guarantee of your innocence.

Detective investigation is the only way I'd trust you.

[The Stranger]

I'll stay just to stalk you, ok?

I'm honoured

[Pannonian]

Unfortunately I believe we have no choice but to lynch you. If you turned up mafia it's possible that the mafia family you work for is a family other than the one that pm'd you, and so your selling them out would be no guarantee of your innocence.

Detective investigation is the only way I'd trust you.

If Andres is going to die, we might as well leave him for the meanwhile and lynch him a few rounds later. Give him a few rounds as a first time player, since we're not likely to forget the PM episode. I'd much rather pursue The_Stranger and co now.

[The Stranger]

I'm also a new Member... This is my first mafia game... I did nothing wrong and I'm helping... why do you want me dead so much... Go find someone else...

[Crazed Rabbit]

Hey everyone - I just got back yesterday night from a mini-vacation.

7 pages written in my absence - wow! It seems Beirut got the lynch after a mis-step by Krazelic, who turned out to be a good lynch choice, it would seem.

And kudos to the townies who saved our director. Now we're back to the night phase, if I understand correctly, so no voting yet?

Crazed Rabbit

[doc_bean]

I'm also a new Member... This is my first mafia game... I did nothing wrong and I'm helping... why do you want me dead so much... Go find someone else...

You've been cut some slack. If people pulled stunts like you did in most 'regular' mafia games they'd be lynched on the spot.

[Csargo]

I'm also a new Member... This is my first mafia game... I did nothing wrong and I'm helping... why do you want me dead so much... Go find someone else...

Like doc_bean said if you pulled the kind of stuff you have this game you probably would have been lynched right off. But since your new they probably let you off along with the damning stuff against Beirut. If I were still alive I would have voted for you. There have been people lynched for far less than what you've done.

[Moros]

Yeah, you can be sure of that!

[Redleg]

If Andres is going to die, we might as well leave him for the meanwhile and lynch him a few rounds later. Give him a few rounds as a first time player, since we're not likely to forget the PM episode. I'd much rather pursue The_Stranger and co now.

I am inclined to agree. Andres should be kept alive this night with a promise to inform the town who he was sending the PM's for if he survives the night. If he fails to provide that information as soon as the night phase is done, for the sake of timing, 4 hours after the Night Phase write-up is posted. If he doesn't provide the information we can always vote to lynch him that day or the next, all depending if his information warrants a detective to investigate or not.

But that is just my idea.

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

If anyone wants one of my working girls, feel free to PM me.

[Csargo]

Weird BKS

[Major Robert Dump]

What do the working girls do? Clean? Mow the lawn? I'll take one, a fat one please, so she can pull my plow.

[Louis VI the Fat]

@Stig: You're Dead, Get Lost. :P

You seem to be revelling a bit much in the dead of an innocent, clean wise guy. Why is that?

You do realise that you're only alive because everybody knows you're town - and that includes the mafia?

Oh, and you better make sure your buddie, err, this new wise guy, err AndresTheCunning joins the town...

Also, it's all fine and dandy that you've aligned yourself with a nice protection group, but even if you escape the lynch vote, which you probably will, your group will face a tough dilemma every night: protect you again or protect Andres from now on.

Unless of course we start getting some clear signals that both you and Andres are working for the town, without any designs of your own.

I deleted those pm's because I needed space in my PM box.

Look around and you'll notice the pm's were sent when I just started to recruit for the new PBM, the Gallic Confederation.

I pm'd alot in those days and had to delete what was not worth keeping. At the time, those pm's weren't important to me, since I was not participating in this game.

Why do I tell this?

Why do you tell this? Because you think we would fall for this sort of nonsense perhaps?
Come on Andres. Of course you remember whom you send the PM's for. Besides, everybody knows that it was The Stranger and his group anyway.
Also, you have been PM-ed your role ages ago. Hours before you said here you didn't have your role description yet.

Now I understand your need to not give away too much. I hope in turn you understand that this town is going to rid itself of mafia scum - and if you're not with us, you're against us...

[CountArach]

Andres, you really have no choice but to give us a name. That is all we are asking for. If we lynch that person and they are guilty, we can start to trust you. As it is, whoever you sent it for is likely to want you dead so that you can not hold them Blackmail.

[ByzantineKnight]

EDIT: @luigi VI di Fatlington

Only the Sith deal in absolutes
Obi-wan Kenobi

You seem to know alot about the PM...

[pevergreen]

If anyone wants one of my working girls, feel free to PM me.

Hook me up with one!

[ByzantineKnight]

Unfortunately I believe we have no choice but to lynch you. If you turned up mafia it's possible that the mafia family you work for is a family other than the one that pm'd you, and so your selling them out would be no guarantee of your innocence.

Detective investigation is the only way I'd trust you.

Why lynch him? He is probably innocent (mafia roles already assigned). It is most likely he has a special role... And he might reveal who sent the PM if he gets a pro-townie role...

I say keep him alive.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Why lynch him? He is probably innocent (mafia roles already assigned). It is most likely he has a special role... And he might reveal who sent the PM if he gets a pro-townie role...

I say keep him alive.

GH-mafia
beirut-mafia
kralizec-mafia

I'm thinking Seamus added him as a mafioso to help the mafia out. Maybe he added him to your family and that's why you want him alive?

[Caius]

If anyone wants one of my working girls, feel free to PM me.

[ByzantineKnight]

GH-mafia
beirut-mafia
kralizec-mafia

I'm thinking Seamus added him as a mafioso to help the mafia out. Maybe he added him to your family and that's why you want him alive?

Seamus would'nt add him to one family, it would be unfair to the others, mabye if there was three.

If he was added to my family I would know about it.

I think this is wrong

beirut-mafia
kralizec-mafia

Kralizec might be mafia, but beirut is probably not. I think it was a frame up.

EDIT: By family I mean if i was part of a mafia family (as opposed to a townie family)

[CountArach]

lol

EDIT: By family I mean if i was part of a mafia family (as opposed to a townie family)

Nice save...

Or was it?

*Checks BK's name on "The List"*

[ByzantineKnight]

First off, im not a known player (i dont play mafia often), so I am a safe choice for "The List"

Second you can ask Murfios or pevergreen or Caius Flaminius or other people, Im a townie, I am part of protection groups.

EDIT: if you want to go after mafia, in the day either me, Redleg, or Caius Flaminius will tell you who is responable for the PM that Andres passed on, I can't do it now, i might get attacked by mafia.

[Csargo]

GH-mafia
beirut-mafia
kralizec-mafia

I'm thinking Seamus added him as a mafioso to help the mafia out. Maybe he added him to your family and that's why you want him alive?

If Andres doesn't reveal who he sent the mafia PM's for then he should be lynched.

[ByzantineKnight]

If Andres doesn't reveal who he sent the mafia PM's for then he should be lynched.

I told you, he doesn't need to, I know who it is. But I cannot reveal because *insert person's name*'s Mafia family will kill me because I am not protected.

ByzantineKnight