Capo de Tutti Capi [Concluded]

**Csargo** · 01-18-2007, 21:39

The attacks on Sasaki and GH are really strange. Why would you try to kill two players that will have a lot of suspicion on them in later rounds. The attempted kills and kill baffle me.

Vote:Abstain

**Masy** · 01-18-2007, 21:52

I have absolutely no suspicions at this time, and have no idea who to vote for. It will take me some time to get used to the amount of detail in this game

Vote: Abstain

**Stig** · 01-18-2007, 21:55

Originally Posted by Ichigo

The attacks on Sasaki and GH are really strange. Why would you try to kill two players that will have a lot of suspicion on them in later rounds. The attempted kills and kill baffle me.

Well you will kill 2 of the veterans of the game really. I'm new so I might be wrong, but from what I've read they seem the veterans and the "best" players in the game, you want to win, why not take the good players out early on, makes things easier for you

Vote: Abstain

**Csargo** · 01-18-2007, 22:01

Originally Posted by Stig

Well you will kill 2 of the veterans of the game really. I'm new so I might be wrong, but from what I've read they seem the veterans and the "best" players in the game, you want to win, why not take the good players out early on, makes things easier for you

Vote: Abstain

Yes, but veteran players bring more suspicion on themselves. Especially Sasaki I think someone new tried to kill Sasaki.

**Pannonian** · 01-18-2007, 22:04

Originally Posted by Ichigo

The attacks on Sasaki and GH are really strange. Why would you try to kill two players that will have a lot of suspicion on them in later rounds. The attempted kills and kill baffle me.

Vote:Abstain

I have heard from various sources that GH was a pro-town role, which may mean that pro-mafia people may have got wind of it too. I'm not sure how much information on other players Seamus gives in the introductory PMs, and I suspect he wouldn't say even if I asked.

However, to kick off discussions, I will express my suspicions about you, Ichigo. In post #169, you encouraged us to select you as Director, warning us about Beirut's axe in the back. Now since Beirut's axe has no bearing on this game, I have to say this is classic meatballing. Combined with your eagerness to get an unkillable role, I would say you are mafia, possibly even a Don, looking for safety from other gangs while orchestrating the discussion. What says you to this?

Edit: Hyperlinking post #169.

**Crazed Rabbit** · 01-18-2007, 22:17

If GH was a pro-town role, and if he shared that info with some people, perhaps he could reveal who he talked to.

That might give us an idea of where to begin. Of course, those he talked to might have talked themselves.

Pannonion has a point about Ichigo's 'meatballing', but it doesn't seem that likely to me that Ichigo is mafia.

I think abstaining for now is good, but we probably want to vote this round due to the odds of lynching various roles.

CR

**Csargo** · 01-18-2007, 22:20

Originally Posted by Seamus

Your Role: Townie

Your basic mode for success is to vote to lynch Mafiosi, eventually removing the mafia threat from Fatlington and creating a town win.

Role Changing:

At your discretion, however, this role can change. This will take time, effort, and coordination with other townies. If you:

Combine with 3 other townies you can attempt to kill one target per night (after two successful kills, you will become a “Wise Guy” and can progress from there).

Combine with 2 other townies you can attempt to protect one target per night (after two successful protections, one of you may become a “Doctor “ and can progress from there).

Creating these combinations is up to you however, and you will have to work out your own deals/contracts/arrangements for forming such a combo with the other players.

PM’s:

Each night you are still alive, PM me with instructions for your actions that night. These may be:

“Get some sleep” “Protect so-and-so in combination with player 1, player 2…” or “kill so-and-so in combination with player 1, player 2…”

Warning: if the requisite number of townies is NOT available, the protection/kill effort will almost certainly fail. If a townie attempts a kill/protection solo, the effort will certainly fail, and there will be at least one chance in three that the townie will perish in the attempt.

Investigations:

It is most probable that, if investigated by a Detective or by a Made Gangster, you will be discovered as “innocent.” Remember, however, that a significant minority (20%) of townspeople will register as “unclear” rather than innocent if investigated by a Made and as “criminal” (5-10%) if investigated by a detective. You will only register as “guilty” if you have participated in a killing.

Getting Recruited:

What if a Mafioso seeks to recruit you? You can respond as you wish to such an offer. However, if they believe you to be a Wise Guy and use you as part of a kill team, that team will very likely fail unless you are an “extra” and they already have sufficient killers on the team.

meh I'm the one who tried to kill Prole.

Edit:

Originally Posted by AndrestheCunning

Hello Ichigo,

I who wrote this message, am of the Maffia. Let me get to the point at once: we might be interested in recruiting you.
At this point we can't be sure if you're just a regular townie, or have a special role. As you could have derived from the rules, we only may investigate two people every night.
Since we can't be sure of you, you must start earning our trust...if you're interested, of course.
We want you to kill a person. Assuming you're just a regular townie: you'll need to find 3 co-conspirators to carry out a succesful murder. You'll need to do this yourself.
As for your victims: pick one of the following:
Banquo's Ghost, Doc_Bean or Proletariat
Your conspirators may not include: Beirut, ByzantineKnight, Cowhead418, General Hankerchief, Hepcat, HughTower, Ignoramus, Kommodus, Kralizec, Pevergreen, Redleg, Reenk Roink, Sasaki Kojiro, Sir Moody, The Stranger, Ultrawar or Zalmoxis. You may not include one from the list of potential victims either, even those you did not select for the kill.
If you manage to pull it off this night-phase, well done. The next nigh-phase would be acceptable as well, however.
You may mention to your fellow conspirators that this act is to bring you into the good graces of one of the crime families (and that they’re also eligible), but you may not mention the contents of this PM.
When you have arranged the conspiracy and sent a PM to Seamus Ferganagh indicating that you want to kill someone from the list of potential victims, PM AndrestheCunning back and ask him to deliver it to his Maffia contact, before Seamus Ferganagh posts the results. When you’ve completed your mission, we just might have a career opening for you.

Signed: a maffioso

I got this from Andres. I don't feel I'm capable of playing two games right now with things going as they are with my life. Atleast I found a mafioso this might even discourage them from trying to recruit other players. Do with it what you will what I have given. I think a GF resides in one of those bolded players.

**Crazed Rabbit** · 01-18-2007, 22:25

What? Are you serious? If you're a townie, you would've had to team up with some other people, you couldn't just attempt a kill yourself. Of course, the kill did fail, and perhaps too few townies was the cause.

Either you're joking or not, and it seems both choices are bad for the town, so
Vote: Ichigo
At least until further explaination.

Crazed Rabbit

**Csargo** · 01-18-2007, 22:29

Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit

What? Are you serious? If you're a townie, you would've had to team up with some other people, you couldn't just attempt a kill yourself. Of course, the kill did fail, and perhaps too few townies was the cause.

Either you're joking or not, and it seems both choices are bad for the town, so
Vote: Ichigo
At least until further explaination.

Crazed Rabbit

The next PM explains it.

**Crazed Rabbit** · 01-18-2007, 22:33

So it does. I guess you won't mind me voting for you.

Crazed Rabbit

**Pannonian** · 01-18-2007, 22:39

Ichigo is convincing enough for me. My only question is, if the 2nd PM is correct, why didn't you vote for AndrestheCunning? I await your explanation, but as of now,

Vote: AndrestheCunning

Edit: If you want to be killed off, suicide yourself instead of wasting a lynching.

**Csargo** · 01-18-2007, 22:28

Originally Posted by Pannonian

I have heard from various sources that GH was a pro-town role, which may mean that pro-mafia people may have got wind of it too. I'm not sure how much information on other players Seamus gives in the introductory PMs, and I suspect he wouldn't say even if I asked.

However, to kick off discussions, I will express my suspicions about you, Ichigo. In post #169, you encouraged us to select you as Director, warning us about Beirut's axe in the back. Now since Beirut's axe has no bearing on this game, I have to say this is classic meatballing. Combined with your eagerness to get an unkillable role, I would say you are mafia, possibly even a Don, looking for safety from other gangs while orchestrating the discussion. What says you to this?

Edit: Hyperlinking post #169.

That could be used against any of the other players that voted for themselves. Come up with some better reasons please I'de like to hear them.