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    Vote:Abstain

    This can become a war.Have you think in the fact the mafiosos can be from different nationalities?This is leading to nothing.
    Well, I will be following this from other place.




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    The Dutch thing wasn't meant very seriously, but like you, I'm stumped after the first round.

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    Lots of interesting theories developed, but none compelling.

    If we believe that Seamus is relating stories that include clues rather than just random descriptions (which I hope to be the case as it gives us something to chew over) then I am suspicious of Proletariat.

    Redleg's identification of Kagemusha's error brings him to the top of my list too, and the Kralizec theory has some, but not many legs.

    There is too little to go on for any certainty, and as I am known to be a soft touch for innocence, you won't be surprised to hear that I:

    Vote: No lynch
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    Maybe i should stop making myself look like i know stuff...


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    I have changed my mind on the lynch.Unvote Reenk Roink and Vote Kralizec
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    Quote Originally Posted by pevergreen
    I can say however, they are Dutch/Flemish. If they were on the list they did not say. Yes i am in contact with them.
    This person has told you that? You must be pretty gullible

    anyway:

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    vote: Kage

    Might as well try to lynch a wiseguy beofre he becomes a mafioso.
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    In the absence of any really compelling arguments, and not believing in Krazilec's guilt any more, I'm going to Vote: Reenk. He was on GH's list.
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    Unvote: Tribesy
    Vote: Kralizec


    Still makes the most sense so far, however little that is.

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    while I would like to remind everyone that Ichigo was involved in a bad killing as a possible made/wiseguy group and he deserves to be lynched, it doesn't look like my vote for him will get any result....this round.

    On that note, we need to lynch someone, anyone, so of the few people who have multiple votes I therefore:

    unvote: Ichigo
    Vote: Kralizec
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    Right, since Prole has at least made an effort to post in her defence, then I've decided to move my vote onto Reenk Roink for voting to lynch himself.

    Unvote: Proletariat
    Vote: Reenk Roink

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    Doc_Bean F
    Drisos D
    Dutch Guy D
    Kralizec D
    Moros (GertGregoor) F
    Peasant Phil F
    Stig D
    The Stranger D

    I took the liberty to run Andres' PM through a text-comparison program earlier today, and compared it to some posts I took from the Backroom from all of these guys. We can now safely assume it was not written by: Doc_Bean, Dutch Guy and The Stranger.
    It was most probably not written by Andres himself either. Also, why would Andres speak of himself in the third person: 'When you have arranged the conspiracy and sent a PM to Seamus Ferganagh indicating that you want to kill someone from the list of potential victims, PM AndrestheCunning back'. And on top of that, why would he misspell his own name? It's TheCunning, with capital 'T'.

    Drisos, Moros (GertGregoor) and Peasant Phil are long shots. It was most closely related to the writing style of Stig and Kralizec.

    Now the fun thing is, guess whose name was also on GH's mafia list?
    Reenk Roink
    Redleg
    Beirut
    Stig

    What says you to this, Stig?


    "you'll need to find 3 co-conspirators to carry out a succesful murder".
    Also, Kralizec, can you please explain why you, just like in the forged PM of your hand, always misspell successful as 'succesful'? And why you always spell mafia with double F too?
    None of the other Dutch speakers do both.

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    Yes, my friend, your French is not bad either. Better than the English of the PM. Your mafia friend nonetheless is dead meat though.


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    its funny that in a game this big the people who ask to be lynched get pushed to the back of the table so we can indulge in our conspiracy theories. Please, please, keep a list of all the suicidal players thus far, that way we don't even have to debate future lynchings.
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    Reenk Roink: About the only thing against him is his being on GH's list. The movement against him is pure bandwagon.

    Proletariat: I sincerely doubt that Seamus would write the kill descriptions in such a way as to reveal who was a mafia Don.

    Kralizec: Don't think the pm was written by him. He could have asked Andres to write it though. However, I've heard some pretty damning things about him through the grape vine.

    Unvote, Vote:Kralizec

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    Quote Originally Posted by ByzantineKnight
    Oh yah, I had forgotten about that, I don't think I agree with CrazedRabbit about it being a "insufficent members" attempted kill...

    If it was a Insufficent Member attempted kill then it would have been more like "She cried out and her attackers seeing that the townspeople were coming to her aid and they were not powerful enough to withstand the tide of newcomers; fled" or something like that (or Seamus might not even have mentioned the attack).

    If it was a doctor/surgeon save it would have said the doctor managed to heal her wounds or the like.

    It cannot be a self-save, thus I think, by elimination, that it must have been a Luca save. Which coincidentaly could have had that write-up.

    Right, I said this last post but I think it's needs to be reiterated. It doesn't follow in the slightest that the kill writeup reveals mafia. That's against the spirit of the game and Seamus has put too much thought into it to mess it up. Proletariat was saved by her luca or by a doctor I would think. I haven't read the kill description that closely but someone earlier mentioned a townie group that wasn't big enough being responsible for the failure.

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    unvote andres

    Vote abstain


    im lost...

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    Why do you guys hate me so much?

    I don't even have a clue what is going on in this game yet (currently on Page 12) and I'm a major lynch suspect and I don't even know why?

    Let me leave you all with a bit of advice:

    Don't kill strippers...

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    I would be willing to bet that the detectives were given the names of at least a few innocents so they had the chance to organize a townie protection squad. It would make sense afterall. There are many ways people can be targeted and saved.
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    Et tu, Sasaki?


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    What does that mean I don't speak Japanese
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    What says you to this, Stig?
    Whatever I say I will give my role away.
    If I say GH is right I will get lynched
    If I say he's wrong I can get killed

    All I can say is:
    I didn't do anything last night, I slept, which means I can still be anyone

    It was most closely related to the writing style of Stig and Kralizec.
    Sorry, but have you ever read any of my posts?
    Last edited by Stig; 01-19-2007 at 19:09.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stig


    Sorry, but have you ever read any of my posts?
    He put it in some sort of program, right ? That would mean he would not have had to read any of them

    However, I daresay he has read a lot of your posts.

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    Vote: Abstain. Courteously!

    I'm not very good at this...

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    vote: No Lynch

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    Noone's voted for me yet.

    I feel left out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
    Right, I said this last post but I think it's needs to be reiterated. It doesn't follow in the slightest that the kill writeup reveals mafia. That's against the spirit of the game and Seamus has put too much thought into it to mess it up. Proletariat was saved by her luca or by a doctor I would think. I haven't read the kill description that closely but someone earlier mentioned a townie group that wasn't big enough being responsible for the failure.
    As a matter of game mechanics (mentioned in the role sheets):

    1. Any attempt to kill someone will generate part of the narrative for that night.

    2. ANY of the following could generate a narrative of a failed murder:

    a) Protection by a Doctor

    b) Protection by a Luca

    c) Protection by a Surgeon [chance for would be killer to die]

    d) Protection by a Townie Group

    e) Attack by a group lacking sufficient numbers or the right type of role-players to effectively perform the attack. In the case of a Townie operating solo, the kill not only fails, but the Townie has a 1 in 3 chance of ending up dead. The same is true of a failed solo effort at protection.

    f) Specia effects associated with one of the Secret roles.

    3. My narratives will allude to some of these possibilities, but well never do so in a fashion that is definitive. This is, after all, more "film noir" than documentary....
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    Day Two Voting Closed -- Evening Meeting/Lynch to follow as soon as written up.
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    Ask the Green Man where he comes from, ask the cup that fills with red.
    Ask the old grey standing stones who show the sun his way to bed.
    Question all as to their ways, and learn the secrets that they hold.

    -- Ian Anderson, 1977


    Sunset, Day Two

    Beirut looked up from his recount of the votes. He seemed to gulp, then straightened himself and spoke clearly,

    Kralizec…”

    Kralizec looked up in shock at his name.

    “…you have received the most votes from the committee and are hereby condemned. Do you wish to be hanged or to meet the axe?"

    “This is insane,” shouted Kralizec! He jumped to his feet. Others rose as well.

    “But the plurality of votes is yours, according to the procedures TosaInu outlined, you are the one who must die.”

    Kralizec turned to leave. “I’m outta here!”

    But the path was blocked. He faced a thick semi-circle of faces – some confused, a few carefully “neutral” – but could not step past.

    “I didn’t send those messages! You gotta believe me…”

    He backed up, but the committee pushed forward. Kralizec raced for a door at the back of the room, bursting through it to find himself on the balcony overlooking the boardwalk. The others rushed after him.

    He leapt the railing and the 12’ down to the boardwalk, but landed poorly, his ankle snapping with an audible <>. Hobbled, he couldn’t race away from the others fast enough to make a break for it. He hopped and ran, pain shooting up his leg with every motion, but the mob piled out of the back doors after him and soon had him hemmed in at the end of the amusement pier – now closed for the winter.


    “Face your death with dignity, Kralizec,” said Beirut, trying to maintain a sense of decorum – but only just fending off the mob behind him.

    “I didn’t send those messages!”

    A voice from the back muttered, “But we don’t care.”

    Kralizec’s face fell, then took on the sense of dignity Beirut called for.

    “Then I’ll see you all in Hell.”

    Before Beirut or the others could close the gap, Kralizec swung himself over the far railing and plummeted 30 feet into the water.

    With a broken ankle, he could not swim well; certainly not well enough to counter the rip tide this storm had created. Within 10 minutes he was dead. Exposure? Drowning? No one would ever be sure. The remains that washed up on Staten Island 12 days later were only identified via fingerprints.

    Shivering with cold, the chastened mob who had just watched Kralizec fade into the mist, struggling and failing against the tide, returned to the meeting room at the convention center.

    When they returned, they were all stunned to find Ichigo lying on the floor. He had been shot between the eyes sometime during the mad rush to chase Kralizec. A note was pinned to his lapel – one of those mafia recruiting notes. On the back was written: “Walloon sympathizers beware. We will not be anyone’s fall guys anymore.” It was signed AndrestheCunning.

    Stunned, the entire group was standing around in shock when Chief Fermanagh strode in.


    “What’s all this then?”

    After a few minutes of discussion, and an even longer time while the body was removed, the Chief stood at the lectern facing the chastened group.

    “I hope you got one of them Gangsters this evening. I pray God you did.”

    Seamus paused.

    “But I suspect it’s not enough. I’m virtually certain based on last nights shenanigans that there’re more than one of them to be dealt with. You’ll have to keep the Committee going.”

    Banquo’s Ghost looked as though he were nauseated...but said nothing.

    “I must also report yet another death,” said Seamus. “A couple of my lads were over at the “Six Still in Chains” pub this afternoon. They’d gone in to get…uh…sandwiches when they found Tribesman collapsed in a corner booth. It’s pretty dark back there, so nobody had seen him. Apparently, he came in last night, ordered a case of Tullamore Dew, and then drank the lot. One witness said she’d seen him sitting there downing a shotglass, muttering “Slainte,” and then repeating it as fast as he could. The coroner confirmed acute alcohol poisoning and we’re holding the witness to question why she didn’t call for help, but it appears he’d had enough and just drank himself to death.”

    A few indistinct murmers answered him.

    “Good luck tonight – the police’ll do what we can. We’ll meet again tomorrow. Beirut will oversee tomorrows voting and we’ll also conduct the vote for his replacement.”

    Fermanagh exited quickly, a look of worried concern on his face.


    OOC:

    The Specifics Thus Far:

    Murdered: GeneralHankerchief (N1)

    Attacked: Proletariat (N1), Sasaki Kojiro (N1)

    Lynched: Kralizec (D2)

    Suicided: Ichigo (D2), Tribesman (D2)

    WoGged: Nobody, and please keep it that way

    Voting Specifics – Day Two Session

    Abstain = 14 (Aggony Duck, Caius Flaminius, CountArach, Cowhead418, Destroyer of Hope, dutch_guy, Ichigo, Ironside, Ituralde, Masy, Omanes Alexandropolites, Sir Moody, Xdeathfire, Zalmoxis)

    Kralizec = 10 (AggonyDuck, Crazed Rabbit, Kagemusha, Kommodus, Luigi VI de Fatlington, Major Robert Dump, Orb, Proletariat, Sasaki Kojiro, Sigurd Fafnesbane)

    Reenk Roink = 5 (Big King Sanctaphrax, HughTower, Kralizec, Pannonian, Reenk Roink!)

    No Lynch = 3 (Banquo’s Ghost, Redleg, The Stranger)

    AndrestheCunning = 3 (JimBob, Sir Boo, Warluster)

    Proletariat = 2 (ByzantineKinght, Stig)

    Beirut = 1 (Tom_Hagen)

    Ichigo = 1 (UltraWar)

    Kagemusha = 1 (doc_bean)

    Redleg = 1 (pevergreen -- e.e.cummings style this time)

    Not Voting = 14 (Beirut [director], Copperhaired Bezerker, Drisos, Hepcat, Ignoramus, MarcusBrutus, Moros, Papewaio, Peasant Phil, Pindar, theRTWGuru, Tribesman, Xiahou)

    No PM & No Votes = CH Bezerker (limited posts), MarcusBrutus (limited posts), Moros (no contact), Papewaio (no contact). Please help these folks back into the swing if possible.

    AndrestheCunning should PM me and I’ll swot up a role for him! He was almost lynched in absentia!

    Please note, both suicides were at the request of the players themselves, the rest is narration.


    PM’s for night session #2 if you please – FROM EVERYONE please. Night session #2 will conclude at 2000 HRS EST, 1/20/7. (Longer time limit with weekend present).

    Sasaki, kindly add this to the information thread. Thank you.
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    HAH!, no vote for me! survived round 2... i think im getting a tattoo > II and add I for every round...

    ill keep posting this...

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    What does it mean?

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