Capo de Tutti Capi [Concluded]

[The Stranger]

Masy, you only added to the Tally, you must also make the vote (with Bold).

You might not know, but I've only helped the town sofar...

[Motep]

Looks like the Stanger has a large fanbase...

Vote: Beirut.... got nothin better to do., might as well hop on a wagon for now.


Select: Redleg...he needs protection

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Lynch:
Motep-2 (Sasaki, CountArach)
pevergreen-1 (DoH)
Abstain-6 (BK, OmanesAlexandrapolites, Caius, HughTower, Redleg, Lord Motep)
The_Stranger-6 (Orb, Banquo's Ghost, Warluster, MRD, pevergreen, BKS)
Beirut-11 (doc_bean,Moros, Cowhead418, Pannonian, AggonyDuck,The Stranger, Ituralde, Drisos, Dutch_guy, Ironside, Motep)


Director:
DoH-1 (DoH)
Redleg-12 (CountArach, The Stranger, pevergreen, Pannonian, BK, doc_bean, Banquo's Ghost, AggonyDuck, Ituralde, Cowhead418, Drisos, Ironside)
Banquo's Ghost-(OmanesAlexandrapolites)
Sasaki-1(Caius)
Abstain-3 (Hughtower, Dutch_guy, Redleg)
No-one - 1 (Motep)

[Masy]

Masy, you only added to the Tally, you must also make the vote (with Bold).

Oopsie, edited.

[Pannonian]

Latest vote tally.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Vote Tally:
Lynch:
Motep-2 (Sasaki, CountArach)
pevergreen-1 (DoH)
Abstain-6 (BK, OmanesAlexandrapolites, Caius, HughTower, Redleg, Tom_Hagen)
The_Stranger-7 (Orb, Banquo's Ghost, Warluster, MRD, pevergreen, BKS, Masy)
Beirut-11 (doc_bean, Moros, Cowhead418, Pannonian, AggonyDuck,The Stranger, Ituralde, Drisos, Dutch_guy, Ironside, Motep)


Director:
DoH-1 (DoH)
Redleg-15 (CountArach, The Stranger, pevergreen, Pannonian, BK, doc_bean, Banquo's Ghost, AggonyDuck, Ituralde, Cowhead418, Drisos, Ironside, Masy, Motep, Tom_Hagen)
Banquo's Ghost-1 (OmanesAlexandrapolites)
Sasaki-1 (Caius)
Abstain-3 (Hughtower, Dutch_guy, Redleg)

[Moros]

Thanks Pannonian.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Oopsie, edited.

I detected no bold vote only the bolded selection.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Looks like beirut's going to buy it. When does voting end?

[Moros]

Seamus, when is the day going to be over?
edit: lol.

[Redleg]

Now I have not seen any evidence of Beriut being anything else then a townie, going on the innocent until proven guilty. What is going on behind the PM and private discussions I don't have any information. Yes Kralizec two posts could be damning but I did not see the initial post before it was removed by Kralizec. The individuals who saw the post can drive the discussion around that, and a proper determination might be reached - or as noted above an investigation by a detective could determine the results. Frankly given the mistaken post by Kralizec, [b]Beirut[b]should be on the short list. Hince my abstain versus a vote on no lynch. Beirut's only defense is to point out that the game is one of misdirection. Which is valid, if not a complete answer to the questions posed by Kralizec's post. Does it warrent his lynching - I don't believe so, until futher information comes forward.

Now I attempted to arrange two protection groups last night on two seperate individuals. I am fairily sure that one was done, since I spent some time attempting to arrange it. Now in my efforts to arrange these protection groups did I stumble, and sent a message to someone that was playing both sides against the middle. Very possible, but I still don't have sufficcent proof to make any allegations against anyone that I PM for those missions. I suspect the hit was based upon the initial analysis of the message sent by Andres. At this stage I would like to take a look at all the PM's sent out by Andres to determine a pattern, but that is most likely an un-realistic expectation. But if I was a detective I would be investigation each name on that list, there is a valuable clue contained in that message that might lead us to one of the mafia members, or it could be just a red herring to strike confusion and wast the townie's time. Which at this stage of the game would indeed be a waste of the detective's time, which is why they should indeed wait until several more nights bring about other possiblities to cross-check. So to ignore the list would be incorrect, but it should not be used to determine innocence or guilt. Which means that my actions should be suspect until a determination by a detective or as demonstrated last night a successful murder on myself. Then my roll will actually be determined. Which is indeed a townie.

GH information is cloudly at best, and misdirection the most likely possiblity. I made a criticial mistake in sending GH the PM that describes my role as a townie, to demonstrated to him that my role is not a mafia one. This was before the posting that GH was indeed a Luca. Critical error - which is probably the most viable of the reasons why I was targeted last knight. One other individual has been given that PM, but I believe he is innocent of any attempt. Which places us back into the role of GH and his contacts. If I understand this game correctly the Luca knows who his Don is. Dead players can and do provide information that is useful to one side or another.

The short list of investigation should indeed be the list provided by GH which lists the possible mafia players.

Reenk Roink, Redleg, Beirut, Stig

Stig is deceased. That leaves three individuals to be investigated. If the detectives believe my claim of being a townie, or at minimul an individual determined for a townie, victory that leaves two to be investigated which is easily accomplished. Then the other names on GH post must be looked at also.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=317

I told the following people this role: Kagemusha and Pannonian. I believe Kage may have told some others such as Caius Flaminius. Kagemusha claims the role of wiseguy. Pannonian claims townie.

and

Kage approached me in the chat about forming a townie kill group. The four of us were myself, him, Caius, and Sigurd. Our first target was to be Sasaki, but Kage called it off for the first night to wait and see what would happen.

So in his role as Luca and his attempt at misdirection GH has provided another set of valuable clues.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Seamus, when is the day going to be over?
edit: lol.

I already asked that, Jeez!




Vote:Beirut

Three scum down, 6 to go. And maybe some wise guys. If they were really wise they'd join the town though.

[Stig]

@Ituralde:
Who killed me, well if I would be a detective investigating my own death I would start with 2 persons. The Stranger and Pevergreen.

The Stranger:
He contacted somewhere last day about GH's list (not as The_Don but as himself). He would get me protected if I would drop that that list was correct. I didn't do that so he got me killed as I had no use anyway. Or it was a trick and he was planning to kill me anyway, as he was working with GH and that list was their hitlist.

Pevergreen:
GH really wanted him as Director, as he was a newbie, well I'm a newbie why not me? GH was a Luca, and some think Pever is a Don, well mostlikely GH's Don if he is one imo. Same here, GH's list was a hitlist. Redleg was on it too, and he was attacked, strange no?

Pevergreen and Stranger might actually be working together but I don't know anything about that.

[Masy]

I detected no bold vote only the bolded selection.

See it now?

[Moros]

I already asked that, Jeez!




Vote:Beirut

Three scum down, 6 to go. And maybe some wise guys. If they were really wise they'd join the town though.

Hey we posted at the same time, how could I know, and I even edited lmy post within the minute!

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Hey we posted at the same time, how could I know, and I even edited lmy post within the minute!

Yes, hence the bouncing joke smiley.

[Moros]

you have a strange sense of humour, if you ask me.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

FYI

All votes must be made no later than 0200 EST 1/22/7.


This was in the last write up and also in the info thread. Not really hiding anything. I'm dunking you all in enough ambiguity without that!


I'm using a 30 hour window in deference to the weekend and requests for more time to consider.


I'll probably be asleep when it goes final and post my write up 8-10a EST when I have a few moments.

[Moros]

Couldn't you make days during the week longer than during the weekend. I think most have more time during weekends than during the week. I know I have.

[Louis VI the Fat]

Vote: Beirut

Select: Redleg

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Vote Tally:
Lynch:
Motep-2 (Sasaki, CountArach)
pevergreen-1 (DoH)
Abstain-6 (BK, OmanesAlexandrapolites, Caius, HughTower, Redleg, Tom_Hagen)
The_Stranger-7 (Orb, Banquo's Ghost, Warluster, MRD, pevergreen, BKS, Masy)
Beirut-13 (Sasaki Kojiro, Luigi Vi di Fatlington, doc_bean, Moros, Cowhead418, Pannonian, AggonyDuck,The Stranger, Ituralde, Drisos, Dutch_guy, Ironside, Motep)


Director:
DoH-1 (DoH)
Redleg-16 (Luigi VI di Fatlington, CountArach, The Stranger, pevergreen, Pannonian, BK, doc_bean, Banquo's Ghost, AggonyDuck, Ituralde, Cowhead418, Drisos, Ironside, Masy, Motep, Tom_Hagen)
Banquo's Ghost-1 (OmanesAlexandrapolites)
Sasaki-1 (Caius)
Abstain-3 (Hughtower, Dutch_guy, Redleg)

Let's just keep the 24-hour days. I was pressed for time last week too, but at least a 24h schedule is predictable.

[CountArach]

Unvote: Motep
Vote: Beirut

I have a feeling that Krazilec was just faking it, but well... there is only one way to know...

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Vote Tally:
Lynch:
Motep-1 (Sasaki)
pevergreen-1 (DoH)
Abstain-6 (BK, OmanesAlexandrapolites, Caius, HughTower, Redleg, Tom_Hagen)
The_Stranger-7 (Orb, Banquo's Ghost, Warluster, MRD, pevergreen, BKS, Masy)
Beirut-14 (Sasaki Kojiro, Luigi Vi di Fatlington, doc_bean, Moros, Cowhead418, Pannonian, AggonyDuck,The Stranger, Ituralde, Drisos, Dutch_guy, Ironside, Motep, CountArach)


Director:
DoH-1 (DoH)
Redleg-15 (CountArach, The Stranger, pevergreen, Pannonian, BK, doc_bean, Banquo's Ghost, AggonyDuck, Ituralde, Cowhead418, Drisos, Ironside, Masy, Motep, Tom_Hagen)
Banquo's Ghost-1 (OmanesAlexandrapolites)
Sasaki-1 (Caius)
Abstain-3 (Hughtower, Dutch_guy, Redleg)

EDIT: Bolded my votes...

[Lord Winter]

Saskii, whats the code for that bandwagon smilly of yours?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Saskii, whats the code for that bandwagon smilly of yours?

It's a imageshack link:

https://img258.imageshack.us/img258/...ndwagonqr2.gif




This looks like a bandwagon and maybe some people are, but mostly we are going off of info heard through the PM grapevine. Interesting thing about this game, no one has come under major suspicion for in thread activities. It's all been outside. Very untraditional in that way.

[Pannonian]

This looks like a bandwagon and maybe some people are, but mostly we are going off of info heard through the PM grapevine. Interesting thing about this game, no one has come under major suspicion for in thread activities. It's all been outside. Very untraditional in that way.

It might be a good idea to send Seamus regular summaries of our PM activities so he can do a good writeup at the end. I've sent one describing everything that's happened until today.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Yeah, I've sent him a couple.

I don't envy him on the write up though.

[Beirut]

T'is cold outside I feel the breath
Of icy winds and chilly death
I'm set upon by drunken gang
With thoughts of innocent men to hang
When I'm gone you'll feel the guilt
For the wretched gallows that you've built
Though hanged I'll be t'is not the end
For I will return right round the bend
And who amongst all who will feel the danger
Is my back stabbing "Vote Beirut" son, that shmuck, The Stranger

[Warluster]

um, I think I will change my vote, I still believe you Mafia though Stranger!

Unvote:The_Stranger
Vote:Beirut

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Vote Tally:
Lynch:
Motep-1 (Sasaki)
pevergreen-1 (DoH)
Abstain-6 (BK, OmanesAlexandrapolites, Caius, HughTower, Redleg, Tom_Hagen)
The_Stranger- (Orb, Banquo's Ghost, , MRD, pevergreen, BKS, Masy)
Beirut-15 (Sasaki Kojiro, Luigi Vi di Fatlington, doc_bean, Moros, Cowhead418, Pannonian, AggonyDuck,The Stranger, Ituralde, Drisos, Dutch_guy, Ironside, Motep, CountArach,Warluster)


Director:
DoH-1 (DoH)
Redleg-15 (CountArach, The Stranger, pevergreen, Pannonian, BK, doc_bean, Banquo's Ghost, AggonyDuck, Ituralde, Cowhead418, Drisos, Ironside, Masy, Motep, Tom_Hagen)
Banquo's Ghost-1 (OmanesAlexandrapolites)
Sasaki-1 (Caius)
Abstain-3 (Hughtower, Dutch_guy, Redleg)

[pevergreen]

So, if what other people are saying is true, your dying command will be that the stranger shan't live?

I am apprehensive about putting my detective PM out, as to my new mind, it just allows the mafia a hold of another role pm. Anyway, is it any proof i am a detective. Look at GH.

I dont deny being in contact with him, i was to figure out what a good course of action was, as this is my first mafia game. I went to him because "Any opinion [Sasaki] gives on the matter is suspicious"--Crazed Rabbit

And GH is in KOTR. So i had someone to guide me.

As for now? Well i hope not to be lynched, orkilled in the night phase.

If someone could pm me the most likely mafia candidates, i could investigate them tonight?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Personally I agree about not posting the pm. Any later mafia could claim detective with impunity.

I'm not in favor if pevergreen taking private suggestions though, I think it should be public who he is going to investigate, and decided by the town. He can then provide us with the results. After a few rounds we should be able to judge whether these results are accurate--say he says someone is innocent tomorrow, and in a few days time that person is killed and revealed to be criminal. Or if he says someone is innocent and they are a wise guy working for the town, they can reveal him for mafia.

[pevergreen]

I agree with that. Seems a fair way to judge me.

[Pannonian]

Since Beirut is going to hang this round, and there are 3 prime suspects, the logical thing for pevergreen to do would be to investigate the other two. That is, The_Stranger and Motep. Give us the results, and we'll hang them both. By the 3rd day, when pevergreen is due to go, we'll have the autopsy for the first of the three. If that result is confirmed, he'll survive for one more day until the second autopsy is done. If either of those results contradicts his investigation, he hangs.

Also, list your results so far so we can have something to look at.

[pevergreen]

I did, ive only investigated two people.

I was in a protection group first night.