Capo de Tutti Capi [Concluded]

[Csargo]

There.

How did you investigate two people?

[ByzantineKnight]

How did you investigate two people?

Can't Detectives Investigate two people?

EDIT: Papewaio you have the list wrong

pevergreen - 7 (Kagemusha,Crazed Rabbit,AndresTheCunning, Sasaki, Xiahou, Papewaio, Destroyer of Hope)
AndresTheCunning - 4 ( Luigi VI di Fatlington, Moros, CountArach, BKS)
luigi VI di Fatlington - 1 (Omanes Alexandrapolites)
ByzantineKnight - 1 (doc_bean)
Abstain - 3 (Alexander, ByzantineKnight, Kommodus)
Sasaki - 2 (pevergreen, Pannonian)
Reenk Roink - 1 (Reenk Roink)
No Lynch - 1 (Caius)

[Csargo]

Can't Detectives Investigate two people?

EDIT: Papewaio you have the list wrong

pevergreen - 7 (Kagemusha,Crazed Rabbit,AndresTheCunning, Sasaki, Xiahou, Papewaio, Destroyer of Hope)
AndresTheCunning - 5 ( Luigi VI di Fatlington, Moros, CountArach, BKS)
luigi VI di Fatlington - 1 (Omanes Alexandrapolites)
ByzantineKnight - 1 (doc_bean)
Abstain - 4 (Alexander, ByzantineKnight, Destroyer of Hope, Kommodus)
Sasaki - 2 (pevergreen, Pannonian)
Reenk Roink - 1 (Reenk Roink)
No Lynch - 1 (Caius)

Ah yes forgot about that.

[Redleg]

Lets call this message The Patsy Lashes Out

Going back to the post that initially analysis the message from Andres we have a list of names that could be complete or not complete based upon how many people were on this list.

Beirut -lynched
Byzantine Knight
Cowhead
Doc Bean
Hepcat
Hughtower
Ichigo - suicide
Ignoramus
Kommandus
Kralizec – lynched turns out to be a Don
Pevergreen
Proletariat
Redleg
Reenk Roink
Sasaki Kojiro
Sir Moody
The Stranger
Ultrawar
Zalmoxis
Banquo's Ghost
Sigurd Fafnesbane
General Handkerchief – murdered


Then we take General Handkerchief’s claim about who was suppose to be mafia. Given that we know now that he was a Luca.

Reenk Roink
Redleg
Beirut waiting on results of final autopsy
Stig – murdered but informed was a criminal not mafia


Edit:
So given the nature of this information and the status of General Handerchief maybe we should ignore his claims. The release of the autosphy after the next night phase will shed light on General Handerchief's claim. For now we know that he was wrong on one.

General Hankerchief has played us all for Patsy's with this claim.

Then from Stig’s Post

Dutch Guy
Krazilec
Doc Bean
Moras
The Stranger
Stig - not on list.

Also in General Handkercheif post he also provides other names and a few claims.

Kagemusha - is claimed to be a wiseguy
Pannonian - is claimed to have known GH was a doctor
Caius Flaminius - might have been told by Kagemusha
Sigurd Fafnesbane - claimed by GH to be a townie kill group

Now lets take some other information pieces that have been posted in the thread.:


There was a misstep – by one individual in his post that he attempted to correct, but its not a very good one.

Seamus would'nt add him to one family, it would be unfair to the others, mabye if there was three.

If he was added to my family I would know about it.

I think this is wrong

beirut-mafia
kralizec-mafia

Kralizec might be mafia, but beirut is probably not. I think it was a frame up.

EDIT: By family I mean if i was part of a mafia family (as opposed to a townie family)

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=836

Was this a mistake in explaining a position, or was it stumble, revealing a role, and then an attempt to hide that stumble.

Then there was this little exchange between three individuals

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=873

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=874

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=875

I wonder if The Stranger, ByzantineKnight, or Caius Flaminius would care to enlighten what was edited out of the posts so quickly?

Now there are a few other's that might have played me for a Patsy but I will address them later. I hate to see a bandwagon begin to roll without this little exchange being explained in just a tad more detail.

And then I just love the two accusations PM to me about being mafia that was sent to me. I wonder what [b]MRD's[b] autosphy is going to show? Based upon that autosphy I just might have a candidate for a lynching - either myself, or someone that is attempting to misdirect and mislead. Only time will tell.

[ByzantineKnight]

I wonder if The Stranger, ByzantineKnight, or Caius Flaminius would care to enlighten what was edited out of the posts so quickly?

Stig could tell you as well, Someone asked what we should do to keep him alive. I accidentally mentioned (in the thread) that there was a protection group for pevergreen.

EDIT: And about my misclarification:

Was this a mistake in explaining a position, or was it stumble, revealing a role, and then an attempt to hide that stumble.

I was born in Ohio and at around 6 months later I we moved to Canada where we lived for a few years. At 6 years old we moved to the Phillipines and lived there for 6 months. When I was around 7 we moved to India, we have been living here (on and off) for 8 years, I think some of you will agree, I might not have had a very easy time adjusting to moving so often (every 6 months we have to leave the country for a day or so). I also think that growing up in so many different cultures might have had an adverse affect on my social skills (to say nothing of my spelling), sometimes I respond in the way people would in India and offend people, sometimes it is the opposite.
But my point is that I do not communicate in the same way as some of you and react differentaly.

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

I have my suspicions, but for now I change my vote:
Unvote: luigi VI di Fatlington
Vote: Abstain

For now I don't know who to vote for. I fear pevergreen being mafia, but I need more evidence before I wish him to be lynched.

[The Stranger]

I vote Pevergreen for now. Why? First he said I was Criminal and later in the PM I'm shown as Innocent. Also... that's not how a detective PM seamus sends you looks like.

Originally Posted by Seamus
Results from Night 3 Investigations:

Sasaki Kojiro shows as Criminal
The Stranger shows as Innocent

Vote: Pevergreen

Also, I'd like to call Doc_Bean to the stand, PLEASE, what is your role? Are you a townie?

To redleg, BK posted that Pevergreen had protection. CAius quoted and said he was stupid. I tolde them to edit their posts. Maybe Pever wasnt attacked because mafia saw that, or maybe he's a Made. which i believe now.

pevergreen - 8 (Kagemusha,Crazed Rabbit,AndresTheCunning, Sasaki, Xiahou, Papewaio, Destroyer of Hope)
AndresTheCunning - 4 ( Luigi VI di Fatlington, Moros, CountArach, BKS)
ByzantineKnight - 1 (doc_bean)
Abstain - 4 (Alexander, ByzantineKnight, Kommodus, Omanes Alexandrapolites)
Sasaki - 2 (pevergreen, Pannonian)
Reenk Roink - 1 (Reenk Roink)
No Lynch - 1 (Caius)

[Pannonian]

Stig could tell you as well, Someone asked what we should do to keep him alive. I accidentally mentioned (in the thread) that there was a protection group for pevergreen.

I can confirm this, and this is partly why my suspicions of The_Stranger have lessened. That said, a Don can participate in protection groups, so that doesn't clear him entirely.

[Death Match]

I am sorry, my stupid internet browser keeps shutting down as soon as i have enough time to post on my upcoming game. question: am I dead?

[Pannonian]

I wonder what [b]MRD's[b] autosphy is going to show?

If it helps, my very first conversation in this game was with MRD, his PM arriving soon after my townie PM. Here it is with the subsequent replies.

Tell me who you want me to recruit/investigate. I can't kill anyone until we get another wiseguy/made. I suggest Hanky spend his turns protecting you.

snip email address

What info did you get in your PM? I don't really want to commit myself until I know more about what's going on. It's the first time I've played one of the more complicated games.

I'm a wiseguy, but I don't know who the others are except you, and GH is the doctor. I need 2 other wiseguys to make kills, or 3 townies for a townie kill. I don't want to join a family unless I have to, I'd rather us wiseguys start a new family

Based on this, I PMed GH.

I know this seems a bit forward or even rude to ask, but are you a doctor? I've received info from somewhere indicating you might be something of the sort.

Ugh, I thought I told Kage not to tell anybody...

Yeah, I'm a doc. Please don't broadcast it though. What about you?

Would you believe me if I told you I'm a townie? BTW, was it only Kagemusha that you told? What is Kage?

Well, you're obviously fishing for roles so I don't really trust you, but nobody trusts anyone in this game so I guess it's okay.

As far as telling others, I think I only told Kage (he claims he is a wiseguy btw), but there might have been someone else. Kage sticks out.

It's my first try at a more complicated game (my only two were M3 and M5), so I'm cautious until I can figure it out. I've had someone approach me claiming to be a wiseguy, so I'm confused already.

Just snipping for readability's sake.

Based on that, I later tried to organise a protection squad with MRD and Kage. Unsuccessfully, as MRD replied too late to coordinate efforts (I PMed MRD with the direct proposal but not Kage, since I'd had direct contact with MRD), while Kage only replied to my general proposal "Wanna turn clean?" a day or so after the deadline.

So I was played like a fool by GH, but what are MRD and Kage?

[Warluster]

You can investigate two people a night ( Cant you? )
I feel reluctant to believe that so-called 'PM' you put up Pevergreen, if it was a real PM, then wouldn't it have Seamus's full title? And why would you just 'Throw' out the info?