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    Quote Originally Posted by pevergreen
    There.
    How did you investigate two people?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ichigo
    How did you investigate two people?
    Can't Detectives Investigate two people?

    EDIT: Papewaio you have the list wrong

    pevergreen - 7 (Kagemusha,Crazed Rabbit,AndresTheCunning, Sasaki, Xiahou, Papewaio, Destroyer of Hope)
    AndresTheCunning - 4 ( Luigi VI di Fatlington, Moros, CountArach, BKS)
    luigi VI di Fatlington - 1 (Omanes Alexandrapolites)
    ByzantineKnight - 1 (doc_bean)
    Abstain - 3 (Alexander, ByzantineKnight, Kommodus)
    Sasaki - 2 (pevergreen, Pannonian)
    Reenk Roink - 1 (Reenk Roink)
    No Lynch - 1 (Caius)
    Last edited by ByzantineKnight; 01-24-2007 at 07:13.
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    Default Re: Capo de Tutti Capi (in play)

    Quote Originally Posted by ByzantineKnight
    Can't Detectives Investigate two people?

    EDIT: Papewaio you have the list wrong

    pevergreen - 7 (Kagemusha,Crazed Rabbit,AndresTheCunning, Sasaki, Xiahou, Papewaio, Destroyer of Hope)
    AndresTheCunning - 5 ( Luigi VI di Fatlington, Moros, CountArach, BKS)
    luigi VI di Fatlington - 1 (Omanes Alexandrapolites)
    ByzantineKnight - 1 (doc_bean)
    Abstain - 4 (Alexander, ByzantineKnight, Destroyer of Hope, Kommodus)
    Sasaki - 2 (pevergreen, Pannonian)
    Reenk Roink - 1 (Reenk Roink)
    No Lynch - 1 (Caius)
    Ah yes forgot about that.
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    Lets call this message The Patsy Lashes Out

    Going back to the post that initially analysis the message from Andres we have a list of names that could be complete or not complete based upon how many people were on this list.

    Beirut -lynched
    Byzantine Knight
    Cowhead
    Doc Bean
    Hepcat
    Hughtower
    Ichigo - suicide
    Ignoramus
    Kommandus
    Kralizec – lynched turns out to be a Don
    Pevergreen
    Proletariat
    Redleg
    Reenk Roink
    Sasaki Kojiro
    Sir Moody
    The Stranger
    Ultrawar
    Zalmoxis
    Banquo's Ghost
    Sigurd Fafnesbane
    General Handkerchiefmurdered


    Then we take General Handkerchief’s claim about who was suppose to be mafia. Given that we know now that he was a Luca.

    Reenk Roink
    Redleg
    Beirut waiting on results of final autopsy
    Stig – murdered but informed was a criminal not mafia


    Edit:
    So given the nature of this information and the status of General Handerchief maybe we should ignore his claims. The release of the autosphy after the next night phase will shed light on General Handerchief's claim. For now we know that he was wrong on one.

    General Hankerchief has played us all for Patsy's with this claim.

    Then from Stig’s Post

    Dutch Guy
    Krazilec
    Doc Bean
    Moras
    The Stranger
    Stig - not on list.

    Also in General Handkercheif post he also provides other names and a few claims.

    Kagemusha - is claimed to be a wiseguy
    Pannonian - is claimed to have known GH was a doctor
    Caius Flaminius - might have been told by Kagemusha
    Sigurd Fafnesbane - claimed by GH to be a townie kill group

    Now lets take some other information pieces that have been posted in the thread.:


    There was a misstep – by one individual in his post that he attempted to correct, but its not a very good one.

    Quote Originally Posted by ByzantineKnight
    Seamus would'nt add him to one family, it would be unfair to the others, mabye if there was three.

    If he was added to my family I would know about it.

    I think this is wrong

    beirut-mafia
    kralizec-mafia

    Kralizec might be mafia, but beirut is probably not. I think it was a frame up.

    EDIT: By family I mean if i was part of a mafia family (as opposed to a townie family)
    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=836

    Was this a mistake in explaining a position, or was it stumble, revealing a role, and then an attempt to hide that stumble.

    Then there was this little exchange between three individuals

    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=873

    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=874

    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=875

    I wonder if The Stranger, ByzantineKnight, or Caius Flaminius would care to enlighten what was edited out of the posts so quickly?

    Now there are a few other's that might have played me for a Patsy but I will address them later. I hate to see a bandwagon begin to roll without this little exchange being explained in just a tad more detail.

    And then I just love the two accusations PM to me about being mafia that was sent to me. I wonder what [b]MRD's[b] autosphy is going to show? Based upon that autosphy I just might have a candidate for a lynching - either myself, or someone that is attempting to misdirect and mislead. Only time will tell.
    Last edited by Redleg; 01-24-2007 at 07:51.
    O well, seems like 'some' people decide to ruin a perfectly valid threat. Nice going guys... doc bean

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redleg
    I wonder if The Stranger, ByzantineKnight, or Caius Flaminius would care to enlighten what was edited out of the posts so quickly?
    Stig could tell you as well, Someone asked what we should do to keep him alive. I accidentally mentioned (in the thread) that there was a protection group for pevergreen.

    EDIT: And about my misclarification:

    Quote Originally Posted by Redleg
    Was this a mistake in explaining a position, or was it stumble, revealing a role, and then an attempt to hide that stumble.
    I was born in Ohio and at around 6 months later I we moved to Canada where we lived for a few years. At 6 years old we moved to the Phillipines and lived there for 6 months. When I was around 7 we moved to India, we have been living here (on and off) for 8 years, I think some of you will agree, I might not have had a very easy time adjusting to moving so often (every 6 months we have to leave the country for a day or so). I also think that growing up in so many different cultures might have had an adverse affect on my social skills (to say nothing of my spelling), sometimes I respond in the way people would in India and offend people, sometimes it is the opposite.
    But my point is that I do not communicate in the same way as some of you and react differentaly.
    Last edited by ByzantineKnight; 01-24-2007 at 07:57.
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    I have my suspicions, but for now I change my vote:
    Unvote: luigi VI di Fatlington
    Vote: Abstain

    For now I don't know who to vote for. I fear pevergreen being mafia, but I need more evidence before I wish him to be lynched.
    Last edited by Omanes Alexandrapolites; 01-24-2007 at 08:35.
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    I vote Pevergreen for now. Why? First he said I was Criminal and later in the PM I'm shown as Innocent. Also... that's not how a detective PM seamus sends you looks like.

    Originally Posted by Seamus
    Results from Night 3 Investigations:

    Sasaki Kojiro shows as Criminal
    The Stranger shows as Innocent
    Vote: Pevergreen

    Also, I'd like to call Doc_Bean to the stand, PLEASE, what is your role? Are you a townie?

    To redleg, BK posted that Pevergreen had protection. CAius quoted and said he was stupid. I tolde them to edit their posts. Maybe Pever wasnt attacked because mafia saw that, or maybe he's a Made. which i believe now.

    pevergreen - 8 (Kagemusha,Crazed Rabbit,AndresTheCunning, Sasaki, Xiahou, Papewaio, Destroyer of Hope)
    AndresTheCunning - 4 ( Luigi VI di Fatlington, Moros, CountArach, BKS)
    ByzantineKnight - 1 (doc_bean)
    Abstain - 4 (Alexander, ByzantineKnight, Kommodus, Omanes Alexandrapolites)
    Sasaki - 2 (pevergreen, Pannonian)
    Reenk Roink - 1 (Reenk Roink)
    No Lynch - 1 (Caius)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ByzantineKnight
    Stig could tell you as well, Someone asked what we should do to keep him alive. I accidentally mentioned (in the thread) that there was a protection group for pevergreen.
    I can confirm this, and this is partly why my suspicions of The_Stranger have lessened. That said, a Don can participate in protection groups, so that doesn't clear him entirely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redleg
    I wonder what [b]MRD's[b] autosphy is going to show?
    If it helps, my very first conversation in this game was with MRD, his PM arriving soon after my townie PM. Here it is with the subsequent replies.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian
    Quote Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump
    Tell me who you want me to recruit/investigate. I can't kill anyone until we get another wiseguy/made. I suggest Hanky spend his turns protecting you.

    snip email address
    What info did you get in your PM? I don't really want to commit myself until I know more about what's going on. It's the first time I've played one of the more complicated games.
    Quote Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump
    I'm a wiseguy, but I don't know who the others are except you, and GH is the doctor. I need 2 other wiseguys to make kills, or 3 townies for a townie kill. I don't want to join a family unless I have to, I'd rather us wiseguys start a new family
    Based on this, I PMed GH.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian
    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian
    I know this seems a bit forward or even rude to ask, but are you a doctor? I've received info from somewhere indicating you might be something of the sort.
    Ugh, I thought I told Kage not to tell anybody...

    Yeah, I'm a doc. Please don't broadcast it though. What about you?
    Would you believe me if I told you I'm a townie? BTW, was it only Kagemusha that you told? What is Kage?
    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian
    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
    Well, you're obviously fishing for roles so I don't really trust you, but nobody trusts anyone in this game so I guess it's okay.

    As far as telling others, I think I only told Kage (he claims he is a wiseguy btw), but there might have been someone else. Kage sticks out.
    It's my first try at a more complicated game (my only two were M3 and M5), so I'm cautious until I can figure it out. I've had someone approach me claiming to be a wiseguy, so I'm confused already.

    Just snipping for readability's sake.
    Based on that, I later tried to organise a protection squad with MRD and Kage. Unsuccessfully, as MRD replied too late to coordinate efforts (I PMed MRD with the direct proposal but not Kage, since I'd had direct contact with MRD), while Kage only replied to my general proposal "Wanna turn clean?" a day or so after the deadline.

    So I was played like a fool by GH, but what are MRD and Kage?

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    Default Re: Capo de Tutti Capi (in play)

    You can investigate two people a night ( Cant you? )
    I feel reluctant to believe that so-called 'PM' you put up Pevergreen, if it was a real PM, then wouldn't it have Seamus's full title? And why would you just 'Throw' out the info?

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