Capo de Tutti Capi [Concluded]

[Pannonian]

He's continually suggested a double suicide to prove his innocence, not me. He's suggesting it on the knowledge that no-one will call his bluff - an empty promise. I'm saying if he wants to suicide to prove his innocence, then go ahead, it's odd to expect someone to join you, as a 'bargain'.

He won't be powerless as a lone Don - he can recruit & act as a Made.

Pevergreen might well be the Don of that family. It's one of the reasons why we're lynching him.

Either Pannionian made a mistake in posting it up, or MRD sent it to the wrong guy. Why Pannionian didn't mention or spot that he was being approached as a Don much earlier is a question worth asking. I am & shall continue to ask it.

Do you realise there are several contradictions in your accusations here? As for your continuing to ask the question - I'm not going to bother answering until you're going to listen to the answer and go through the logic of it, instead of trying to twist it so your conclusion that I'm guilty can be proved, whatever my answer. Suffice it to say the answer to that particular question is in the open already, for those who are willing to read. As are the answers to the other questions, and if you don't trust my answers, you can always ask other people, as I've suggested.

[Louis VI the Fat]

Yes Louis the Fat, maybe I am a wiseguy, but read the rules carefully and you'll see that a Wiseguy can decide to join the Light Side of the Force. Until now, you have been doing nothing else then spreading wild accusations

Wild accusations? You mean, like informing everybody 5000 posts ago that Kralizec wrote the 'Andres PM'? Informing everybody that you're a wise guy?

The former was to kill Beirut's don, Kralizec. The latter was to persuade you to join the light side. The funny thing is, I was about to post this when I read your post:

Another mafia down!

Pity my call to kill off one of his henchmen at the same time wasn't heeded:

Hey, if some people unvote Pevergreen and change to Andres, so we get a tied vote, then Redleg can hang two baddies simultanously!

Post #434, page 22. The following was posted even before Andres was in the game, when Pevergreen and Andres were already plotting nasty schemes:

No idea what that is, but

to Andres, you left a * out, just so "you" and 'you' know what im talking about

However, Andres has yet time to prove my accusations wrong and redeem himself. Andres, save yourself, provide us with a definitive account of what the deal is with your PM and your intensive contacts with Pevergreen and Kralizec.
They're both dead, now speak up and save yourself!

If you have indeed chosen the light side of the force, you can prove it by PM-ing me the names of the people you wanted to start a mafia group with. Fail to mention but a single one, and I'll have to assume the temptation of the Dark Side overwhelmed you....

Pass, and I'll tell everybody that you're Jedi.

[Louis VI the Fat]

AndresTheCunning is a Jedi.

If you have indeed chosen the light side of the force, you can prove it by PM-ing me the names of the people you wanted to start a mafia group with. Fail to mention but a single one, and I'll have to assume the temptation of the Dark Side overwhelmed you....

Pass, and I'll tell everybody that you're Jedi.

[Caius]

AndresTheCunning is a Jedi.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

*You don't need to be inquisitive, this isn't the Andres you are looking for*

[Pannonian]

So can we start looking at Motep?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I can't decide whether Motep is a mafioso trying to avoid notice or a townie who just isn't sure what he's doing.

Which is it Motep?

[JimBob]

I'm gonna go back in time a second.

Moros said in post 1146 that

So we almost got the corleone family and tagatalia family...

How do you know that Moros? Corleone has been revealed to us but your post is the first time I read Tagatalia besides the introduction.

[Louis VI the Fat]

AndresTheCunning is a jedi

Andres and I made a deal. He wanted to prove his innocence, and I provided him with an opportunity. If he would PM me some things that would prove his willingness to work with the town, then I would tell everybody that he did so.

He provided it, and I stuck to my end of the bargain. He is of the light side of the force now, a Jedi. Andres is now innocent until proven guilty, just like everybody else.

Everything about the original 'Andres PM' is forgotten and the suspicion it raised is no longer relevant to Andres' present position in this game.

[Csargo]

Andres and I made a deal. He wanted to prove his innocence, and I provided him with an opportunity. If he would PM me some things that would prove his willingness to work with the town, then I would tell everybody that he did so.

He provided it, and I stuck to my end of the bargain. He is of the light side of the force now, a Jedi. Andres is now innocent until proven guilty, just like everybody else.

Everything about the original 'Andres PM' is forgotten and the suspicion it raised is no longer relevant to Andres' present position in this game.

Who are you to say who's suspicious or not?

[Louis VI the Fat]

Who are you to say who's suspicious or not?

I'm not. Andres and I struck a deal, he fullfilled his end of the bargain, so I was compelled to fulfill my end.
Caius then looked inquisitive at my post 'Andres is a Jedi': "". So I figured he, maybe others too, may not have understood what that was all about. Staying true to the spirit of the deal with Andres, I now felt compelled to explain again, in certain terms, what it was all about.

So I spelled out the deal in great detail and a clear language. It may read like an irritatingly pompous statement declaring Andres clean, but in fact it is simply me making sure the deal was explained clearly to Caius.

Would you care to share what information he has given you? Withholding it will only serve to make you suspicious. If it leads to another Mafia death, and you get killed for it, it will be a win for the town. Whereas, if you don't share, we will kill you anyway. So decide now:

1. Share the information with us and get killed by the mafia, but have a chance of being protected
2. Don't share the information and get lynched.

[CountArach]

Andres and I made a deal. He wanted to prove his innocence, and I provided him with an opportunity. If he would PM me some things that would prove his willingness to work with the town, then I would tell everybody that he did so.

He provided it, and I stuck to my end of the bargain. He is of the light side of the force now, a Jedi. Andres is now innocent until proven guilty, just like everybody else.

Everything about the original 'Andres PM' is forgotten and the suspicion it raised is no longer relevant to Andres' present position in this game.

Oh? Would you care to share what information he has given you? Withholding it will only serve to make you suspicious. If it leads to another Mafia death, and you get killed for it, it will be a win for the town. Whereas, if you don't share, we will kill you anyway. So decide now:

1. Share the information with us and get killed by the mafia, but have a chance of being protected
2. Don't share the information and get lynched.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Andres and I made a deal. He wanted to prove his innocence, and I provided him with an opportunity. If he would PM me some things that would prove his willingness to work with the town, then I would tell everybody that he did so.

He provided it, and I stuck to my end of the bargain. He is of the light side of the force now, a Jedi. Andres is now innocent until proven guilty, just like everybody else.

Everything about the original 'Andres PM' is forgotten and the suspicion it raised is no longer relevant to Andres' present position in this game.

For you, maybe, but the rest of us have not seen any of that information. So for us, suspicion is just as relevent.

Crazed Rabbit