@Kagemusha, I was screaming Pevergreens name right from the beginning... I named him Don for starters... It was old news...
@Kagemusha, I was screaming Pevergreens name right from the beginning... I named him Don for starters... It was old news...
We do not sow.
I thought that PM = Public MessageOriginally Posted by AggonyDuck
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PM means private message.Originally Posted by Kralizec
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
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Read page 21, starting with post #616, and compare with post #622. Classic meatballing, and erratic behaviour of a kind some of us will have seen before. FWIW, post #631 was where I started picking on the trio of The_Stranger, Motep and pevergreen, and although I've changed my mind about The_Stranger, I still think Motep should be lynched. Do it after Andres if you want, but don't let him go. Search the Gameroom for his posts for more clues in his behaviour.Originally Posted by Moros
Don't bother with the truly inactive. WoG will take care of them. It might be worth chasing up those with a few but not many posts, or ask Seamus what he's going to do with them. Bear in mind though, Sasaki's hosting Graffiti Mafia, which will take up some of the participants' time. Let that finish before drawing any conclusions about lurkers.
Finally, continue to drive the townie machine and don't let anyone think of joining the Mafia. The town has been remarkably successful in rooting out the Mafia so far, so don't let the Mafia replenish their numbers.
Yep.But then i dont have inside information like you supposedly do.Originally Posted by The Stranger
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Ja Mata Tosainu Sama.
Well, you learn something new everydayOriginally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
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Well you need to start networking if you want information...
EDIT: @krazilec rare jongens die anglo-saxen.
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Very interesting post by andres. Don't have time to go through it carefully right now but some points.
He accuses redleg of killing GH. Good job Redleg?![]()
He brings up BK's edited post, I fail to see the significance.
From the wording of prole's pm, it looks like she was fishing for information more than trying to help.
This all seems very weak, and quite suspicious of Andres.
indeed Andres got some explaining to do.
well... my account "The_Don" paid off... didnt it :POriginally Posted by Kagemusha
We do not sow.
but it wasn't for much or you were dead.
WhateverOriginally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
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I think I explained it all in my post (which I will copy paste, so spamming accusations without foundation to make my post "disappear" won't help...Originally Posted by Moros
If I ask for an elaboration it's suspicious. If I elaborate and give information it's suspicious. If I don't elaborate it's suspicious. If I don't give information it's suspicious. If I eat, it's suspicious. If I fart, it's supsicious. If I drink, it's suspicious...
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Andres is our Lord and Master and could strike us down with thunderbolts or beer cans at any time. ~Askthepizzaguy
Ja mata, TosaInu
You are still one of the prime suspects for many people. A long post raising suspicions about 6 other people seems like an attempt to divert suspicion elsewhere; which means you don't feel you can be saved by just defending yourself, which means you know you're guilty and that's why you can't defend yourself.Originally Posted by AndresTheCunning
Welcome to MAFIA!!!Originally Posted by AndresTheCunning
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Care to say something else instead of overly using the words "guilty" and "suspicious" ?Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Meanwhile I'll continue drinking coffee (which isn't a good thing, because it's bad for my stomach)
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Andres is our Lord and Master and could strike us down with thunderbolts or beer cans at any time. ~Askthepizzaguy
Ja mata, TosaInu
Wild accusations? You mean, like informing everybody 5000 posts ago that Kralizec wrote the 'Andres PM'? Informing everybody that you're a wise guy?Originally Posted by Andres
The former was to kill Beirut's don, Kralizec. The latter was to persuade you to join the light side. The funny thing is, I was about to post this when I read your post:
If you have indeed chosen the light side of the force, you can prove it by PM-ing me the names of the people you wanted to start a mafia group with. Fail to mention but a single one, and I'll have to assume the temptation of the Dark Side overwhelmed you....Another mafia down!
Pity my call to kill off one of his henchmen at the same time wasn't heeded:
Post #434, page 22. The following was posted even before Andres was in the game, when Pevergreen and Andres were already plotting nasty schemes:Originally Posted by luigi VI di Fatlington
However, Andres has yet time to prove my accusations wrong and redeem himself. Andres, save yourself, provide us with a definitive account of what the deal is with your PM and your intensive contacts with Pevergreen and Kralizec.Originally Posted by pevergreen
They're both dead, now speak up and save yourself!
Pass, and I'll tell everybody that you're Jedi.
post #1064
I guess Pannonian got the better of Pevergreen in the end.Originally Posted by Pevergreen
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Also, what's this all about then?
post #1088:
If Pevergreen was GH / MRD's don, then that means Pannonian isn't. Wasn't there a mix up between the names of Pevergreen and Pannonian? Did MRD really intend for that PM to be send to Pevergreen instead of Pannonian?Originally Posted by Pevergreen
"You killed my Luca,
you killed my Made,
and now, you seek to lynch me…
But one still remains.
Who is it you think,
Who have we missed,
We killed every Corleone…
But One still remains.”
Lawyer should be able to defend himself better than that.Originally Posted by AndresTheCunning
@moros, Well it was a risk I took, and it paid off... That's Mafia, That's Life.
off to bed... cya guys tommorrow...
We do not sow.
Wait a minute... Something is not right here. Seamus could you please explain to me what that thing behind Kralizec name means...
[Corleone Don] Does the corleone plainly means Don or does it means Don of the Corleone Family?
We do not sow.
I'm not a lawyer. I have a law degree and a degree in "notariaat" + one in tax law.Originally Posted by Moros
I work with a notaris - notaire. For you anglo-saxons, compare it to a barrister specialised mainly in family law, corporate law, real estate and sometimes acting as a functionary in legal disputes. No pleading (well, sometimes, on very very rare occasions).
Gah! Calling me a lawyer. I'll sue your ass for that insult!
Andres is our Lord and Master and could strike us down with thunderbolts or beer cans at any time. ~Askthepizzaguy
Ja mata, TosaInu
If you are refering to the notations in the "Butcher's Bill," the notations refer to the [starting role] of the now dead player. There is no indication of family affiliation as I did not provide such.Originally Posted by The Stranger
As far as the narratives go, I compose them but I do solicit (but not require) specifics from those likely to be lynched should they wish to provide same. You can confirm this with any of the lynched to date.
"The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom.” -- Milton Friedman
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -- H. L. Mencken
Hey Moros, how is it that you know it's the corleone and tagatalia families?Originally Posted by Moros
Time to quote myself (post 1166 on page 39), so the other players living in different timezones get the chance to read this and reflect on it.
Whoever posts immediately after this post and has already posted after the first time I posted this, is spamming to make this information disappear once again and therefore is suspicious.
Originally Posted by Beirut
Originally Posted by Proletariat
Well, well, well. Proletariat wants me dead...
I'll tell the town some thingies...
Just a reminder : my time zone is GMT +1 (Brussels, Paris)
I PM'd Proletariat on the 24th of January at 9:16 am
At that time, the vote tally was as follows:
Originally Posted by Pindar
9 for pevergreen - 5 for me. Seamus posted that this day would en at 14h00 his timezone, this means at 20h00 for me. Still 11 hours to go and it was not sure pevergreen would be lynched. So I wanted a bandwagon by the time the players of the other timezons popped up.
Why did I want pevergreen to die so eagerly?
In tempore non suspecto (when I was not yet participating in the game) Kralizec informed me he was 90 % sure pevergreen was mafia (from another family). After seeing his suspicious "investigation results" I was convinced he was mafia.
So I pm'd Proletariat this at 9.16 am:
What was this "this"? Well it was a pm Proletariat sent to me in tempore non suspecto (to be precisely the 19th of January at 19:29) to be deliverd at my "mafia contact", id est KralizecOriginally Posted by AndresTheCunning
Here is the pm:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Now, why would Kralizec have asked for Proletariat to vote for him? Check this thread and specifically the posts made by that time. Things were going pretty bad for Kralizec. He was about to get lynched. He thought Proletariat didn't want to cooperate and thus he thought I'll say to vote Kralizec and then she will vote for somebody else. Apparently Proletariat was willing to cooperate with the mafia and she voted Kralizec... Don Kralizec gambled and lost.
To prove it was Kralizec who wrote the legendary PM's, I'll tell you this :
Kralizec was surprised that I had joined the game and he wrote this to me:
I'll translate the Dutch: You're part of the game now? Something that grabbed my attention - the quote from Redleg - Redleg was one of the persons who got our PM's. It's perfectly possible he was the one that killed GeneralHankerchief. GH was one of the victims allowed in the PM.Originally Posted by Kralizec
So, to conclude:
1. Proletariat was eager to cooperate with the mob which means she is a) a Wise Gal b) a townie playing pro-mafia ==> Lynch her
2) I did get the already legendary PM's from Kralizec
3) Redleg has something to explain.
Now, you all know that with the revealing of this information before the night has ended, I risk my life.
So yes I kept this information for myself because I wanted to be 100 % sure pevergreen got lynched. If not by convincing the townies, then by blackmailing.
To prove I'm pro town I don't wait until the night has expired but I give this information now.
Maybe they won't kill me so you'll all start to think I lied. Maybe they are afraid for what else information I might have (which saddenly isn't the case) and they will take no further risk and kill me.
I think I have sufficiently proven my innocence and have been more cooperative towards the town then many of you who are playing this game since the very start.
Yes Louis the Fat, maybe I am a wiseguy, but read the rules carefully and you'll see that a Wiseguy can decide to join the Light Side of the Force. Until now, you have been doing nothing else then spreading wild accusations, meanwhile leaving alot of lurkers at rest... Why?
You also weren't correct about the time I got my role PM.
Instead of speculations and wild accusations, it might be better to come with clear facts.
Only look at the facts and who should be lynched or at least investigated?
- Redleg
- The Stranger
- Proletariat
Add to that this strange event, and we have some people who have to elaborate on some things, namely:
- Byzantine Knight
- Caius Flaminius
- TheStranger
- Stig (a dead wiseguy whose soul needs to confess)
I would like to remind all of you that I suspect a new strategy: spamming this thread so that vital information gets lost and people who don't spend all day behind the pc will miss it and will just jump on the bandwagon. So if I see spamming, I will just copy paste this post as many times as necessary so that everybody has the chance to read it.
I rest my case... for now...
Last edited by Andres; 01-24-2007 at 23:46.
Andres is our Lord and Master and could strike us down with thunderbolts or beer cans at any time. ~Askthepizzaguy
Ja mata, TosaInu
What do I need to confess?- Stig (a dead wiseguy whose soul needs to confess)
I'd like to know this tooOriginally Posted by Kralizec
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Yes, Iraq is peaceful. Go to sleep now. - Adrian II
Should anyone wonder, I confirm that Andres is telling the truth.
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