someone unvote Sasaki, we can't afford to lose a revealed detective and his role PM is too convincing to be forged.
The votes for him are essentially baseless unless you consider the word of a don to be a solid foundation for a lynching.
someone unvote Sasaki, we can't afford to lose a revealed detective and his role PM is too convincing to be forged.
The votes for him are essentially baseless unless you consider the word of a don to be a solid foundation for a lynching.
'My intelligence is not just insulted, it's looking for revenge with a gun and no mercy. ' - Frogbeastegg
SERA NIMIS VITA EST CRASTINA VIVE HODIE
The life of tomorrow is too late - live today!
I think everyone is forgetting to take Ituralde's vote into account:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...postcount=1792
Making this the count as of 1600 EST, when voting ended:
The Stranger = 10 (Alexander the Pretty Good, Cowhead 418, Kagemusha, Pannonian, Pindar, Proletariat, Crazed Rabbit, Orb, Ituralde)
Tom_Hagen = 2( HughTower, Moros)
Sasaki Kojiro = 9 (doc_bean,ByzantineKnight, Kommodus, Redleg, Warluster, Ironside, Omanes Alexandrapolities the Idiot, CountArach, TS)
Abstain = 2 (JimBob, Xiahou)
Even adding Luigi's vote will only make it a tie.
Crazed Rabbit
Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
That I don't know. I'm defending TS, me and sasaki here. Warluster is in TS's group. The only thing I know is that TS trusts him. I'm not inclining that I think he's mafioso. But what you say does make sense. (was about time.Originally Posted by Pannonian
)
I'm I the only one with problems loading the org?
Edit: another duplicate, tought the messages never got posted. Strange stuff.
Last edited by Moros; 01-28-2007 at 22:41.
You do understand that a rogue does not necessarily imply that Sasaki is pro-town. In fact the term Rogue implies that Sasaki has his own victory conditions that might not be inline with the victory conditions of the town.Originally Posted by Orb
O well, seems like 'some' people decide to ruin a perfectly valid threat. Nice going guys... doc bean
the rolepm says that rogue means that he is pro town but that he isn't afraid to use "betsy" for justice... He can shift tough, but he starts out as pro-town. And I still have to see a reason to think he has swapped side.Originally Posted by Redleg
I've seen quite a few TV examples of detectives who use their own sources for the 'right' ends but are essentially 'good', and seeing as the family names come from media sources (Godfather books/films), I don't consider this a stretch of the imagination.Originally Posted by Redleg
'My intelligence is not just insulted, it's looking for revenge with a gun and no mercy. ' - Frogbeastegg
SERA NIMIS VITA EST CRASTINA VIVE HODIE
The life of tomorrow is too late - live today!
Jesus, are you guys crazy? You almost lynched me. That's the worst rash of bandwagon votes I've ever seen. Apparently this passes for prime evidence nowadays:
Or you could just read my pm:Originally Posted by Redleg
As with any pro-townie role, your basic mode for success is to vote to lynch Mafiosi, eventually removing the mafia threat from Fatlington and creating a town win.
Ironside:
Yeah that's basically it.Sasaki only to confirm from what I understood is what happened between you and pevergreen, according to what you claim. You infiltrated thier mafia-group climing that you had a pro-mafia role. Possibly it did exist a special role that fitted what you guessed would be a pro-mafia role, but no matter that, all that matters is that pevergreen accepted your claims and let you in. From the inside it was an easy matter to destroy the group.
pevergreen obviously got angry about this and made a strong case against you as revenge.
or maybe you have edited your game role message to fool the town. Which is exactly one of the accusations you have accused another of.Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
I am still waiting on why you believe its okay for you to investigate other players through PM, but have a problem with others investigating your actions via the same route?
O well, seems like 'some' people decide to ruin a perfectly valid threat. Nice going guys... doc bean
The rogue detective is always a good guy. Same Spade?
Because I'm investigating mafia and your investigating the detective. Obviously.
Then you shouldn't be getting upset because you are a Rogue, which means every action of yours should be investigated and you should be held in suspect because of your actions. And no the Rogue is not always the good guy. Why else do police departments have an Internal Affairs Department? Care to name the movie where the Police Officers and Detectives assist the Mob? In fact there are several such movies. You ever watch the movie "the Untouchables?" The Chicago Mafia had many detectives and regular police on their payroll.Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
By definition a Rogue is not necessarily beneficial to the town.
Last edited by Redleg; 01-28-2007 at 23:07.
O well, seems like 'some' people decide to ruin a perfectly valid threat. Nice going guys... doc bean
The mafia will try to lynch the detective, that's practically guaranteed, and all the votes I've received today is good evidence of that. Anyone who tries is therefore more likely to be mafia. Simple as that.Originally Posted by Redleg
btw, Kommodus is innocent.
Unvote: Sasaki
vote:abstain
EDIT: explanation; I'm confused...
The Stranger = 10 (Alexander the Pretty Good, Cowhead 418, Kagemusha, Pannonian, Pindar, Proletariat, Crazed Rabbit, Orb, Ituralde)
Tom_Hagen = 2( HughTower, Moros)
Sasaki Kojiro = 8 (ByzantineKnight, Kommodus, Redleg, Warluster, Ironside, Omanes Alexandrapolities the Idiot, CountArach, TS)
Abstain = 3 (JimBob, Xiahou, doc_bean)
Yes, Iraq is peaceful. Go to sleep now. - Adrian II
Nice try there Sasaki attempting threats against those that vote against you. A sure fire sign of a guilty individual, and a rather obvious one at that.Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
If I vote against you - I must be mafia. That is sure funny. Now go and attempt to prove it. My message from Seamus states Townie. I investigated theRogue Detective because of his actions and the conflicts I saw in the statements, I have been on protection missions, none successful but what the hell lynch me and prove that all you have is the ability to threaten others. Which is exactly the course that will happen.
Hell I just might sucide myself so that my role as townie is revealed as a fact by Seamus. What do you say to that. Its no threat Sasaki I detest those who attempt such a stance as you just took more then I detest the use of moderator functions to spy on others.
Here is a question for the general audience, if I sucide myself and the report comes back as townie - will every one lynch this rogue detective because of his use of this weak ass attempt of a threat?
What a Bully you are Sasaki
Last edited by Redleg; 01-28-2007 at 23:15.
O well, seems like 'some' people decide to ruin a perfectly valid threat. Nice going guys... doc bean
No, some people defending their fourth mafia member aka Sasaki 'The Wolf' Kojiro are mafia.Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
* Eyes mobster Crazed Rabbit *
vote: Sasaki
again.
sasaki:9
TS:10
EDIT: now I'm just trying to keep things interesting
Last edited by doc_bean; 01-28-2007 at 23:19.
Yes, Iraq is peaceful. Go to sleep now. - Adrian II
Voting closed at 1600 Eastern as I was having my gnocci with shrimp and a bit of pan-seared broccoli. Had a nice glass of Aussie Chard to go with. Damn you blokes down under make good wine! Had a Spectator 87 and I got it for only $8.39 + tax!
Sorry Luigi, I truly appreciate your vote, but cannot count it. Summary shortly.
"The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom.” -- Milton Friedman
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -- H. L. Mencken
The mafia will try to lynch the detective, that's practically guaranteed, and all the votes I've received today is good evidence of that. Anyone who tries is therefore more likely to be mafia. Simple as that.Reading comprehension FTWIf I vote against you - I must be mafia. That is sure funny. Now go and attempt to prove it. My message from Seamus states Townie. I investigated the Rogue Detective because of his actions and the conflicts I saw in the statements, I have been on protection missions, none successful but what the hell lynch me and prove that all you have is the ability to threaten others. Which is exactly the course that will happen.
Originally Posted by Redleg
that is sure funny.
Look Redleg, I can't read the thread without gaining an unfair advantage. You sent me the pm in mistake anyway, it would have happened. You are a senior member = you have a larger pm box = unfair advantage. Big whoop. I still don't see why you are so upset at my posting the pm logs in the thread. Viewing who's online has only been used to catch mafia in the past, and never by me I'll have you know.Originally Posted by Redleg
hmmmm a draw
which is Sasaki's win, really, with him as director.
I invite people who think Sasaki's guilty to vote for me instead so at least we keep our detective.
'My intelligence is not just insulted, it's looking for revenge with a gun and no mercy. ' - Frogbeastegg
SERA NIMIS VITA EST CRASTINA VIVE HODIE
The life of tomorrow is too late - live today!
Yep you do have some reading comprehension problemOriginally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Yep you being the bully is sure funny.
that is sure funny.
Your not that smart. Your clever but not as smart as you think. I don't need the moderator functions to figure out what games and actions people are taking.Look Redleg, I can't read the thread without gaining an unfair advantage. You sent me the pm in mistake anyway, it would have happened. You are a senior member = you have a larger pm box = unfair advantage. Big whoop. I still don't see why you are so upset at my posting the pm logs in the thread. Viewing who's online has only been used to catch mafia in the past, and never by me I'll have you know.
You can take away the PM function on my screen and I will still read the thread and figure out that your not being honest with the way you play the game, nor are you being honest in the thread either there, and we both know it. What is funny is that you need that advantage - I don't.
Your guilty because your actions make you guilty - who else but someone that is actually guilty makes such a obvious threat as the one that you made. Well feel great that you have survived another round from the lynching vote.
But what the hell its only a game. Oh well two mistakes so far in this game. Trusting pevergreen in the beginning, and then you in the previous round. Oh well others will sooner or latter see the duplicity in your actions.
Have fun, Still waiting an answer for the townies. If I sucide myself and it comes back as townie, will they finally lynch your lieing rear end?
O well, seems like 'some' people decide to ruin a perfectly valid threat. Nice going guys... doc bean
Not cool man. You consistantly say I've said something I haven't (e.g. "more likely" != "must"--this game is based on "more likely") and now you're just being insulting.
I haven't learned anything by being a moderator that I couldn't learn as a member. That's the truth. I would have asked someone to check the IP's for The_Don. Anyway, you can hide with an anonymous IP service...like "tor" you know...
I think you've acted suspicious enough to warrant a lynch, suicide is just as good. Btw, time will also reveal whether TS was guilty, and Pannonian as well. By then your the town will have something to measure your judgement by.
If you feel I've been insulting I apologize. The game is for fun, and I think our discussion is getting a little too heavy.
Last edited by Sasaki Kojiro; 01-28-2007 at 23:58.
Standing in the pouring rain
All alone in a world that’s changed
Running scared, now forced to hide
In a land where he once stood with pride
But he’ll find his way by the morning light
-- Louis Perez, 1984
Sunset Day Six
Few people sat down in the meeting room with anything approaching enthusiasm. The excitement only days earlier with the effectiveness of the lynching effort had paled. Too many people had died, too many people were still dying each night. Disputes about evaluation methods and evidence had reached a boiling point.
Sasaki Kojiro was very businesslike at this session – not upbeat, just matter-of-fact.
“We will tally the votes, and the person or persons achieving the highest vote totals will be injected with this variable action poison. It has an unusual effect, causing cumulative nerve damage resulting in brain death. However, the onset of death can be substantially delayed by absolute silence since the initial focus of the drug is on what the shrinks tell us is the part of the brain responsible for speech.”
The balloting concluded and the count began. There had been many changed votes, one or two who waited too long, some odd scribbles, even a few of what the future would come to call “hanging chads,” but in the end two names stood at the top of the list in a tie: Director Sasaki Kojiro and The Stranger.
The committee was chanting: Both…Both…Both…but they knew it was not to be so. Kojiro directed the guards toward The Stranger…and toward The Stranger alone.
The Stranger was taken forward by the guards and injected with the poison. He lasted 20 minutes.
The meeting broke up in silence as the members of the committee went home for the night. Sasaki gazed out at his peers but was not encouraged by the looks he received in return. It would be another long night.
OOC
Begin Night Six. PM’s please. PMs must be received no later than 1400 EST 1/29/7.
The Butcher’s Bill to Date:
Attacked: Proletariat (N1), Sasaki Kojiro (N1), Redleg (N2), Moros (N3), theRTWGuru (N3)
Lynched: Kralizec (D2) [mafia don], Beirut (D3) [mafia made], pevergreen (D4) [mafia don], Lord Motep of Kendermore (D5), The Stranger (D6)
Murdered: GeneralHankerchief (N1) [mafia luca], Stig (N2) [wise guy], AggonyDuck (N3) [wise guy], Major Robert Dump (N3) [mafia made], Caius Flaminius (N4) [townie], Sir Boo (N4) [wise guy], Sir Moody (N4) [townie] AndrestheCunning (N4) [wise guy], Dutch_Guy (N5), Sigurd Fafnesbane (N5), Ultrawar (N5)
Suicided: Ichigo, (D2) [townie], Tribesman (D2) [townie], Copperhaired Berzerker (N4), Peasant Phill (N5), theRTWGuru (N5)
WoGged: MarcusBrutus (D5), Hepcat (N5), Ignoramus (N5), Zalmoxis (N5)
Tallies:
Lynching Votes:
Sasaki Kojiro = 9 (ByzantineKnight, CountArach, Doc_Bean, Ironside, Kommodus, Omanes Alexandropalites the Idiot, Redleg, The Stranger, Warluster)
The Stranger = 9 (Alexander the Pretty Good, Cowhead 418, Crazed Rabbit, Ituralde, Kagemusha, Orb, Pannonian, Pindar, Proletariat)
Tom_Hagen = 2 (HughTower, Moros)
Abstain = 2 (JimBob, Xiahou)
No Vote = 10 (Big King Sanctaphrax, Destroyer of Hope, Drisos, Luigi Vi di Fatlington, Masy, Papewaio, Reenk Roink, Sasaki Kojiro [director], Tom_Hagen, Xdeathfire)
"The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom.” -- Milton Friedman
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -- H. L. Mencken
Actually, you can. You don't need to be logged in to view the Gameroom or its threads.Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Glad to help![]()
Lol, fair enough. I have to log in to post howeverOriginally Posted by Kralizec
Anyway, that kind of thing has never been what the game's about. I get my info from the thread same as the rest of you. Knowing who's invisible etc doesn't tell you anything, trust me I've played on other sites. Being able to argue for your own innocence and for others guilt is a more important skill.
Last edited by Sasaki Kojiro; 01-28-2007 at 23:55.
Well, that was fun, wasn't it? Killing a townie, excellent work.
I'll look forward to more deaths tonight then as the blood-letting continues.
Sasaki - was that the result of an investigation from when?
See y'all in the am (GMT).
It was Night 4's.Originally Posted by HughTower
This thread has 13.63 percent of all gameroom posts.
Very nice
![]()
'My intelligence is not just insulted, it's looking for revenge with a gun and no mercy. ' - Frogbeastegg
SERA NIMIS VITA EST CRASTINA VIVE HODIE
The life of tomorrow is too late - live today!
Ok some things to go over from the previous day.
Omanes:
Originally Posted by Omanes
Originally Posted by Omanes
Originally Posted by Omanes Alexandrapolites the Idiot
Originally Posted by Omanes
Originally Posted by Omanes
Originally Posted by Omanes
Originally Posted by Omanes
What?![]()
![]()
Why all the vote hopping?
Originally Posted by Kagemusha
Why do you want to see a tie?Originally Posted by Kagemusha
Ituralde, same question?
Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good
Originally Posted by ByzantineKnight
Originally Posted by Pindar
Originally Posted by Kommodus
Originally Posted by CountArach
Why?
What's interesting?Originally Posted by doc_bean
Bookmarks