Capo de Tutti Capi [Concluded]

[Redleg]

My final words must be reserved for my main man and good friend Redleg: we won buddy!

Yes indeed - and learned a few valuable Mafia game skills for the next game.

[Motep]

wow...so the famous Cdtc has come to an end. I cant beleive the town won. Nice work!

[Crazed Rabbit]

Ya, the rules favored the town.

*sigh*

Oh well, I'll just wait for the next CdTC. Then...

Louis, had we known CountArach was a don, we could've let poor Prole take one for the team and elect a new don, or let Pindar go down. But we got screwed.

CR

[Papewaio]

Phew.

I couldn't participate on weekends... as I promise the wife to minimum PC activity on the weekend. So I almost got WoGged and I almost got lynched because the assumption was that I might be Mafia.

I decided after a couple of days to make an assumption that Redleg was an active townie who knew what he was doing. I also made sure that I would track what he was doing because he could just have easily been a Don.

I decided to go wingman and have him lead my protection missions. I was worried that I was helping a mafia family.

But I figured that as a townie I would have a better chance against one family then 3. And at least I could possibly get the group lynched at the end if there was enough townies left.

Although right to the end I though it might have been myself being lynched by Red and his mafia family. Luckily for myself he was the lynch pin for success not for my lynching.

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

We should have done away with Orb. He turned on us at the end...

Epic game, guys.

[Kommodus]

You mean... it's over???

Sorry I didn't participate more - I'm still on a break from mafia due to lack of time - but I still check in sometimes just to see what's going on. Please forgive my ignorance, but... why is it over again? Proletariat and Reenk Roink were still alive, so why did they leave town?

Anyway...

This was indeed an excellent game, supremely confusing and highly interactive. Kudos to Seamus Fermanagh for the excellent hosting! Your ideas were truly unique, and this has undoubtedly been the most vibrant mafia game the Org has seen! I gotta say, not half bad for your first game.

[ByzantineKnight]

Lol, our family had the worst luck, first Kralizec then Beriut, then we go through the trouble to get Andres, Hugh Tower, and CountArach to join, and they are all killed...

Good Job Town!!

[pevergreen]

Bah!

After GH got whammied, it kind of went downhill.

Turns out i was right to not trust Sasaki.

Without doubt, the best mafia game i have seen.

[CountArach]

lol, the Tataglia's had such bad luck, as BK said...

I'm a bit scratchy on teh details of before I joined them, but basically I was elevated to Don, with the chance of reviving the family, only to see HughTower killed on that very day, giving no chance for us to kill, unless I went solo...

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

Well done everybody and thanks for hosting the game Seamus!

[Andres]

Lol, our family had the worst luck, first Kralizec then Beriut, then we go through the trouble to get Andres, Hugh Tower, and CountArach to join, and they are all killed...

Good Job Town!!

It was great fun to blackmail both HughTower and you to force you to join "the Dark Side"

Tattiglia family had bad luck. Kralizecs pm's were a brilliant idea, but unfortunately the text analysis killed him. I think it would have worked if he a) had chosen somebody else, i.e. not Dutch speaking b) let that other one write the message; but still, it was a very nice try and I enjoyed my non-participating participation alot.

Afterwards Seamus put an invitation in his write-up after Kralizec's dead. It was an offer I couldn't refuse. As a token of my gratitude towards Kralizec for introducing me to this great game, I tried to revive his family, but alas...

As for Donna Barzini Proletariat: I told you from the beginning of my participation to lynch her! Why didn't you listen? Not that it would have helped the town that much, but it certainly would have served the Tattaglia's intrests *sigh*

Well, I must say THANK YOU SEAMUS for this great experience

And also DAMN YOU KRALIZEC AND SEAMUS for getting me addicted to mafia games

The Jedi

[HughTower]

It was great fun to blackmail both HughTower and you to force you to join "the Dark Side"

Umm...I contacted Kralizec once he was revealed as Don Tataglia to ask if we (CA, Sir Boo & I) could help his sole remaining mafioso. Blackmail was uneccessary. Our 2 kill missions in N1 & N2 as wiseguys - trying to start our own family - against Sasaki & Redleg had both been foiled (& got Ituralde promoted), & we were a little frustrated.

BTW, Redleg, when I was accusing you in PMs of being a Don (after our failed attack on you), the reason I was doing it privately was because I really thought you were, & I was hoping to find the right angle to offer you my/our services as wiseguys.

Ah well, such intrigue, such fun. And, btw, who was The Messenger?

[ByzantineKnight]

As for Donna Barzini Proletariat: I told you from the beginning of my participation to lynch her! Why didn't you listen? Not that it would have helped the town that much, but it certainly would have served the Tattaglia's intrests *sigh*

What do you mean, you only said to kill Caius Flaminius (Sorry Caius)...

[Moros]

So nopw do you guys believe me? Oh well the most important things are that the town won and that Crazed Rabbit and Pindar didn't survive.

[Andres]

What do you mean, you only said to kill Caius Flaminius (Sorry Caius)...

I tried to convince the town to lynch her. I didn't want us to kill her.

Ah, and sorry Caius

[Seamus Fermanagh]

You mean... it's over???

Sorry I didn't participate more - I'm still on a break from mafia due to lack of time - but I still check in sometimes just to see what's going on. Please forgive my ignorance, but... why is it over again? Proletariat and Reenk Roink were still alive, so why did they leave town?

With no Wise Guys willing to be recruited (only Kage left!), their ability to kill had been nullified. Thus, it was a question of time with 3 baddies and 11 townies -- most of whom were in league -- remaining. Rather than drag it to the bitter end, I asked if the Barzinia would prefer to bow out gracefully. Essentially, the story had been written, this was just a way to avoid a relatively predictable and low-energy finish.

This was indeed an excellent game, supremely confusing and highly interactive. Kudos to Seamus Fermanagh for the excellent hosting! Your ideas were truly unique, and this has undoubtedly been the most vibrant mafia game the Org has seen! I gotta say, not half bad for your first game.

Thanks you sir. As the phrase goes, only because "I stood on the shoulders..."

[Kagemusha]

This was a complex one. As i got my wiseguy pm i thought to play with a risk and contacted GH in order to create a vigilante group to kill of the original mafias.Little i knew that i was talking into into a Luca of the Corleones and made my first mistake by trusting him,but we managed to create a group between Me,GH,Sigurd and Caius. The idea was to form a syndicate where only the original members knew each other and new members would only know the one who hired them in to the syndicate.
Our original target was to kill Sasaki,but it was called off becouse there was a high risk of being detected as guilty by a detective in a first round.
Then after first kills, GH was gone and he revealed our little group. This made me believe that GH wasnt a townie and i decided to confirm my wiseguy status in order to survive for few rounds.
This also lead to the fact that Sigurd and Caius abandoned our cause,while i still suggested to continue with our group while exposed in the thread.
After that i was talking with bunch of people via pm, but was not able to create anything solid so i decided to take a neutral stand which resulted in sleeping the nights and gathering information from various sources. At one point Redleg suggested to lynch me and after pm converstation he believed the fact that i was indeed what i had sayed to be.
I tryed to help Redleg on his protection groups,but for some reason we were not successfull. After few rounds i was contacted by mysterious "messenger",which i believe was Crazed Rabbit. I informed Redleg that i was contacted and we decided to create a trap for this messenger, by Redleg creating a protection group for JimBob,while i would go along with the attack in order to infiltrate the mafia family that "messenger" represented. Well this wasnt succesfull either becouse our killing group was not succesfull,i believe becouse Rabbit was killed and Orb didnt join it in the end. After that i became suspicious about Redleg and Luigi and believed that it would be possible that the guys could have been running a scheme with protection groups,while were actually Mafioso. After talking with Prole, i was getting more and more suspicious about Red&Luigi,everything just seemed to go their way. Soon i was contacted by Tom Hagen and he suggested the same theory i had,which he must have had from Proletariat. For a round i worked effectively with Tom Hagen and Pindar,believing that Red&Luigi were Mafia.This also resulted in attacking Moros in the thread and i really thought that he had fabricated his investigation results. But after the next night when i was part of failed protection group of Tom Hagen and he was still protected+ Pindar was saved,while his protection group also failed to materialize.I wasnt sure about anything anymore. So i abandoned them and rest of the game i just drifted and waited what would happen. So in the end i trusted lot of wrong people including: GH,Prole and Tom Hagen(Very well played Lady and the gentlemen ) and one of the pro townies Redleg. What i have to say in the end is that awesomely played by the duo of Redleg and Luigi VI Fatlington. With townie roles you were essential in saving the town from the Mafia.

[Kommodus]

With no Wise Guys willing to be recruited (only Kage left!), their ability to kill had been nullified.

Ah... but I thought that Mafia Dons had the ability to kill if all their family members were eliminated? Ok, so I guess that wasn't quite the case here, since the Luca was still alive... hm, I see what you mean.

Besides luck, Kommodus missend of a PM, if this is really to be beleived, really helped me to get in touch with a few doctors.

Heheh, that was absolutely real dude! You had said some things during the previous day that made me think you deserved protection, so I tried to contact my previous protection team (doc_bean and Ironside) to propose this. Unfortunately I typed your name into the "To" list instead of Ironside's.

The mistake ended up paying off, though. You joined the team along with JimBob, while doc_bean left to create his own group citing infiltration concerns (I don't think he trusted me). After you told me your role and left the group, I contacted luigi VI di Fatlington and recruited him. He was part of the team that saved JimBob (the same night I was promoted to doctor/killed).

I have one confession to make - I gave your role away to certain members of my team, including Ironside and luigi. This was an error in judgement; I was trying to explain to them why I wanted you protected, and gave away too much info. Sorry.

I guess we got a bit lucky, though. Great game!

EDIT:

After this I ended up on CR:s list of potential tin star mafia, so after this recent role change I decided that protection could be good, so I asked for Ituralde's protection, whom I'm not sure knew of me a the time. Kommodus might not have revealed my name as doc_bean didn't want to reveal his.

That's true - I didn't reveal your identity to Ituralde initially (just being on the safe side). Later on he contacted me and told me he'd been contacted by you, and asked me to confirm your claims. This I did gladly - my status as a now-confirmed innocent townie helped.

I got your message asking me to back up your reveal. I'd have done this if I ever felt it was necessary; however, no one seemed to be taking CR's accusation of you seriously, and it never appeared that you were in danger of being lynched. So I just kept quiet.

[Sigurd]

Great game... and many posts .. many

In fact I probably only read a tenth part of it... Yeah this is my achilles heel. Too many posts and I can't keep up.
And I was killed by a lap dancer? Alright Pindar and CR, care to elaborate?

Sigurd

[Don Corleone]

Well, the Barzinis had a secret weapon that GH's reveal (you suck, GH) forced us to abandon. I was able to remain as a townie throughout most of the game. Just as the name of my charcter in the movies, my role was to support the family by working with the town and defending the family from the outside. It was working really well. Too well, in fact. I felt really guilty about misleading Luigi and Redleg, and in a way, GH's reveal (you suck, GH) and it's subsequent forcing me to defend Prole so vehemently (and taking up killing again) was a relief.

When GH revealed (you suck, GH) we were all crapping in our pants. I went too far out on a limb too early, but I had too, I couldn't let steam build. Then some of the rest of the Barzinis started to chime in, this let me back off from the defense somewhat and actually publicly consider Prole as a suspect. Then, an unbelievable gift fell into my lap. Omanes asked me to join a killing crew. I figured it was just the town trying to take matters into their own hands, but I also knew this was my out, and salvation for Prole. So I PM'd Luigi and Redleg with it. Red was smart enough not to answer, but luck was with me, and Luigi responded in a mildly lukewarm way.

I chose to start my acting career right there and acted as though I took his lack of condmenation on the killing crew as endorsement, and that I thought that proved he was in the mafa. I then proceeded to shout that theory to anyone that would listen to me. Now, Luigi and Red knew full well they weren't mafia, so I'm sure at first they were scratching their heads, then they put 2 and 2 together. From there on, my goose was cooked. I couldn't work with the town anymore, so beyond lying through my teeth to Kagemusha, and going off the deep end with my usual paranoid theories (man did GF2 make a good cover for future games), so I took up killings with the Barzinis again, surprisingly making it up to Made. I have no idea who protected me on Night 8, but THANKS! We almost won because of it...

Oh, the other thing that killed us.... I need to come clean and let everyone know that I begged Sasaki to post that fake reveal. I knew once Redleg talked the real FBI agent into coming forward, the Barzinis were dead meat. I knew that the one thing that might plant doubt was the knowledge that the FBI PM was out and about. I never thought anyone would believe Sasaki, only that they couldn't trust a post of a PM from the FBI agent as actual evidence. Unfortunately, Redleg didn't take it to well, and in the process, became an unassailable witness. Nobody, and I mean nobody was going to believe me over Redleg after Saturday night. He was town through and through, and that was indisputable.

Anyway, Seamus, thanks again for such a wonderful game. I really enjoyed it.

And oh, one last time, GH, YOU SUCK!!!

[Pindar]

And I was killed by a lap dancer? Alright Pindar and CR, care to elaborate?

Sigurd

I wrote up your end. I thought an exotic South American would appeal to your Northern Viking roots: something hot to forget the cold what, what.

[Ironside]

The mistake ended up paying off, though. You joined the team along with JimBob, while doc_bean left to create his own group citing infiltration concerns (I don't think he trusted me). After you told me your role and left the group, I contacted luigi VI di Fatlington and recruited him. He was part of the team that saved JimBob (the same night I was promoted to doctor/killed).

doc_bean was quite paranoid in this game, it wouldn't surprice me if I was the only player that knew his status (exept right before Seamus ended the game were I mentioned his status to luigi after he had namned doc_bean as his best candidate for the last don). .

I have one confession to make - I gave your role away to certain members of my team, including Ironside and luigi. This was an error in judgement; I was trying to explain to them why I wanted you protected, and gave away too much info. Sorry.

I guess we got a bit lucky, though. Great game!

I was actually asking doc to protect Ituralde on 2-3 nights after our first protection to make sure that we didn't lose him incase we had a leak. Not that Luigi seems to have remembered Ituralde's status for long though.

That's true - I didn't reveal your identity to Ituralde initially (just being on the safe side). Later on he contacted me and told me he'd been contacted by you, and asked me to confirm your claims. This I did gladly - my status as a now-confirmed innocent townie helped.

Yes I asked Ituralde to contact you to make him sure. Otherwise I would sound something like: Dude, I know you're a surgeon and want protection. While the first part would probably clear me from mafia suspicion while thinking a bit of it, it's feels a bit bad to get a "I know everything about you, and request your help" without understanding why.

I got your message asking me to back up your reveal. I'd have done this if I ever felt it was necessary; however, no one seemed to be taking CR's accusation of you seriously, and it never appeared that you were in danger of being lynched. So I just kept quiet.

I was wondering about that for a bit, but you're right that my innocence was refuted very little (if at all), when I went official. Started to get very hard to refute me while still not giving away your mafia status.

Oh and you Barzinis made a considerble flaw when not presenting an alternative detective. We knew that 2 were still in the game and a false detective this late would be fatal to the town, aka the true one has to step forward to save the town. Not countering them meant trouble for you as their word was law in the end

And CR, I'm curious on how I ended up on your list, as it's quite obvious that your family considered it somewhat correct atleast.

[Louis VI the Fat]

I was actually asking doc to protect Ituralde on 2-3 nights after our first protection to make sure that we didn't lose him incase we had a leak. Not that Luigi seems to have remembered Ituralde's status for long though.

Gah! It's a complex game. Redleg even had to persuade me not to vote Seamus at one point- I tought it was suspicious that he barely posted.

All you tin stars out there: I am still dying to find out if my *eyes mobster Crazed Rabbit * had anything to do with his death.

Orb, would you mind posting some information here? You were a pivotal character, and I'm quite curious to your thoughts.

Proletariat - I've never changed my mind about someone so often as her. I thought it was suspicious she was saved in the first round. Then there was this 'killing as a fashion statement' thingy. I also believed GH reveal at first too. I didn't anymore before the voting was over, I thought there was something fishy going on. When she voted Moros I became convinced again that she was, and added her to my list.

It was Orb's (?) peculiar note by the corpse of Xiahou that made me change my mind yet again:
Duty.

Kagemusha
Proletariat.

Orb had said he couldn't kill Proletariat the night before. Okay, so I figured that maybe Orb knew something I didn't. I also figured Kagemusha for mafia the night before, and it turned out he wasn't.
Me and Kagemusha had an extensive PM exchange following Orb's note. I soon found out he was completely drunk. So I took advantage of that to question him extensively about his wise guy status and his sexual preferences.
Armed with this new and very incriminating information I knew Kage could only choose the town's side from now on.
I also let go of Proletariat, just keeping her in mind in case no other leads would find me the don.

From what I knew about everyody else, only two persons remained besides Proletariat for don: BKS and Doc_Bean. They were very secretive and mistrustful. Ironside had definitive information that Doc wasn't. Which now left me with checking BKS's contacts. He wasn't very forthcoming, so I decided to throw it in the open, hoping to find some proof of his status either way. At this point, the game ended.

I'm glad Seamus ended it. It did prevent a tedious cat-and-mouse endgame. Maybe RR and Prole could've escaped the rope for one day. Maybe they could've made another kill, but most townies were so well aware of each other's status by now that it would've been a matter of two days max before they were killed I think.