Most overall powerful faction?

**DukeKent** · 01-09-2007, 06:15

One way to decide for yourself is to play 2 or more factions for yourself in a multiplatey hotseat campaign. I tried Spain and England in my first. Loved it, loved playing as Spain even more than England in that game. Playing as Spain was much more challenging than as England (love Jinettes

). As England you quickly become an unstoppable juggernaut. As Spain it takes much longer to climb to the top of the hill. Since I was playing as both factions I made them allies. Much more finesse is required in the early game for Spain. Don't take my word on it, try it you'll like it

**Rilder** · 01-09-2007, 07:20

Mongols, period, once they settle down they conquer the middle east like its going out of style, hell if I look with toggle fow off it looks like there taking care of the turmuids pretty easy they got about 3-4 full stack armies going against the turmids atm, I actually feel sorry for "Khan" who is leading the turmids

**derfinsterling** · 01-09-2007, 08:49

I'm playing the Moors and have recently gone to conquer Italy. I bribe my few allies with money so they don't backstab me and have a few wars going against the smallest Christian nations - HRE, Milan, France, England (gave the Scots 20.000 gold as a gift - that saved them from being crushed and enabled them a counter-invasion to the South. a few well-placed assassins has England almost taken out of the war already).

Anyway back on topic: The moors are pretty good. Great starting position with the gold and Ivory in Africa and easily conquered neighbours in Iberia.
Camel troops that scare the christian horse cavalry and the Tuareg camels with muskets are a frightful thing to behold - I've beaten 2:1 odds easily with a few of those units in the front as skirmishers, with the more average units behind them to mop up whatever comes threw. Recently I acquired the Dis. Christian Guard, but have to send them to battle first. And I'm looking forward to my Sudanese Handgunners...

Plus: Assassins are great. 85 Assassins against over 500 French town militia, a little cavalry and crossbowmen gave me a 1:1 ration at the battle overview.
And now I got two Assassin's Guilds...

But I agree with one of the above posters: The late troops don't matter that much because the game is long decided before.

**sapi** · 01-09-2007, 12:50

Definitely the hre simply because of their position.

If you act decisively you can develop an economic base that cannot be bested and pump out your exceptional troops (as an example, i hold all of europe (ie france, spain, britain, scandinavia, greece and germany) and some of russia at turn 50 on vh/vh) which are equal to all but ha heavy armies (and you can just autocalc them)

**hoetje** · 01-09-2007, 21:59

Could you post a screenshot of your HRE campaign,Sapi?It really sounds great:)

**Spark** · 01-09-2007, 22:54

I wouldn't rely on tercio or aventuros to hold my main line, they can very easily snap if you're not micromanaging the quirks with their pike formations, nevermind if the enemy flanks you.

**Basileus** · 01-09-2007, 23:06

Factions that have Horse Archers are the most powerful, my pick will be the Turks becuase JHI/JA/JM..oh and imagine if they could get pikes heh

**sapi** · 01-10-2007, 02:10

Originally Posted by hoetje

Could you post a screenshot of your HRE campaign,Sapi?It really sounds great:)

linky
(Sorry about the quality - i don't have photoshop installed atm and so i had to use paint. As it is it's far too big to post inline

)

Near the start i had a fantastic win:loss ratio for battles (something like 50:1) but i needed to start fielding navies so it's since dropped dramatically :(