I started with MTW oh so long ago. I never got into Shogun but was hooked on MTW almost every waking hour I wasnt at school. I was more of a Roman fan and I almost cried when I saw the previews for Rome Total War. Then I played it for a couple days and found RTR. I refused to download EB because it was beta and I saw the list of bugs and no offense but they were horrendous compared to RTR. Also the greek voices and speeches for the family members and spies/diplomats annoyed me. So I religiously played RTR until I was over my cousins house and saw him playing EB. My jaw actually hit the ground. I went home downloaded it and have been hooked ever since. I didnt care about the CTD or the greek voices for Romans any more. This mod is pure ownage.