The Conservative and Liberal Brain

**Navaros** · 01-10-2007, 05:35

Education goes hand-in-hand with tolerance, and often, the more the better

The article very wrongly makes the implication that education leads to tolerance because tolerance is how an enlightened person should behave. That sentiment is fundamentally incorrect.

"Education" goes hand-in-hand with "tolerance" because most of the educational institutions in the world are little more than soapboxes for liberal/secular humanist propaganda.

This speaks to a deep-seeded problem with the education system that promotes propaganda rather than truly educates. It does not speak to education leading to tolerance because an enlightened person is supposed to be tolerant. He's not.

**IrishArmenian** · 01-10-2007, 06:20

Not really. Education does lead to a higher degree of tolerance whether you know it or not. Say you are educated on how the life of a Muslim is, and you get their perspective. You realise what their world is like and understand a little more.
I have no clue what your problem with tolerance is, Navaros.

**Lemur** · 01-10-2007, 06:33

I really doubt that the problem with liberals and academia is a recent event. Betcha the Ptolemeys were irritated at the stuff coming from the Academy in their day. Centers for education have always been centers of dissident thinking. No need to look for a secular humanist conspiracy.

**BDC** · 01-10-2007, 15:23

Originally Posted by Lemur

I really doubt that the problem with liberals and academia is a recent event. Betcha the Ptolemeys were irritated at the stuff coming from the Academy in their day. Centers for education have always been centers of dissident thinking. No need to look for a secular humanist conspiracy.

It's a really long-term conspiracy...?

**English assassin** · 01-10-2007, 14:17

Originally Posted by Navaros

The article very wrongly makes the implication that education leads to tolerance because tolerance is how an enlightened person should behave. That sentiment is fundamentally incorrect.

"Education" goes hand-in-hand with "tolerance" because most of the educational institutions in the world are little more than soapboxes for liberal/secular humanist propaganda.

This speaks to a deep-seeded problem with the education system that promotes propaganda rather than truly educates. It does not speak to education leading to tolerance because an enlightened person is supposed to be tolerant. He's not.

Absolutely. I distinctly remember thinking, when I read that Jesus said "Love thy neighbour" that he OBVIOUSLY meant "unless your neighbour is black, or gay, or has sex before marriage, etc etc, for a full list of exclusions see the Book of Navaros Chpt 94"

How ridiculous to think that the message of Christianity has anything to do with toleration.

**Navaros** · 01-10-2007, 15:52

Originally Posted by English assassin

How ridiculous to think that the message of Christianity has anything to do with toleration.

Insanely ridiculous.

Christianity, Islam, Judaism all have the message that immorality is not to be tolerated. By the way I'm not sure why you mentioned being Black, there is nothing wrong with being Black.

**IrishArmenian** · 01-10-2007, 15:59

He meant the majority of Evangelical Christians in the U.S.A. are probably incredibly racist, gay-bashing, convert-or-die extreme (in beliefs) zealot.

**Banquo's Ghost** · 01-10-2007, 16:05

Originally Posted by IrishArmenian

He meant the majority of Evangelical Christians in the U.S.A. are probably incredibly racist, gay-bashing, convert-or-die extreme (in beliefs) zealot.

Let's be careful not to generalise and start bashing religious communities.

It's as unfair to do it to Evangelicals (who have many streams of thought and belief) as with Muslims or pirates.

**Goofball** · 01-10-2007, 18:54

Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost

Let's be careful not to generalise and start bashing religious communities.

It's as unfair to do it to Evangelicals (who have many streams of thought and belief) as with Muslims or pirates.

Or ninjas...

**PanzerJaeger** · 01-10-2007, 22:13

On the political left, she wrote, "There was little sympathy for the victims," and it seemed to her that progressives were "consumed with hatred for this country" and had "extended their misguided sympathies to tyrants and terrorists."

**English assassin** · 01-10-2007, 16:13

Originally Posted by IrishArmenian

He meant the majority of Evangelical Christians in the U.S.A. are probably incredibly racist, gay-bashing, convert-or-die extreme (in beliefs) zealot.

No I meant that Navaros's views are "incredibly etc etc etc" (although I accept he is not racist).

In order that the post may be constructive, I was also hoping that Nav might take it as a gentle reminder maybe actually to read ALL of the words of Jesus and to reflect on the overall meaning of his life and message. I just find it rather odd that we are regularly treated to Jesus's alleged views on the inevitable damnation of homosexuals, abortionists, etc etc, and we don't get equal airtime to Jesus's message of forgiveness and love?

Maybe Navaros could give us a post on the meaning of, shall we say, "let he who is without sin amongst you cast the first stone" before we get the next instalment on homosexuals? Then perhaps we could have a post on "Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again " and after that back to the usual observations on fornicators. And so on.

A bit of variety, that's all I'm asking for.