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    Nobody expects the Senior Member Lemur's Avatar
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    Wow, the Apple iPhone was announced late yesterday, and already I've had two emails from geek friends who are dropping everything to buy them. And they're both hard-core Windows guys! Weird.

    Any Orgahs feeling the siren call of the iPhone? Doesn't the fact that it will be on the Cingular network make you think twice? Don't you want to wait for the price to come down? Didn't your mama tell you never to buy 1.0 hardware?

    Here's Ars Technica's blurb:

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    Behold, the iPhone

    1/9/2007 2:36:24 PM, by Jon Stokes

    Apple turned 30 on April 1, 2006—quite a milestone for a technology company that, for much of its life, has provided endless fodder for an army of pundits who have made a living out of writing its obituary. The 2007 Macworld keynote brings Apple into its first full year of its thirties, and the company is keen to demonstrate that 30 is the new 20, and that the new, post-Switch Apple is as ready as ever to do what it was founded to do: make computers for the rest of us... or, waitaminute...

    Apple at 30+ makes more than just "computers." Indeed, in spite of his famous declaration that Apple makes computers, and "computers have keyboards," Jobs took the stage this year to tout a roster of products that includes software, services, and one very important device that, though arguably a "computer" in a general sense, decidedly lacks the requisite keyboard

    Not a Mac, but also not the Newton: It's an iPod! It's a Phone! It's an Internet device!

    Halfway into the keynote, Jobs introduced Apple's newest portable gadget, the long-awaited iPhone, by comparing it to two past seminal Apple products: the original Mac in 1984, and the first iPod in 2001. The message is clear: the iPhone is intended to be Apple's next revolutionary product, and it will carry Apple forward on the coming wave of ubiquitous wireless broadband.

    The new iPhone is a essentially a combination of three devices: a widescreen iPod, a phone, and an Internet communicator. It does not have a keyboard.

    In lieu of a keyboard, the 11.6mm thin phone sports a 3.5-inch touchscreen that is meant to be used not with a stylus but with the fingers. With a new input interface called "multi-touch" that enables the touchscreen to accept input from multiple places at once, users can use the touchscreen to tap out SMS messages on an onscreen QWERTY keyboard, surf their contacts list, select music tracks, make calls, and perform other phone, messaging, and media functions.

    The iPhone's visual interface makes it possible for Apple to provide some new twists on traditional phone functionality. For instance, a new feature called "visual voicemail" lets you listen to your voicemail messages in any order by using the interface to select which message you want to hear. The contact management and dialing software also make it a snap to select the participants in a conference call, and to send group SMS messages.

    The phone also makes use of the same kind of motion detection that powers Nintendo's Wii controller. Photos with a landscape orientation can be switched to portrait simply by turning the phone sideways, or iTunes can move into CoverFlow mode using the same motion. And in another novel interface move, photos and web pages can also be zoomed in and out by squeezing the sides of the phone.

    For Internet, calendaring, and messaging use, the phone features a version of Safari, along with Apple's Mail client and iCal. Safari can render full pages, and web navigation works much like it does in OS X. Jobs also gave a stunning demonstration of Google Maps on the new phone, with the phone automatically picking out the phone numbers and making them available to the user to call with just a touch.

    The phone's Mail client can render rich HTML email, and connect to any IMAP or POP server. In a move that will make the iPhone a viable Blackberry competitor, Yahoo has announced free push IMAP to the phone. Indeed, Google and Yahoo both provide integrated search capabilities on the phone, and Yahoo is using the phone to launch two new mobile services: Yahoo Go and Yahoo oneSearch.

    The iPhone's media capabilities are impressive, and it essentially gives you iPhoto and iTunes in the palm of your hand, complete with CoverFlow. The 3.5mm headphone jack outputs clear sound, and the movies and photos displayed on the phone are very sharp.

    The new phone accomplishes all of these feats by running a version of OS X, though there's no word yet on exactly how "stripped down" this version is. The iPhone's OS X version also makes heavy use of Dashboard-like widgets to provide extended functionality, like weather reporting.

    Other iPhone features include 8GB of storage, a 2MP camera, and support for the following wireless protocols: GSM + EDGE, Bluetooth, and WiFi. The phone has 16 hours of battery life for audio and 5 hours for talk time, video, and browsing.

    The phone will be available to Cingular customers in June at a price of $499 for the 4GB version and $599 for the 8GB version. You'll be able to pick one up at either the Apple Store or your local Cingular dealer.

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    It looks and sounds gorgeous but we won't be seeing any in Europe till at best, Christmas. The network deals in Europe are quite different than the US and I'd be surprised if anyone will pay the price Apple are likely to ask - unless they come up with a subsidy.

    I'd love one, if only because Apple look as if they have cracked both the integration issue and the user interface. Not to mention having a PDA/phone that actually works seamlessly with my Mac. But then I've been seduced by the Steve Jobs Reality Distortion Field (TM) before, and no doubt will be again.
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    I really don't see what the big deal is, other companies have been offering phone/mp3 players for awhile now but suddenly we're all supposed to cream our jeans because Apple is officially entering the fray? Ja, it's got other features as well but it's not as if Apple is reinventing the wheel.

    I overheard some people in my office talking about the iPhone yesterday; one girl was so excited about the iPhone, as if it could cure what ails her and fill her life with the joy and merriment only an iTunes subscription and a Cingular account could do...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spino
    I really don't see what the big deal is, other companies have been offering phone/mp3 players for awhile now but suddenly we're all supposed to cream our jeans because Apple is officially entering the fray? Ja, it's got other features as well but it's not as if Apple is reinventing the wheel.
    Hmm, I'm not that down on it, I just think it's crazy to jump onto something this early, before people have had a chance to hack it and make it work better. Also it's on the Cingular network, which I've heard nothing but negatives about. And it's 1.0 hardware! Come on, who buys 1.0 hardware?

    If it works as advertised, it's going to be very, very nice. That's a big if. And once friendly hackers remove some of the restrictions on playback, and get it to play back Divx and Xvid files properly, it'll be the bee's knees. So two years from now, when it's been properly hacked, and the hardware glitches have been fixed, and it's available on a proper network, the lemur will think about it.

    What amazes me is seeing perfectly rational geeks running out to get one now. They should know better.

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    My two year old SDA Music is still running fine and I'm european, so, no.
    The only thing that would make me consider to shell a lot of money into a new cellphone would be a cheap, unlimited UMTS flatrate but I think that is not coming anytime soon...


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    I bet it can produce a cup of coffee for ya too. Or maybe not. If it can't make coffee (with sugar of course) and serve it, I won't get it.


    Now that that's out of my system, let me not get serious.
    Apple ain't a bad company, as they make good quality products. But ya know what I don't like about 'em? Exclusivity. In the computer business they're annoying enough already, and now the iPhone? Can somebody get me a cyanide pill please?

    Okay, I'll drop the sarcasm. Look at 'em, eh? Eh??! Look at 'em! They proudly present their iPhone (oooooooo!) and they think they got their act together. Well, they do, but.... well, ACH!

    Never underestimate the mindset of sheeple...
    Exactly. But then again I still tend to underestimate them, simply because of the fact they are sheep.

    Let's hope in the future we'll have a phone that can cure diseases, make coffee, shoot leaser beams, and takes you time traveling.


    I don't know what my post is about, but I don't see the big deal either with this-- this-- IPHONE!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur
    Hmm, I'm not that down on it, I just think it's crazy to jump onto something this early, before people have had a chance to hack it and make it work better. Also it's on the Cingular network, which I've heard nothing but negatives about. And it's 1.0 hardware! Come on, who buys 1.0 hardware?
    I do. I have before and will again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur
    If it works as advertised, it's going to be very, very nice. That's a big if. And once friendly hackers remove some of the restrictions on playback, and get it to play back Divx and Xvid files properly, it'll be the bee's knees. So two years from now, when it's been properly hacked, and the hardware glitches have been fixed, and it's available on a proper network, the lemur will think about it.
    I'll never get one. Because I won;t give Apple money, ever. M$ or nothing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur
    What amazes me is seeing perfectly rational geeks running out to get one now. They should know better.
    Geeks won't be buying this and you know it. Apple has built there market share on getting sheeple to buy their products.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lars573
    Geeks won't be buying this and you know it. Apple has built there market share on getting sheeple to buy their products.
    I know a guy who makes his living building PCs for folks, with a side line in IT support for medium-sized businesses. He also builds web stores with checkouts and all of that hooh-hah for businesses who need it. He even monkeys around with AS400s, which is not for the faint of heart. Walk into his office and you see nothing but windows computers, with the exception of a Linux box serving up some fileshare and HTML.

    Why do I tell you all of this? Because this morning he emailed me about how excited he is to get an iPhone. Are you telling me this guy isn't a geek?

    I can see there's a towering inferno of Apple hate on going on in this thread, and that's neither here nor there. I'm agnostic: show me the platform that does what I want at the right price, reliably, and I'm all for it. Sometimes that's Windows, sometimes that's OS X, and sometimes that's Linux.

    I can't believe I'm going to be forced to defend Apple's latest toy, but really, "sheeple"? Anybody who wants what this thing does is a mindless wool-bearing quadruped? This passes for discussion 'round here?

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