How on Earth Do you Add Characters to your family tree????
Everytime i try to alter the descr_strat file i screw up.
is there something im doing wrong?????
say i wanted to add a character for the Seluecids? Julii? Brutii? Carthaginians?Sorry if everyone else already knows how to do this but i just started playing this game a couple months ago when my brother went to college and left it to me.
thanks
Re: How on Earth Do you Add Characters to your family tree????
I'd just answered part of this here:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...41#post1432841
person I was answering there already had person on the map, that's not a bad way to start, make your new person a general first ie.
The name of the character must be a male character name for the correct faction (you can view listing in data/descr_names.txt) if you want to put him in the family tree later it should also be a name that no one else in the faction is using.character Nakhrankh, general, age 20, , x 187, y 2
army
unit egyptian archer exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
the x and y co-ordinates are where he will appear on the map, open rome shell in the game (normally ` key), and type show_cursorstat to find co-ordinate of a valid location (that gives the position your mouse is hovering over). General must have at least one army unit to act as his bodyguard.
If that works to get him into family you then have to make him a named character instead of a general and add him to the relative section at the bottom of the faction listing. He has to fit into a logical family structure as father / son etc. See the link at top for my attempt to explain that.
Oh and make sure you are using -show_err that can give you a useful error message.
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Re: How on Earth Do you Add Characters to your family tree????
Yeah but how exactly do you get a chartacter into the game?
cant i make him start out as a son of one of the existing characters?
like for example say that Amulius Brutus is 35 years old or something, can i make a son of him called Tiberius Brutus who is maybe age 9? and make him be part of the family already?
if so could you walk me through the editing of the descr_strat file?
thanks
Re: How on Earth Do you Add Characters to your family tree????
Is there also a way to change the ages of the characters that you start out with to make a campaign easier for beginners?
Re: How on Earth Do you Add Characters to your family tree????
OK that sounds like Brutii family tree, its quite handy when working with family tree to COPY and paste copy of relevant bit into word or notepad doc so you can print relevant bit and write notes on print, so I'd make print and mark up relative section as below, taking dates of birth from army section and character record section, so you'd have on your print out:
Got fed-up with marking the notes in red but you get the idea, thats just for your reference so you can visualise whats going on.Code:character_record Cassius Brutus, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 14, alive, never_a_leader character_record Titus Brutus, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 10, alive, never_a_leader character_record Cornelius Brutus, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 7, alive, never_a_leader character_record Oppius Brutus, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 3, alive, never_a_leader character_record Galla, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 50, alive, never_a_leader character_record Hostia, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 30, alive, never_a_leader character_record Lucilla, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 28, alive, never_a_leader character_record Paulina, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 12, alive, never_a_leader relative Tiberius Brutus(52), Galla(50), Aulus Brutus(34)1stchild, Amulius Brutus(31)2nd child, Vibius Brutus(30)3rd child, end relative Aulus Brutus(34), Hostia(30), Paulina(12)1st, Titus Brutus(10)2nd, Oppius Brutus(3)3rd, end relative Amulius Brutus(31), Lucilla(28), Cassius Brutus(14)1st, Cornelius Brutus(7)2nd, end
From your notes and referring back to my earlier post you should be able to see that Tiberius and Vibius both have space to have one more child, Amulius can have another 2.
Your example was that you wanted to give Amulius a son aged 9, he can have that but the 9 year old needs to be listed between Cassius whos 14 and Cornelius whos 7. You can't actually call him Tiberius in this example as that name is already in use for another leader, look up the Brutii section in descr_names.txt and select new unused name. Herius would be a valid name, you would add him by adding the parts in blue:
EDIT: just saw your other post, yes you can change the ages but you have to remember to obey the dad is 16 years older than any son rule, and keep them in correct age order, you also can't have twins!Code:character_record Cassius Brutus, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 14, alive, never_a_leader character_record Titus Brutus, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 10, alive, never_a_leader character_record Cornelius Brutus, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 7, alive, never_a_leader character_record Oppius Brutus, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 3, alive, never_a_leader character_record Galla, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 50, alive, never_a_leader character_record Hostia, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 30, alive, never_a_leader character_record Lucilla, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 28, alive, never_a_leader character_record Paulina, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 12, alive, never_a_leader character_record Herius Brutus, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 9, alive, never_a_leader relative Tiberius Brutus, Galla, Aulus Brutus, Amulius Brutus, Vibius Brutus, end relative Aulus Brutus, Hostia, Paulina, Titus Brutus, Oppius Brutus, end relative Amulius Brutus, Lucilla, Cassius Brutus, Herius Brutus, Cornelius Brutus, end
Last edited by Makanyane; 01-13-2007 at 19:29.
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Re: How on Earth Do you Add Characters to your family tree????
thanks alot,
is it the same for adding agents? or characters for other factions?
Re: How on Earth Do you Add Characters to your family tree????
How about adding another character to the family tree that has already come of age? for example since Tiberius has another space for another child, couldnt i add "Herius Brutus" at age say 29 or something? then could i give him a wife and kids? not that i would becuase that would be making it a bit too easy but hypothetically could i?
Re: How on Earth Do you Add Characters to your family tree????
Agents don't go in family tree but they do need unique name and valid location.
Other factions work the same but make sure you look up the right factions names when adding anybody.
Yep, tiburius could have a 4th child, who was 29, listed after Vibius in relative line. In that case as he was over 16 you wouldn't give him a character record but would give him a character and army section similar to:
traits and ancillaries lines are entirely optional, but he must have valid age, and map co-ordinates and at least one unit of army. Obviously change name, age and co-ordinates to suit your new guy....Code:character Amulius Brutus, named character, age 31, , x 116, y 64 traits GoodCommander 1 , NaturalMilitarySkill 2 , PoliticsSkill 1 , Intelligent 2 ancillaries doctor army unit roman generals guard cavalry early exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
if you've got him in and he's 29 you can give him family, you'd need new relative line i.e
relative newguy, newyguy's wife, newguy's son, newguy's 2nd son, end
and newguy's wife and newguy's sons would all need their own character_record line. (If he's only 29 he can't have an on map general as a son.)
Last edited by Makanyane; 01-14-2007 at 03:06.
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Re: How on Earth Do you Add Characters to your family tree????
Is it also possible to add an adopted character into your family tree at the beginning? and also, i know this is off topic but say you add a territory for your mod, what determines the amount of territory and exactly what the boundaries of the region are? is it just a circle around the city you create?
Re: How on Earth Do you Add Characters to your family tree????
Not entirely sure what you mean but don't think so, I don't think you can have someone with different surname to rest of family (though I think you might be able to have male without surname) There is no mechanism to force adoption to occur in game either, game offers generals based on how many you already have versus number of territories you control.Is it also possible to add an adopted character into your family tree at the beginning?
You paint the area of the region in its own colour on the map_regions.tgabut say you add a territory for your mod, what determines the amount of territory and exactly what the boundaries of the region are? is it just a circle around the city you create?
You need to start having a look through some of the tutorials, the scriptorium has many on mapping related questions.
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?catid=77
its a bit old but you probably need this:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=51387
Last edited by Makanyane; 01-15-2007 at 20:09.
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Re: How on Earth Do you Add Characters to your family tree????
how do i make new characters only show up in one campaign not all of them?
Re: How on Earth Do you Add Characters to your family tree????
Im also having trouble getting the altered family trees into the game, what am i doing wrong?
ive followed all the rules such as no one can have four kids and no son or daughter can be less than 16 years younger than their father, but when i try to play the campiagn for that faction it starts out regular no changes, same as always.
do i have to uninstall and then re install it for the changes to show up?
Re: How on Earth Do you Add Characters to your family tree????
NO.Im also having trouble getting the altered family trees into the game, what am i doing wrong?
ive followed all the rules such as no one can have four kids (its actually NOT MORE than 4 kids) and no son or daughter can be less than 16 years younger than their father, but when i try to play the campiagn for that faction it starts out regular no changes, same as always.
do i have to uninstall and then re install it for the changes to show up?
I've lost track slightly of where you got to on this, but assuming you're changing descr_strat file in correct campaign folder there shouldn't be a problem with changes showing up. You should also delete the map.rwm file in which ever folder it's being re-generated in, (that's mainly to do with map changes but family tree stuff may come in - its generally good practice just to delete it every time you make any change, and re-launch to check it re-generates without ktm, otherwise some non-fatal error messages may not appear and won't create problem until you make next change that should have given show_err message but instead just gets you unexplained crash!).
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Re: How on Earth Do you Add Characters to your family tree????
The only changes that i have made to the descr_strat include
making all factions unlockable not including spqr and slave
; Custom campaign script generated by Romans Campaign Map Editor
campaign imperial_campaign
playable
romans_julii
romans_brutii
romans_scipii
end
unlockable
egypt
seleucid
carthage
parthia
gauls
germans
britons
greek_cities
macedon
pontus
armenia
dacia
numidia
scythia
spain
thrace
end
nonplayable
romans_senate
slave
end
start_date -270 summer
end_date 14 summer
brigand_spawn_value 10
pirate_spawn_value 28
I have added 5 characters to brutii family tree...
character Tiberius Brutus, named character, leader, age 50, , x 114, y 57
traits GoodCommander 1 , NaturalMilitarySkill 1 , GoodAttacker 1 , PoliticsSkill 2 , Intelligent 1
ancillaries drillmaster
army
unit roman generals guard cavalry early exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman hastati exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman velite exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
character Aulus Brutus, named character, heir, age 32, , x 111, y 68
traits GoodCommander 1 , PoliticsSkill 3 , Rabblerouser 2 , GoodAdministrator 2 , Intelligent 2 , Austere 1
ancillaries quartermaster
army
unit roman generals guard cavalry early exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman hastati exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman hastati exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman velite exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
character Marcus Attius, admiral, age 29, , x 120, y 64
army
unit naval biremes exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit naval biremes exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit naval biremes exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit naval biremes exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
character Luca Antonius, spy, age 23, , x 116, y 62
traits GoodSpy 5
character Caius Flaminius, diplomat, age 23, , x 112, y 63
traits GoodDiplomat 4
character Amulius Brutus, named character, age 31, , x 116, y 64
traits GoodCommander 2 , NaturalMilitarySkill 2 , PoliticsSkill 2 , Intelligent 2 , Austere 1
ancillaries doctor
army
unit roman generals guard cavalry early exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman light cavalry exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman hastati exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman hastati exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman velite exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
character Vibius Brutus, named character, age 30, , x 114, y 63
traits GoodCommander 1 , GoodAdministrator 2 , PoliticsSkill 1 , Intelligent 2 , MathematicsSkill 2 , Austere 1
ancillaries doctor
army
unit roman generals guard cavalry early exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman hastati exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman velite exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
character Julianus Brutus, named character, age 28, , x 112, y 64
traits GoodCommander 3 , GoodAdministrator 2 , PoliticsSkill 2 , Intelligent 2 , MathematicsSkill 1 , Austere 1
ancillaries quartermaster, orator, mentor
army
unit roman generals guard cavalry early exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman hastati exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman hastati exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman hastati exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman velite exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman triarii exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman archer exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
character_record Cassius Brutus, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 14, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Titus Brutus, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 10, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Cornelius Brutus, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 7, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Oppius Brutus, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 3, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Galla, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 50, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Hostia, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 30, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Lucilla, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 28, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Paulina, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 12, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Herius Brutus, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 9, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Aurelia, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 13, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Magna, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 27, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Gaius Brutus, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 8, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Appius Brutus, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 5, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Quintus Brutus, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 4, alive, never_a_leader
relative Tiberius Brutus, Galla, Aulus Brutus, Amulius Brutus, Vibius Brutus, Julianus Brutus, end
relative Aulus Brutus, Hostia, Paulina, Titus Brutus, Oppius Brutus, Aurelia, end
relative Amulius Brutus, Lucilla, Cassius Brutus, Herius Brutus, Cornelius Brutus, end
relative Julianus Brutus, Magna, Gaius Brutus, Appius Brutus, Quintus Brutus, end
As you can see i have added Julianus as a son of Tiberius, I have added Magna, his wife, and three kids Gaius, Appius and Quintus, as well as Herius son of Amulius
and aurelia daughter of Aulus
What happened wrong?
Re: How on Earth Do you Add Characters to your family tree????
What error are you getting when you have -show_err in the command line of the shortcut?
-Trait/Ancillary/Building Editor
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Re: How on Earth Do you Add Characters to your family tree????
how do you get show error?
but i think it is that i have patch 1.2 installed and rome total realism installed even though i uninstalled realism becuase i didnt like it. How do i uninstall those? so i can just have the original game?
Re: How on Earth Do you Add Characters to your family tree????
Can you add a woman?
Names, secret names
But never in my favour
But when all is said and done
It's you I love
Re: How on Earth Do you Add Characters to your family tree????
yes you can, i have done it before. just make sure that you get the name spelled right because nat all roman factions have the same woman names.
Re: How on Earth Do you Add Characters to your family tree????
I think you need to have all the males first, then the females.
In the "relative" section, you need to have the order
father, wife, males, females
..with the males\females section on descending order of ages.
Re: How on Earth Do you Add Characters to your family tree????
Yeah just make sure, that you dont make a woman have children that are under 14 years younger than the mother. They must be atleast 15 before having children.
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