How on Earth Do you Add Characters to your family tree????

[Aemilianus the Younger]

Everytime i try to alter the descr_strat file i screw up.
is there something im doing wrong?????

say i wanted to add a character for the Seluecids? Julii? Brutii? Carthaginians?Sorry if everyone else already knows how to do this but i just started playing this game a couple months ago when my brother went to college and left it to me.
thanks

[Makanyane]

I'd just answered part of this here:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...41#post1432841

person I was answering there already had person on the map, that's not a bad way to start, make your new person a general first ie.

character Nakhrankh, general, age 20, , x 187, y 2

army
unit egyptian archer exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

The name of the character must be a male character name for the correct faction (you can view listing in data/descr_names.txt) if you want to put him in the family tree later it should also be a name that no one else in the faction is using.

the x and y co-ordinates are where he will appear on the map, open rome shell in the game (normally ` key), and type show_cursorstat to find co-ordinate of a valid location (that gives the position your mouse is hovering over). General must have at least one army unit to act as his bodyguard.

If that works to get him into family you then have to make him a named character instead of a general and add him to the relative section at the bottom of the faction listing. He has to fit into a logical family structure as father / son etc. See the link at top for my attempt to explain that.

Oh and make sure you are using -show_err that can give you a useful error message.

[Aemilianus the Younger]

Yeah but how exactly do you get a chartacter into the game?
cant i make him start out as a son of one of the existing characters?
like for example say that Amulius Brutus is 35 years old or something, can i make a son of him called Tiberius Brutus who is maybe age 9? and make him be part of the family already?
if so could you walk me through the editing of the descr_strat file?

thanks

[Aemilianus the Younger]

Is there also a way to change the ages of the characters that you start out with to make a campaign easier for beginners?

[Makanyane]

OK that sounds like Brutii family tree, its quite handy when working with family tree to COPY and paste copy of relevant bit into word or notepad doc so you can print relevant bit and write notes on print, so I'd make print and mark up relative section as below, taking dates of birth from army section and character record section, so you'd have on your print out:

character_record		Cassius Brutus, 	male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 14, alive, never_a_leader
character_record		Titus Brutus, 	male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 10, alive, never_a_leader
character_record		Cornelius Brutus, 	male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 7, alive, never_a_leader
character_record		Oppius Brutus, 	male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 3, alive, never_a_leader
character_record		Galla, 	female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 50, alive, never_a_leader
character_record		Hostia, 	female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 30, alive, never_a_leader
character_record		Lucilla, 	female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 28, alive, never_a_leader
character_record		Paulina, 	female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 12, alive, never_a_leader

relative 	Tiberius Brutus(52), 	Galla(50),		Aulus Brutus(34)1stchild,	Amulius Brutus(31)2nd child,	Vibius Brutus(30)3rd child,	end
relative 	Aulus Brutus(34), 	Hostia(30),		Paulina(12)1st,	Titus Brutus(10)2nd,	Oppius Brutus(3)3rd,	end
relative 	Amulius Brutus(31), 	Lucilla(28),		Cassius Brutus(14)1st,	Cornelius Brutus(7)2nd,	end

Got fed-up with marking the notes in red but you get the idea, thats just for your reference so you can visualise whats going on.
From your notes and referring back to my earlier post you should be able to see that Tiberius and Vibius both have space to have one more child, Amulius can have another 2.
Your example was that you wanted to give Amulius a son aged 9, he can have that but the 9 year old needs to be listed between Cassius whos 14 and Cornelius whos 7. You can't actually call him Tiberius in this example as that name is already in use for another leader, look up the Brutii section in descr_names.txt and select new unused name. Herius would be a valid name, you would add him by adding the parts in blue:

character_record		Cassius Brutus, 	male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 14, alive, never_a_leader
character_record		Titus Brutus, 	male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 10, alive, never_a_leader
character_record		Cornelius Brutus, 	male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 7, alive, never_a_leader
character_record		Oppius Brutus, 	male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 3, alive, never_a_leader
character_record		Galla, 	female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 50, alive, never_a_leader
character_record		Hostia, 	female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 30, alive, never_a_leader
character_record		Lucilla, 	female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 28, alive, never_a_leader
character_record		Paulina, 	female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 12, alive, never_a_leader
character_record		Herius Brutus, 	male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 9, alive, never_a_leader

relative 	Tiberius Brutus, 	Galla,		Aulus Brutus,	Amulius Brutus,	Vibius Brutus,	end
relative 	Aulus Brutus, 	Hostia,		Paulina,	Titus Brutus,	Oppius Brutus,	end
relative 	Amulius Brutus, 	Lucilla,		Cassius Brutus,    Herius  Brutus,   Cornelius Brutus,	end

EDIT: just saw your other post, yes you can change the ages but you have to remember to obey the dad is 16 years older than any son rule, and keep them in correct age order, you also can't have twins!

[Aemilianus the Younger]

thanks alot,
is it the same for adding agents? or characters for other factions?

[Aemilianus the Younger]

How about adding another character to the family tree that has already come of age? for example since Tiberius has another space for another child, couldnt i add "Herius Brutus" at age say 29 or something? then could i give him a wife and kids? not that i would becuase that would be making it a bit too easy but hypothetically could i?