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    Default Re: How on Earth Do you Add Characters to your family tree????

    Yeah but how exactly do you get a chartacter into the game?
    cant i make him start out as a son of one of the existing characters?
    like for example say that Amulius Brutus is 35 years old or something, can i make a son of him called Tiberius Brutus who is maybe age 9? and make him be part of the family already?
    if so could you walk me through the editing of the descr_strat file?

    thanks

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    Default Re: How on Earth Do you Add Characters to your family tree????

    Is there also a way to change the ages of the characters that you start out with to make a campaign easier for beginners?

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    OK that sounds like Brutii family tree, its quite handy when working with family tree to COPY and paste copy of relevant bit into word or notepad doc so you can print relevant bit and write notes on print, so I'd make print and mark up relative section as below, taking dates of birth from army section and character record section, so you'd have on your print out:

    Code:
    character_record		Cassius Brutus, 	male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 14, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record		Titus Brutus, 	male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 10, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record		Cornelius Brutus, 	male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 7, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record		Oppius Brutus, 	male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 3, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record		Galla, 	female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 50, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record		Hostia, 	female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 30, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record		Lucilla, 	female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 28, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record		Paulina, 	female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 12, alive, never_a_leader
    
    relative 	Tiberius Brutus(52), 	Galla(50),		Aulus Brutus(34)1stchild,	Amulius Brutus(31)2nd child,	Vibius Brutus(30)3rd child,	end
    relative 	Aulus Brutus(34), 	Hostia(30),		Paulina(12)1st,	Titus Brutus(10)2nd,	Oppius Brutus(3)3rd,	end
    relative 	Amulius Brutus(31), 	Lucilla(28),		Cassius Brutus(14)1st,	Cornelius Brutus(7)2nd,	end
    Got fed-up with marking the notes in red but you get the idea, thats just for your reference so you can visualise whats going on.
    From your notes and referring back to my earlier post you should be able to see that Tiberius and Vibius both have space to have one more child, Amulius can have another 2.
    Your example was that you wanted to give Amulius a son aged 9, he can have that but the 9 year old needs to be listed between Cassius whos 14 and Cornelius whos 7. You can't actually call him Tiberius in this example as that name is already in use for another leader, look up the Brutii section in descr_names.txt and select new unused name. Herius would be a valid name, you would add him by adding the parts in blue:
    Code:
    character_record		Cassius Brutus, 	male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 14, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record		Titus Brutus, 	male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 10, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record		Cornelius Brutus, 	male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 7, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record		Oppius Brutus, 	male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 3, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record		Galla, 	female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 50, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record		Hostia, 	female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 30, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record		Lucilla, 	female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 28, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record		Paulina, 	female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 12, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record		Herius Brutus, 	male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 9, alive, never_a_leader
    
    relative 	Tiberius Brutus, 	Galla,		Aulus Brutus,	Amulius Brutus,	Vibius Brutus,	end
    relative 	Aulus Brutus, 	Hostia,		Paulina,	Titus Brutus,	Oppius Brutus,	end
    relative 	Amulius Brutus, 	Lucilla,		Cassius Brutus,    Herius  Brutus,   Cornelius Brutus,	end
    EDIT: just saw your other post, yes you can change the ages but you have to remember to obey the dad is 16 years older than any son rule, and keep them in correct age order, you also can't have twins!
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    Default Re: How on Earth Do you Add Characters to your family tree????

    thanks alot,
    is it the same for adding agents? or characters for other factions?

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    Default Re: How on Earth Do you Add Characters to your family tree????

    How about adding another character to the family tree that has already come of age? for example since Tiberius has another space for another child, couldnt i add "Herius Brutus" at age say 29 or something? then could i give him a wife and kids? not that i would becuase that would be making it a bit too easy but hypothetically could i?

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    Default Re: How on Earth Do you Add Characters to your family tree????

    Agents don't go in family tree but they do need unique name and valid location.

    Other factions work the same but make sure you look up the right factions names when adding anybody.

    Yep, tiburius could have a 4th child, who was 29, listed after Vibius in relative line. In that case as he was over 16 you wouldn't give him a character record but would give him a character and army section similar to:
    Code:
    character	Amulius Brutus, named character, age 31, , x 116, y 64 
    traits GoodCommander 1 , NaturalMilitarySkill 2 , PoliticsSkill 1 , Intelligent 2 
    ancillaries doctor
    army
    unit		roman generals guard cavalry early				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    
    traits and ancillaries lines are entirely optional, but he must have valid age, and map co-ordinates and at least one unit of army. Obviously change name, age and co-ordinates to suit your new guy....

    if you've got him in and he's 29 you can give him family, you'd need new relative line i.e
    relative newguy, newyguy's wife, newguy's son, newguy's 2nd son, end
    and newguy's wife and newguy's sons would all need their own character_record line. (If he's only 29 he can't have an on map general as a son.)
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    Default Re: How on Earth Do you Add Characters to your family tree????

    Is it also possible to add an adopted character into your family tree at the beginning? and also, i know this is off topic but say you add a territory for your mod, what determines the amount of territory and exactly what the boundaries of the region are? is it just a circle around the city you create?

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    Default Re: How on Earth Do you Add Characters to your family tree????

    Is it also possible to add an adopted character into your family tree at the beginning?
    Not entirely sure what you mean but don't think so, I don't think you can have someone with different surname to rest of family (though I think you might be able to have male without surname) There is no mechanism to force adoption to occur in game either, game offers generals based on how many you already have versus number of territories you control.

    but say you add a territory for your mod, what determines the amount of territory and exactly what the boundaries of the region are? is it just a circle around the city you create?
    You paint the area of the region in its own colour on the map_regions.tga

    You need to start having a look through some of the tutorials, the scriptorium has many on mapping related questions.
    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?catid=77
    its a bit old but you probably need this:
    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=51387
    Last edited by Makanyane; 01-15-2007 at 20:09.
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