A Parthian Campaign Suggestion

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

That's brilliant, just a few spies would probably give them a larger chance of their historical eastern domination and getting their great empire. Thanks for the quick reply and good luck with 0.8.1.

[kambiz]

Some notifications on "Pahlava" (Ashlanian) faction.

I supposed it's better to do not open another thread and use a current one to notify somethings on this faction :

Pahlava's faction leader title ,which is "Shahrdar" in the mod ,but it must be "Shâhanshâh" as it was historically (Mithridates I chose this title for the first time).

Pahlava's character names ,Which are the greekized version of the original iranian names.I suggest you to use true parsi names ,For example :

"Mithridates" should be changed to "Mehrdad" ,
"Phraates" -> "Farhad" ,
"Artabanus" -> "Ardavan" ,
"Achaemenes" -> "Hakhamanesh" ,
"Cyrus" -> "Kurush" and ...

also many iranian (Parthian) names have been forggoten to added. I expect you to at least add the king's names like :
"Orodes" -> "Orod" ,"Tiridates" -> "Tirdad" ,"Vardanes" -> "Vardan" ,"Vologases" -> "Belash" and ...etc.
Maybe "the Persian Cataphract" can help you better on both of them.

Thanks a lot
-Kambiz

[The Persian Cataphract]

Dear Cambyses, we have been working a lot on the Pahlavân faction, and while your suggestions are highly welcome, without giving too much information, you are a little late with this. Don't worry about the names, they should be the least of your worries as we speak

As for Shahrdâr, it is a correct designation for pettier kings. The Parthian Empire, in all effect being a confederacy governed by Seven great clans of the Dahâë (Haftzandân or the later Haft-Khandân the basis of the Sassanid system of magnates or vuzurgân). The city of Hatra had a Shahrdâr, for example. Vassal kings are also "Shahrdâr" because the norm back then for pettier kings was the measuring of how many cities were in possession, an idea consistent with Isidore's (Of Charax) "Parthian Stations" where a rudimentary division of satrapies were responsible for the local construction and maintenance of the caravanseries (Karawânsarâï). The greater King, the emperor, King of Kings, whatever you call him, had a different designation. "Arsaces" was the epithet, hereditary to the great sovereign, and to the head of the Ashkânî Royal clan. The common name for king was "sah", pronounced "shâh", but like I said, it was the common designation for king. In parthian society, a king was not merely a king. Shahrdâr is more flexible in the sense that it is used to measure power, influence and wealth, through amount of cities, satrapies and one thing that greatly influenced parthian society was the importance of what clan you originated from. Hence why we use "Shahrdâr", dearest Cambyses. We could use "Shâh", as a suffix to designate the Kûshân (Kûshânshâh, for example, king of the Kushans), Hayasdan or the Sakaë (Sakâshâh) but "Shâhanshâh" is reserved for the big chief. Very rarely, Parthia was a unified nation, and usually the King of Kings being nothing more than the puppet of the strongest clan.

[BozosLiveHere]

I thought we reserved Shâhanshâh for after the pahlava complete the Shâhanshâh event. I could probably figure out a way to switch the FL title after that happens.

[The Persian Cataphract]

Well, you are right Bozos, however considering the humble start of the Pahlavân which was nothing more than a confederacy, let alone a centralized kingdom, the successful campaign would explain how the Pahlavân kings became King of Kings, sovereigns over several nationalities.

[fallen851]

What is wrong with the Pathian Capital?

Buggy or historical problems?

[kambiz]

Ba Dorood "Savar'e Parsi"
I know all you said about parthian faction leader.Well I suppose it's a matter of how to look at it.When I hear about "faction leader title" ,I consider it as the formal way of calling a faction leader. That's right that common people just called them "shâh" or ashkanian faction leaders were not that powerful to be considered as a real King of kings ,However "Shâhanshâh" was thier formal title and especially foreigners like Romans knew them like this ,For example :
At the reign of "Phraataces" (Parsi : "Farhadak") when caeser"Augoust" calls him just in name ,it made him annoyed and in his letter to august in return ,"Phraataces" call himself "Shâhanshâh" (King of kings).
Also in roman records ,Ashkanian kings have been called as "King of Kings".

In regard of the character names ,i think it should not be so difficult and doesn't need long time to be done.
Anuways ,these are my suggestions.

-Kambiz