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    Well, you are right Bozos, however considering the humble start of the Pahlavân which was nothing more than a confederacy, let alone a centralized kingdom, the successful campaign would explain how the Pahlavân kings became King of Kings, sovereigns over several nationalities.


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    What is wrong with the Pathian Capital?

    Buggy or historical problems?
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    Ba Dorood "Savar'e Parsi"
    I know all you said about parthian faction leader.Well I suppose it's a matter of how to look at it.When I hear about "faction leader title" ,I consider it as the formal way of calling a faction leader. That's right that common people just called them "shâh" or ashkanian faction leaders were not that powerful to be considered as a real King of kings ,However "Shâhanshâh" was thier formal title and especially foreigners like Romans knew them like this ,For example :
    At the reign of "Phraataces" (Parsi : "Farhadak") when caeser"Augoust" calls him just in name ,it made him annoyed and in his letter to august in return ,"Phraataces" call himself "Shâhanshâh" (King of kings).
    Also in roman records ,Ashkanian kings have been called as "King of Kings".

    In regard of the character names ,i think it should not be so difficult and doesn't need long time to be done.
    Anuways ,these are my suggestions.

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    Dear Cambyses, I think you misunderstood me. My point was that Shâhanshâh is a title that we in the team intended to use from the very first beginning, to designate the greatest of kings, the lord of the shahrdârs. Let me demonstrate it in this way:

    Shâhigânê Vuzurgân = Shâhigânê Zand = Shahrdâr (Leader of a specific clan's lesser magnates = leader of the clan = Owner of cities)

    Shâhanshâh = Basileos Arsakoi = Arsaces = Shâhigânê Shahrdârân (King of Kings = King of Arsacids, the royal clan = The regal epithet of Arsaces = Shâh of the "city-owners")

    I hope this clarified


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    Hey guys;
    @"the persian cataphract" in Fingilish
    Dorst'e man ,Rastesh man akhar nafahmidam shomaha mikhahid che kar konid (Engilisye man albate kheili bade) Amma hadafe man yad avari bod ke kardim ,Baghyash ba shomast.

    @EB team
    -Some other thing I had forggoten to mention.
    Both "Pahlava Shivatir" and "Azad Asavaran" have wrong model ,because they carry bow on their models (!?) which should be corrected.

    -"Grivpavar"(Parthian General bodygourd unit) don't use thier swords after the initial charge.

    -Is it possible to add "Camel Cataphract" for Pahlavians? As you know "Artabanus IV" (Ardavan IV or V) used them in the last successful Pahlava attack on romans.I know this case was the only one has been recorded ,but it also gives Pahlava's (Mostly horsed based) unit roster some variety

    Thank you so mutch for attention & Be vizhe sepasgozaram az "Savar'e Parsi"
    -Kambiz

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    Bleh... Double post.
    Last edited by The Persian Cataphract; 01-20-2007 at 19:47.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kambiz
    Hey guys;
    @"the persian cataphract" in Fingilish
    Dorst'e man ,Rastesh man akhar nafahmidam shomaha mikhahid che kar konid (Engilisye man albate kheili bade) Amma hadafe man yad avari bod ke kardim ,Baghyash ba shomast.

    @EB team
    -Some other thing I had forggoten to mention.
    Both "Pahlava Shivatir" and "Azad Asavaran" have wrong model ,because they carry bow on their models (!?) which should be corrected.

    -"Grivpavar"(Parthian General bodygourd unit) don't use thier swords after the initial charge.

    -Is it possible to add "Camel Cataphract" for Pahlavians? As you know "Artabanus IV" (Ardavan IV or V) used them in the last successful Pahlava attack on romans.I know this case was the only one has been recorded ,but it also gives Pahlava's (Mostly horsed based) unit roster some variety

    Thank you so mutch for attention & Be vizhe sepasgozaram az "Savar'e Parsi"
    -Kambiz
    Kambiz jân,

    Bebinid, be yê Shahrdâr mâ mitunim begim "Shâh", vali mozûë mâ ast kê emperâtûre Ashkânihâ eyne mesle Hakhâmenshiân bûde dige. Yedûne keshvar nabûd ke mâ faghad mitunestim begim "Êrânshahr", na, mesle Hakhâmaneshiân ba sisteme "Shatrapân" estefâdeh kardan. Keshvarânê/Shatrapânê Armenistân va Kûshânshahr va Sakastânâ ke Shâhegâne khudeshun dashtan, mage na? Hame az inâ Keshvarân, bâ Shâheshân... Hame tike az emperâtûriyê Êrânshahr budan, va hame Shâhegân (Shahrdârân), ye Shâhê vuzurg dâshtan, yê Shâheshâhân. Be in migim "Shâhanshâh". Shâhê az hame Êrânshahr! Mehrdâd II ye Shâhanshâh bûd, bekhatere kê Shâh-sâlârê Shâhânê Armenihâ, va Hendihâë Arachosiyâ va Îrânihâë Mâdîyân va Pârsiyân, va Elâmiyân bûd, vali Arshâk, Shâhê aval az Ashkânihâ, hanûz faghad Sâlârê Zand-i Pârnî, ye mîhanê kûchî, mesle Bakhtiârân, bûde.

    Âlân fahmidi, azizam? Kheyli sharmandê, bekhâtere "Fengilisië" man ye zarrê eftezâh ast, mesle Fârsië ketâbî


    -"Grivpavar"(Parthian General bodygourd unit) don't use thier swords after the initial charge.
    You need to alt-switch your weapon. After you charge with your lance, double-rightclick again, but this time do this while holding down the alt-key.

    -Is it possible to add "Camel Cataphract" for Pahlavians? As you know "Artabanus IV" (Ardavan IV or V) used them in the last successful Pahlava attack on romans.I know this case was the only one has been recorded ,but it also gives Pahlava's (Mostly horsed based) unit roster some variety
    Oh dear... This was me nearly a year ago, before I joined EB. I too suggested a cataphracted camel unit of the Hatrene model, however this was scrapped. The cataphracts gave Artabanus his victory against Macrinus, and Trajan's failed siege of the Parthian city of Hatra would of course add to this, but this was before I learned that the mod does not extend this far into the time-frame, I'm afraid

    Bâ sepâs.


    "Fortunate is every man who in purity and truth recognizes valiance and prevents it from becoming bravado" - Âriôbarzanes of the Sûrên-Pahlavân

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    If you can say anything , what is in the works for our Parthian friends ? More cavalry ? A decent piece of Native Infantry ? The return of cavalry that can bring the soft touch of Parthianization with there axe?

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