A Parthian Campaign Suggestion

**The Persian Cataphract** · 02-05-2007, 22:30

Originally Posted by kambiz

Hello EB team;
Is there any chances we have Persian(Parsi) voices for the Pontus and Pahlava units in the final release???

Dear Cambyses,

Do you celebrate Christmas? I hear it is a time of miracles

**HumphreysCraig00** · 02-06-2007, 02:19

Hey Kull are you allowd to say what that giant hole in the floor is or not as it looks interesting.

Plus you missed the c00 from it.

**Kull** · 02-06-2007, 06:57

Originally Posted by HumphreysCraig00

Hey Kull are you allowd to say what that giant hole in the floor is or not as it looks interesting.

I have NO IDEA what that thing is! It was a complete and total shock to find it there on the battlemap. I tried to set a unit down inside, as it looks like there are passageways and chambers leading off to who knows where, but it's all treated as impassable terrain. Too bad, as it would have been awesome to force the enemy up to the edge and push them in during battle!

As to the location, take a look at my second screenshot, the one with the flood. If you look to the mountains just north and east of Hekatompylos, the battle which revealed the Secret Chamber occurred on the slopes near that first orange foothill. Not sure of the exact coordinates, but it was right around there.

**Teleklos Archelaou** · 02-06-2007, 02:36

Kull found the secret tomb of the lost Templars and the Umbilicus Mundi!

Never seen that before mate. Looks pretty cool though. I can't wait till we can get those parthia changes started now though.

**kambiz** · 02-06-2007, 20:26

Originally Posted by The Persian Cataphract

Do you celebrate Christmas? I hear it is a time of miracles

Excuse me but I don't understand ,Ofcourse we don't celebrate XMas and I'm sure you know it well so ,What do you mean?

**Krusader** · 02-06-2007, 22:07

Originally Posted by kambiz

Excuse me but I don't understand ,Ofcourse we don't celebrate XMas and I'm sure you know it well so ,What do you mean?

If there is one thing Hollywood has taught us, it's that miracles happen with greater frequency during Christmas.

In other words...
As of now we just need someone to record all those commands Persian Cataphract has written.

And regarding Pontos, they will be using Greek, although their eastern units will of course respond in Iranian.

**The Persian Cataphract** · 02-06-2007, 23:55

Excuse me but I don't understand ,Ofcourse we don't celebrate XMas and I'm sure you know it well so ,What do you mean?

Too bad. Perhaps Hâjî Fîrûz may be able to bring this miracle then

Hint: If there was nothing planned for the Pahlavâ I could have said "no". So as with the case of the Parthian authentic names, I repeat: Don't worry. Negarân nabâshid, dâdâsh. Eine mesle Nôrûz mâ dige nimitûnim begim barâye shumâ che kâr kardîm, vali mesle har Nôrûz mâ dige yê chîzî dârim. Negarân nabâshid, mâ yek nakshe dârim

Oh and when you celebrate, make your wish in Pahlavî. Who knows, maybe it will become a reality

Except Krusader already gave it away...

**MarcusAureliusAntoninus** · 02-07-2007, 03:50

Hey, I found one too:

It was in a completely different area. I think it's some sort of random Egyptian leftover from vanilla since the eastern greeks are just the { egyptian, } culture. Like the random stone circles in areas with barbarian culture.

**Teleklos Archelaou** · 02-07-2007, 04:29

Excellent point Marcus. That's gotta be it.

**kambiz** · 02-08-2007, 20:31

@The Persian Cataphract
Ba dorood;
Aya te be hal dar bareye "Jang juyane zan'e Hakhamaneshi" chizi shenidi? Pishnahad mikonam forum'e RoP ro check koni ;-)

**FliegerAD** · 02-11-2007, 06:54

It is indeed nice to see that Parthia gets such a well treatment.

I hope you don't mind one or two notes from a numismatic point of view. The first is about the "King of Kings"-title.
It is a fascinating fact, that Parthians Great Kings never called themselves "šahan šah", but always "Basileus Megas", the Greek equivalent taken from the Seleukids. We can see that on the legends of the Parthian mintage. The palahvi title "šah eran" was added later (Mithridates IV.), but the Great King title always remained Greek, even though heavily blundered towards the end of the Arsakid dynasty.

Ardašir was the first Iranian ruler calling himself "šahan šah eran" in his Typ II coins and subsequent coins, stating a clear message of renewed ("pure") Iranian power.
Therefore I would not use "šahan šah" but "Basileus Megas" for the Arsakids, especially in EB timeframe.

The second point is related to that. The Parthian rulers were "Philhellen", officially and in reality, at least for some time. Still Orodes II. enjoyed Greek theater, if one believes Plutarchos. Parthian coins only use Greek names, until late in the 1st cent.AD. The Greek names were always more prominent anyway.
Therefore it's worth considering to use the Greek names for their rulers. (There is a similar phenomen in German history in the 18th cent., when the German nobles preferred speaking French rather than German)

Literature on the numismatics:

Alram, M./Gyselen, R.: Sylloge Nummorum Sasanidarum, vol. 1, Ardashir I. - Shapur I., Paris/Berlin/Vienna 2003 (excellent series, btw!)
Alram, M.: Nomina Propria Iranica in Nummis, Vienna 1986
Alram, M.: Stand und Aufgaben der arsakidischen Numismatik, in: Wiesehöfer, J. (Ed.): Das Partherreich und seine Zeugnisse, Stuttgart 1998, pp.365-387
Shore, F.: Parthian Coins and History, Quarryville 1993

regards and keep up the great work!