Muslim factions...Especially Turks...

[Monarch]

*Monarch reeeeeallly cba to go looking for exploits. But then again getting owned by exploits aint so fun either. Anyone care to let me copy your homework? :P

lol, seriously I'm not really bothered to enough to go looking for exploits. If someone beats me by using one, and I'm not using them, then in the words of my school teacher "your only cheating yourselves"

[Fenix7]

lol, seriously I'm not really bothered to enough to go looking for exploits.

You don't even have too look for them. They are there.

If someone beats me by using one, and I'm not using them, then in the words of my school teacher "your only cheating yourselves"

Here is the trick. Would you be interested to play MTW 2 for one month more if someone who doesn't cheat, but is aware of bugs (eventualy this becames exploit) would be constantly wining over you, despite you have slightly better skills then he does?

It is hard not to use exploits if you are aware of them. I don't heav in mind winning for every cost, but from my experiences I'm not going to use units which are bugged and are going to rout in few seconds. Are you going to use them?

There is one cavalry unit in Scottish and Turkish faction (probably even more) which have one bug which help you to win the match without doing anything at all. It is more then enough that you already pick that unit and charge with it. If that unit is the only unit which is as well cheap and effective enough of all others why not to use it? If you are not going to use it then that faction is not playable. I'm talking about repeated charge bonus.

And don't tell me you would not use shorter way to solve a matematical problem if there is an option for it. Afterall if you would get a better degree instead of someone else would this mean that you have cheated? You just knew more then he did.

[Monarch]

You don't even have too look for them. They are there.

lol ye, but without saying it in my post I just meant I was too lazy

[RTKBarrett]

You don't even have too look for them. They are there.



Here is the trick. Would you be interested to play MTW 2 for one month more if someone who doesn't cheat, but is aware of bugs (eventualy this becames exploit) would be constantly wining over you, despite you have slightly better skills then he does?

It is hard not to use exploits if you are aware of them. I don't heav in mind winning for every cost, but from my experiences I'm not going to use units which are bugged and are going to rout in few seconds. Are you going to use them?

There is one cavalry unit in Scottish and Turkish faction (probably even more) which have one bug which help you to win the match without doing anything at all. It is more then enough that you already pick that unit and charge with it. If that unit is the only unit which is as well cheap and effective enough of all others why not to use it? If you are not going to use it then that faction is not playable. I'm talking about repeated charge bonus.

And don't tell me you would not use shorter way to solve a matematical problem if there is an option for it. Afterall if you would get a better degree instead of someone else would this mean that you have cheated? You just knew more then he did.

Its like the light lancers for mongols/cav militia for Russia/Border Horses/Hobilars etc etc :-) All are cheap and can be upgraded to make incredibly powerful units...

[CeltiberoMordred]

In general, all those cheap units without shields can be converted in killing machines using upgrades. Shield bug matters:

Example

Feudal knights: att10/def16 730 fl

Hobilars: att7/def7 280 fl

Due to shield bug, the +4 shield bonus is a malus, so the def 16 of feudal knights is in fact a 12-4 = 8 defense points. Now let's give upgrades to hobilars:

Hobilars v2 w1 a1 (displayed as att9/def9) 644 fl

Feudal knights: att10/def8 730 fl

Hobilars win, and costing less money.

Same can be applied to any unit without shield, as stated above.

[CeltiberoMordred]

After some testing, I feel worried.

I have upgraded some cheap cavalry units, adding +1 to armor, weapon and valour (even those with a shield), and they can defeat the heaviest cavalries in a frontal charge and with lower cost. According to stats, that should not happen... Maybe related with armor upgrade not being a +1 but a higher boost acording to the new armour? Who knows!

[Aelwyn]

After some testing, I feel worried.

I have upgraded some cheap cavalry units, adding +1 to armor, weapon and valour (even those with a shield), and they can defeat the heaviest cavalries in a frontal charge and with lower cost. According to stats, that should not happen... Maybe related with armor upgrade not being a +1 but a higher boost acording to the new armour? Who knows!

ha. quite amusing. very well programmed and tested.

[ElmarkOFear]

Mordred they should have had you testing for balance! Very well researched.