Is Schiltrom Working For You?

[Carl]

Pretty obvious.

I'm asking because I never got them to fight in schiltrom effectivly before I implemented the Sheild Fix, but i'm not sure if it was me using my units wrong.

So I'm wondering, did anyone else get it working without the sheild fix?

Thanks.

[Snoil The Mighty]

Only ever used it in sieges, but yeah went a-ok the handful of times I used it. I don't use any mods or other alterations, just 1.0 and now 1.1

[IrishArmenian]

I've never had to use it.

[Marshal Murat]

I've got some tactics for it.
It's usual that I'll have a bunch of light spearmen, and are facing an army of mailed knights and enemy spearmen.

What I do is place a schiltron in front of my line, and place the other units behind. The Schiltron has a better defense against the cavalry, so when the mailed knights charge in, they get stuck against the schiltron. If they charge you, they take on the schiltron first, breaking apart that massive wave of horseflesh and manpower. You then throw your infantry in against the enemy spearmen and cavalry, who are hacking apart your infantry. You'll lose alot of one unit this way, so I suggest mercenary spearmen.

[Von Nanega]

I've got some tactics for it.
It's usual that I'll have a bunch of light spearmen, and are facing an army of mailed knights and enemy spearmen.

What I do is place a schiltron in front of my line, and place the other units behind. The Schiltron has a better defense against the cavalry, so when the mailed knights charge in, they get stuck against the schiltron. If they charge you, they take on the schiltron first, breaking apart that massive wave of horseflesh and manpower. You then throw your infantry in against the enemy spearmen and cavalry, who are hacking apart your infantry. You'll lose alot of one unit this way, so I suggest mercenary spearmen.

The schiltron does not work well unnsupported. As stated by the quoted poster above, use 'em to break and hold the charge, them kill 'em off with another unit. I don't use them for seiges because I would rather the unit face the breach with all of the spears.

[TevashSzat]

One thing that happend to me was that sometimes whenever i put a unit in schiltrom during a siege battle right outside the gate, the unit would start to form up in a circle but then they would keep on running around in a circle and wont stop even with archers shooting at them a cavalry charging so they woud get slaughtered immedietely. On other situations though they would form up just fine

[Whacker]

The schiltron does not work well unnsupported. As stated by the quoted poster above, use 'em to break and hold the charge, them kill 'em off with another unit. I don't use them for seiges because I would rather the unit face the breach with all of the spears.

Seconded, on the part about unsupported. I've tried putting my units in schiltron right in front of the doors when I'm besieged. The unit in schiltronis going to suffer pretty bad, so you have to use it to pin (the anvil if you will) and the other units to kill (the hammer).

[Tiberius maximus]

i use this formation before the battle if im getting attacked, instead of lines and ranks i use lines of circles and stagger them out with heavy inf. in between. thats the only way ican use it effectively

[alpaca]

Note that the Schiltrom is likely to get better in 1.2, because the heavy cav mass will be reduced a lot.
I'm told heavy cavalry acts much more like in MTW1 with the patch aplied (i.e. it'll get stuck pretty soon in a formation and not simply charge through 3 units of spearmen :P)