Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman
Ironside you clever bugger , you managed to quote Saddam in your different perspective of Vuks post

There is so much to misunderstand when it makes no sense.
So who exactly is it that you think is going to attack you and what exactly is your army able to do about the likely suspects ?
Bugger all unless either you have a massive invasion force (that you say you don't need) or you are going to nuke an entire region in an attempt to kill a couple of nuts who were hiding in a shack there but have since moved out .
Anyone who could attack us. If China and its allies attacked the U.S., how long do you think it would last? Not very...esp. with all the nukes Clinton gave them.


Quote Originally Posted by BDC
Why? Even a small modern army can call in enough firepower to make any army from any point in the past ashamed. Anyone invading America would be obliterated.
Not quite, we have an army of men that can't even read a compass. Our military is the most pathetic thing in the world. We have so few men and so few defensive missiles that we could be crippled in ONE missile attack.

Quote Originally Posted by Husar
China sez: "And what do we care if a crappy little country like the US gets intimidated?"

If what you say was official US policy, even I would turn to official anti-americanism and join Osama and his gang because I'd rather live without a big nation that thinks others are just crappy and should just be bombed to the stoneage if they don't do what the big one wants.
When we germans said similar things, you were surprisingly against us.
Also keep in mind that by trade, those small, completely unimportant countries help finance your huge army.

I never said we shouldn't care about them or that we should attack them, but that we should not base or domestic or military policy on their opinions of us. We should do everything we REASONABLY can without endangering ourselves or hurting foriegn diplomacy, and if they don't like it: tough. What would you do if they said they were intimidated by our airport security? Get rid of it? We can have good relations with another country, but we don't need to be ruled by them.
Pardon me, but Germany is the farthest thing from a model country. In fact it is just about the most messed up country in the world.

We fought the Germans because of a screwed up web of diplomacy. America wanted war with Germany and so forced Japan into a war, and then instead of demoliting the Japenese who did horrible things to us, concentrated everything on Germany. Later nuking innocent civilians in an attempt to show Russia our power. The US's diplomacy has sucked quite a bit when you think of it.