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    the only link at the moment
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstor...name_page.html

    It was on 8:00 Channel 4 today it’s quite a scary depiction of radical Islam clerics in Britain.
    They want to make Britain an Islamic (I was going to say republic but they don’t believe in that what is it called when religious leaders run a country.) and force everyone to be Islamic, they are really quite deluded.
    Did anyone else see it
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    Theocracy is one republic led by religious leaders, kind like Iran (but not)
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    And yall do nothing? Pathetic
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South
    And yall do nothing? Pathetic
    Kind of like what we in the United States do with the Mexican group that advocates the return of California, New Mexico, Arizona, Texas, and parts of Nevada, Utah and Colorado to Mexico.

    Ignore it and grant the illegals ammensty.
    O well, seems like 'some' people decide to ruin a perfectly valid threat. Nice going guys... doc bean

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redleg
    Kind of like what we in the United States do with the Mexican group that advocates the return of California, New Mexico, Arizona, Texas, and parts of Nevada, Utah and Colorado to Mexico.

    Ignore it and grant the illegals ammensty.
    Well its a problem with the entire western world really. These people are happy to use what we have given them agianst us. Something is being lost in translation
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    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    Isn't the Mirror kind of the UK equivalent of the Nat'l Enquirer? Celeb stories, Poli scandals, sex romps and UFO sightings? If they've got undercover reporters monitoring mosques, I'd presume the gov't does too. That's not exactly "doing nothing".

    On the other hand, once you subtract the undercover guys, I wonder how many actual devotees are attending services. Imams might be disappointed to learn they're preaching to the papers and the gov't and 10 old men.
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    From the article....
    IN a dilapidated mosque, half a dozen awestruck young men listen to a preacher spell out his vision for Britain.
    .....He certainly knows how to draw a big crowd .
    the muslims are coming to get you

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    Well, lunatic fringe is lunatic fringe.
    "Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. --- Proof of the existence of the FSM, if needed, can be found in the recent uptick of global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters. Apparently His Pastaness is to be worshipped in full pirate regalia. The decline in worldwide pirate population over the past 200 years directly corresponds with the increase in global temperature. Here is a graph to illustrate the point."

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    Yeah, except that the Islamic lunatic fringe has shown a consistent tendency towards aggressive, suicidal violence resulting in mass death of innocents.

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    That much the better the loons are the fringe then.
    "Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. --- Proof of the existence of the FSM, if needed, can be found in the recent uptick of global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters. Apparently His Pastaness is to be worshipped in full pirate regalia. The decline in worldwide pirate population over the past 200 years directly corresponds with the increase in global temperature. Here is a graph to illustrate the point."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watchman
    That much the better the loons are the fringe then.
    How long will they be the fringe? We all saw what happend in France last year. When push comes to shoe 90% of the muslims will side with each other. Thats when the **** will hit the fan. Thats when the Inams will seize the moment. Its the same here with the illegal immagrants. We need to truly intergrate these people or kick them out. We cant keep turing a blind eye and acting like our diversty programs fix these suituations.
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

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    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    And "integrate" means exactly what here ?
    "Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. --- Proof of the existence of the FSM, if needed, can be found in the recent uptick of global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters. Apparently His Pastaness is to be worshipped in full pirate regalia. The decline in worldwide pirate population over the past 200 years directly corresponds with the increase in global temperature. Here is a graph to illustrate the point."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watchman
    And "integrate" means exactly what here ?
    into western socitey. Womens rights and tolerance would be a start.
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    That's not "exactly". That's the vague part.
    "Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. --- Proof of the existence of the FSM, if needed, can be found in the recent uptick of global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters. Apparently His Pastaness is to be worshipped in full pirate regalia. The decline in worldwide pirate population over the past 200 years directly corresponds with the increase in global temperature. Here is a graph to illustrate the point."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South
    How long will they be the fringe? We all saw what happend in France last year. When push comes to shoe 90% of the muslims will side with each other. Thats when the **** will hit the fan. Thats when the Inams will seize the moment. Its the same here with the illegal immagrants. We need to truly intergrate these people or kick them out. We cant keep turing a blind eye and acting like our diversty programs fix these suituations.
    You'll probably find that we've got a firm eye on these loons. The thing about lunatic preachers is you know where they are. Keep track of his audiences, and you've got a decent database of potential firecrackers. Drive him away, and they go underground. We are currently working on integration as well, but from past experience it'll take around 10 years for the effects to show. It's not a case of one or the other - we're doing both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watchman
    That's not "exactly". That's the vague part.
    Well we cant keep the current status quo can we? Id start by dismantiling everything that sperartes along racil lines. No more Affirmitve Action no more black history month. Nothing that can be used as a flash point to create divison. Now this creates a whole nother slew of problems. So I really dont know what to do
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South
    Now this creates a whole nother slew of problems. So I really dont know what to do
    Precisely.
    "Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. --- Proof of the existence of the FSM, if needed, can be found in the recent uptick of global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters. Apparently His Pastaness is to be worshipped in full pirate regalia. The decline in worldwide pirate population over the past 200 years directly corresponds with the increase in global temperature. Here is a graph to illustrate the point."

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    Umm...If I was the goverment agent responsible for watching these wackos. Id make up some bull**** excuse to kick them out of the country.


    I thought black history month was a joke...It's not serios is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by holybandit
    Umm...If I was the goverment agent responsible for watching these wackos. Id make up some bull**** excuse to kick them out of the country.


    I thought black history month was a joke...It's not serios is it?
    it is
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    How far do these people have to go before they are treasonous or at least guilty of sedition? Why not just put these troublemakers in the clink and remove them from causing dissent. There are some quotes in that article that sound like they are reason enough to bring up charges. Is it different because they are clerics? Or is the gov just allowing it to happen because any direct move would cause too many negative ramifications?
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    Muslims do not intergrate that is a fact. You can deny it until you are blue in the face, but it does it exist.

    Muslims concentrate themselves in one area, refuse to intergrate, gain a majority in the local council, and Islamisize everything. Recently here in Australia one of our local fast-food chains changed all their food to be halal complient. That offends me. As a Christian, I should not be forced to eat food that has been prepared in a Muslim way.

    As you can also see from the outrage at the Pope's recent comments. All he did was quote a 14th century Byzantine emperor, and the Muslims go beserk. Come to think of it, they complain that we are vilifying them when we quote certain passages from the Koran that bid them to slay all the infidel.

    They do not intergrate, they are violent(Islam is a violent religion, for all those who say that Islam is peaceful, go read the Koran and you'll see what a nice peaceful religion it is), and they are slowly taking over Western countries.

    The sooner these people are kicked out of our countries, the better.

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    My work is being done for me.

    Its good to see some people have opened their eyes...


    We need to truly intergrate these people or kick them out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ignoramus
    Muslims concentrate themselves in one area, refuse to intergrate, gain a majority in the local council, and Islamisize everything. Recently here in Australia one of our local fast-food chains changed all their food to be halal complient. That offends me. As a Christian, I should not be forced to eat food that has been prepared in a Muslim way.
    As a non-Christian, should I have to abide by laws funded upon Judeo-Christian values?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ignoramus
    Muslims do not intergrate that is a fact. You can deny it until you are blue in the face, but it does it exist.

    Muslims concentrate themselves in one area, refuse to intergrate, gain a majority in the local council, and Islamisize everything. Recently here in Australia one of our local fast-food chains changed all their food to be halal complient. That offends me. As a Christian, I should not be forced to eat food that has been prepared in a Muslim way.

    As you can also see from the outrage at the Pope's recent comments. All he did was quote a 14th century Byzantine emperor, and the Muslims go beserk. Come to think of it, they complain that we are vilifying them when we quote certain passages from the Koran that bid them to slay all the infidel.

    They do not intergrate, they are violent(Islam is a violent religion, for all those who say that Islam is peaceful, go read the Koran and you'll see what a nice peaceful religion it is), and they are slowly taking over Western countries.

    The sooner these people are kicked out of our countries, the better.
    I could do the same for the "peaceful" religion of Christianity. The judeo-christian god was originally an ill tempered war god don't forget.
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    What's wrong with an Islamic Republic of Britain, that would be totally awesome.

    I wish good luck to the Muslims who strive for that goal. Even if they don't meet it, at least they are standing up for morality and trying to do something good for society.

    Certainly is a lot more respectable of a goal to turn Britain to Islam than it is to try to shove the infidel institution of democracy down the throats of Muslim nations (ie: War on Iraq).
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    What's wrong with an Islamic Republic of Britain,” : REPUBLIC.
    Joke apart, France had a lost past with Muslim and still wait for the Islamist wave to come. The last Riots were not Islamist, excepted in media.
    The loyalty of the Muslims to France was largely illustrated in all French Battle Fields with the Tiraillleurs, Tabors, Goumiers, Spahis and Chasseurs d’Afrique fighting along side the purely French units.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ignoramus
    Muslims do not intergrate that is a fact. You can deny it until you are blue in the face, but it does it exist.

    Muslims concentrate themselves in one area, refuse to intergrate, gain a majority in the local council, and Islamisize everything. Recently here in Australia one of our local fast-food chains changed all their food to be halal complient. That offends me. As a Christian, I should not be forced to eat food that has been prepared in a Muslim way.

    As you can also see from the outrage at the Pope's recent comments. All he did was quote a 14th century Byzantine emperor, and the Muslims go beserk. Come to think of it, they complain that we are vilifying them when we quote certain passages from the Koran that bid them to slay all the infidel.

    They do not intergrate, they are violent(Islam is a violent religion, for all those who say that Islam is peaceful, go read the Koran and you'll see what a nice peaceful religion it is), and they are slowly taking over Western countries.

    The sooner these people are kicked out of our countries, the better.
    I see a lot of venom, but not a shred of suggested solution that didn't boil down to naked xenophobia.

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    Well we are yet to hear your great solution to the problem, Watchman.
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    Hating other people who are different is exactly what the Nazis did.

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    Regardless of the attendance figures at the mosques, it does only take a few of these "zealots" to blow themselves up on a tube train after all. Numbers don't even come into it. Despite this it is a minority thing, and the Dispatches program really did make a lot of effort to blow everything out of proportion. The whole thing smacked of an undercover NF meeting, and this is because these people are nasty little extremist toe rags. Islam is the cover story they use to gain support from the impressionable youth. In reality they're simply racists and west haters.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ignoramus
    Muslims do not intergrate that is a fact. You can deny it until you are blue in the face, but it does it exist.
    They don't integrate. I've lived among them for many years. As to why they don't integrate I'm not sure. I'm not even sure as to why they need to integrate either. Sikhs and Hindus don't integrate much either, come to think of it neither do christians. They all seem to stick to their own communities. I work with a bigoted christian woman that considers herself far superior to her co-workers, and doesn't socialise with non christians.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ignoramus
    Muslims concentrate themselves in one area, refuse to intergrate, gain a majority in the local council, and Islamisize everything. Recently here in Australia one of our local fast-food chains changed all their food to be halal complient. That offends me. As a Christian, I should not be forced to eat food that has been prepared in a Muslim way.
    I suppose if they make up the majority in a certain district then they will probably vote for someone that represents their interests, i.e. another muslim. In the UK everyone notices those news stories about corrupt muslim MPs never mind the fact that they're all corrupt anyway, regardless of colour or creed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ignoramus
    As you can also see from the outrage at the Pope's recent comments. All he did was quote a 14th century Byzantine emperor, and the Muslims go beserk. Come to think of it, they complain that we are vilifying them when we quote certain passages from the Koran that bid them to slay all the infidel.
    Yes but that wasn't every muslim in the world was it? It was a minority again, a minority that the media love to film and photograph and show you again and again burning effigies or calling for jihads.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ignoramus
    They do not intergrate, they are violent(Islam is a violent religion, for all those who say that Islam is peaceful, go read the Koran and you'll see what a nice peaceful religion it is), and they are slowly taking over Western countries.
    Read the bible and see much the same thing. Religion on the whole is a cancer on society. The biggest problem is interpretation.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ignoramus
    The sooner these people are kicked out of our countries, the better.
    I would prefer to export some chavs.
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