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    Nope Reagan used his veto (just like Bush did) to oppose balanced reporting
    When, and for what law? And why did you also say:
    Reagan loved the doctrine so much that he didn't use his Presidential veto to block it becoming enshrined in law , neither did Bush II .
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    So if he opposes fairness and honesty in broadcasting he must be a Democrat right
    I never said that.

    Or is the premise for your topic of the testicular variety ?
    I believe you're confusing it with the premise for all your posts.

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    Surely if the media is the liberal hotbed that you guys claim it is (and how I love the American use of "liberal") then fair reporting would benefit the conservatives?

    Or am I missing something?
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    But what if the democrat controlled gov't were to interpret the long standing liberal bias in the media as moderate and centrist?

    Even if conservatives were helped - which is unlikely, as then the dems would not mention it - I would not want such gov't interference in free speech.

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    Why would this only be a tool of the democrats? In the unlikely event of it becaome a reality that is.
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    It's actually pretty comforting to know that we're back to blaming the Democrats for Everything Under The Sun (tm) and accusing them of trying to take control of Everything Under The Sun again. The Republicans' monopoly on that front was pretty worrying for a long time.



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    Default Re: Democrat Goals: Government Control of Media

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyspy
    Why would this only be a tool of the democrats? In the unlikely event of it becaome a reality that is.
    Because they have the power in Congress, and becuase of how this worked in the past.

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    Whatever the end result of the new laws, I'm sure Samoa and the Mariana Islands will be exempt. Move there if you don't like it.
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    When, and for what law? And why did you also say:

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    Reagan loved the doctrine so much that he didn't use his Presidential veto to block it becoming enshrined in law , neither did Bush II .

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    that went right over your head didn't it .

    Here have it in borats American style .......pause ....NOT .

    So Rabbit , did Reagan or Bush call on uncle Vito or not ?


    Surely if the media is the liberal hotbed that you guys claim it is (and how I love the American use of "liberal") then fair reporting would benefit the conservatives?

    Or am I missing something?
    That is what is so funny about this topic .

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    For those of you who have never seen an American News Broadcast. (& CNN International does NOT qualify) It is not actually real news. The national broadcasts are almost entirely of political content presenting a somewhat left leaning viewpoint except Fox News. (Back to them later)

    American News seldom if ever gives you an international viewpoint and even those world happenings are looked at in an American political viewpoint. Americans usually have no idea of what the rest of the world thinks of a particular happening unless they are told that by the media. As a result Americans have a very limited view of the world. Some of the fault lies with the U.S. Government who have not allowed foreign news programs to air, via cable, in the past. (Canadian TV channels were off air during news times) But primarily it is because American Media just covers things in an extremely slanted way. As a result Americans have a completely different view of the world than do Europeans. This is one of the reasons Americans appear so totally ignorant of world events so far as Europeans are concerned, and Americans believe that Europeans make irrational policy decisions.

    With that said, Europeans are totally ignorant of the actual American political environment. The facts of why Americans may believe as they do are given short-shrift and Republicans are usually presented as those in league with the Devil.

    Americans are indoctrinated to think that they are always the good guys with white hats riding to the rescue. Both political parties help buy into that.

    In fact, no one has a clear view of what is going on. Anyone in America concerned enough to be interested in politics likely has one extreme view or the other and no one occupies the middle ground. Europeans are given a slanted view as well where key facts are omitted. Everyone outside America thinks that Americans are dominated by either a free thinking elite or fundamentalist Christians with roving bands of marauders going about shooting people.

    In actuality, it is sometimes hard to tell who is more wrong. The Democrats are just as bad as the Republicans and everyone is right from their point of view. It is much wiser to be very sceptical of both. Both parties have their self interest at heart and neither was conceived for the purposes of evil. That does not mean that they don't both have some very bad ideas that if implemented would effect individual liberties.

    Back to FOX NEWS: Fox News does try to present a fair and balanced American viewpoint in their News broadcasts; the thing is that there are very few actual news broadcasts as compared to opinion programming. Their opinion programming is firmly slanted to the right and provides the majority of their on air content. Their news will even give more of an international point of view than the others but there is so very little of it, or there was as of about two years ago.

    American Political Parties are unlikely to do anything of positive consequence. Most legislation from either party is likely to be a do-something act which only looks good on paper and the actual result is detrimental; the Patriot Act and various Homeland Security measures on the right and the various gun control measures on the left being prime examples. Neither has had a real impact on security but has gone a long way in implementing Government interference into the lives of the public, while giving the impression that Government is trying to help.

    Perhaps, after many years of Government service, I am just a bit jaded but the phrase "I'm from the Government and I am here to help", is still reason to be concerned, no matter which government the person is from.


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    Around here the above tends to get summed up in rather more brief and rude sentences.
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