Poll: future MTWII mod:

[PseRamesses]

I´m curious what the TW-community is leaning towards experiencing in a future mod. From the top of my head there are numerous eras that would pass as a suitable backdrop for a TW-game

[PseRamesses]

Personally I´ve to go with a seldom portrayed era in human warfare and conquest, The R´n´Fall of Islam. Not only were their conquests only surpassed by the mongols but they brought technology and architecture to Europe that it wouldn´t be what it is today if it wasn´t for the muslims.

[FrauGloer]

I'd like to see a more detailed campaign on The Crusades, with all the Crusader Kingdoms, Principalities, and Counties. With all the intrigues, the power-struggles, the diverse crusader armies, with different rivaling arab families (Ayyubids, Fatimids, Seldchuks, etc.), the interfering Byzantine Empire, and unique (realistic) castle and city layouts (Jerusalem with the Tower of David, the Crac des Chevaliers). *droolsalloverhiskeyboard*

Oh I'd really love to see this...

[Gurkhal]

I think there already is a mod like that being made: Peoples of God - Total War.

[TosaInu]

Moved back to Citadel by TosaInu.

[cunctator]

Bronze age empires: 1500-1200 BC

[Geoffrey S]

I'd love to see a mod focusing in great detail on the Hundred Years' War, with particular attention to Flanders mid-14th century. A fascinating time, and would portray the French situation far more accurately than has been done thus far.

[heroic hungarian]

there is a mod for the crusades its on rome totalwar it's great

[heroic hungarian]

there is a mod for the crusades its on rome totalwar it's great

[Musashi]

I'm more interested in Byzantium than any of the other factions mentioned. They're horribly neglected by historians due to the fact that so many factions had a vested interest in minimizing their role in world events, but even after the western empire collapsed, the ERE was a major dominant power for a thousand years or so. That's a pretty big deal for something so ignored imho.

Not to mention that a lot of the knowledge the muslims brought to the west was actually preserved by Byzantium.

[dacdac]

The Islamic one would be cool, but wouldn't you have to kick out the Sassanid Empire (which is found in BI for RTW)? I guess playing as the Seljuks trying to take out the Ottomans would be cool as well. I dont think i know enough about that time period in that part of the world to judge how good an expansion for it would be.

[Tristrem]

my vote would be for a rise of islam total war. It is a very interesting time period that is usually forgotten in the gaming world. If someone were to start a on this period, I would offer to help, I don't know much about modding, but could help with the needed research

Good luck with whatever the choice ends up being

[IrishArmenian]

Post Roman: 284-610 AD

[Skott]

Post Roman 500AD-1050AD. Although I liked the Vikings era idea I feel the 500AD-1050AD gives a broader spectrum of factions and world to conquor. A person could still play the Vikings within this time frame as well.

[PseRamesses]

The Islamic one would be cool, but wouldn't you have to kick out the Sassanid Empire (which is found in BI for RTW)? I guess playing as the Seljuks trying to take out the Ottomans would be cool as well. I dont think i know enough about that time period in that part of the world to judge how good an expansion for it would be.

Sassanids decline, from around 630ad, due to muslim expansion would indeed be cool to play. The Sejuks came later, around 1030ad.
If you Google this time period and area you´ll find IMHO the most total war like scenario ever. Start with Mohammed at the gates of Mecka in 632ad and conquer all lands from Iberia to India. Twart invasions, schisms within islam and the rise of nations like the Seljuks, Ottomans, Mongols, Turks etc etc... wow, what a rush!

[PseRamesses]

"Bump"

[Varyar]

Definitely a Rise of Islam Mod. The period from the Fall of Rome to the Battle of Hastings is sadly neglected.

[Kraggenmor]

Industrial age: Total War.

[Musashi]

No one loves Byzantium :(

[PseRamesses]

No one loves Byzantium :(

U´n´I do Muashi :)

[PseRamesses]

Personally I´d appreciate voters to post their motivations. Right now about 1/4 of the voters has specified their interests. Thx.

[JCoyote]

I really would like to see China, simply because it hasn't been seen yet in a TW engine.

That or a later era that still had honest field battles. WW1 and later just wouldn't be appropriate for the engine anymore.

[Fisherking]

Seriously, number 11. Something from about 450 to 1080 encompassing the dark ages. The Vikings could be handled like the Mongols. The Friesians were raiding the coasts 200 years before the Vikings but never did much settling unless it was a bit in England. The main problem to this would be the number of factions available and the number of provinces allowed.

It is certainly not lacking in colourful individuals, battles, and the beginnings of empires. The collapse of Western Roman Empire, The collapse of the Hunnish Empire, The rise of the Merovingians, The rise of Saxon Kingdoms in England to William The Conquer. In the beginning most of Europe was still pagan and Islam was unborn. It saw Christendom united and then divided in two. It makes the Middle Ages seem tame by comparison.

[JR-]

Eurasia Total War set in the M2 time frame.

[IrishArmenian]

Peregrine, that would be a great Mod. Map would extend from Byzantium to India!

[PseRamesses]

Peregrine, that would be a great Mod. Map would extend from Byzantium to India!

Yeah, and the crusaders could be the "hordes" scripted to enter certain dates or at different requirements.

[PseRamesses]

Bump, again ;)

[Ars Moriendi]

Bronze Age ? This is a fresh idea. I've never seen it mentioned before, nor did I thought of it myself until seeing it here.
Should be interesting : taking the greeks to Troy, or Ramesess in a chariot against the hittites. (I'm no historian so correct me if I got my timeframe wrong).
The only problem I see with this : availability of reliable historical information on the warfare, weapons and tactics of the time - we have a lot of controversy trying to agree on the situation of 1000yrs ago, the bronze age is 3-4 milennia further back. It will probably turn out more of a fantasy setting then anything else, but it'll still be original and entertaining.

[cunctator]

Personally I´d appreciate voters to post their motivations. Right now about 1/4 of the voters has specified their interests. Thx.

With a 1500-1200 BC timeframe you have New Kingdom Egypt and hatti reach the peak of their power, the myceneans and still the Mitani, the glorious days of chariot warfare, the first imperial ambitions of the Assyrians, etc.

[PseRamesses]

With a 1500-1200 BC timeframe you have New Kingdom Egypt and hatti reach the peak of their power, the myceneans and still the Mitani, the glorious days of chariot warfare, the first imperial ambitions of the Assyrians, etc.

If we widen that timeframe a bit the Minoans, Phoenicians, Juda could be included and don´t forget the Nubians, Libyans, Sabaeans etc etc

The only problem I see with this : availability of reliable historical information on the warfare, weapons and tactics of the time - we have a lot of controversy trying to agree on the situation of 1000yrs ago, the bronze age is 3-4 milennia further back. It will probably turn out more of a fantasy setting then anything else, but it'll still be original and entertaining.

I did a fairly comprehensive mod about this era for CIVII. There are actually much known about the empires armies and their weapons from this era. The main problem are the smaller nations IMO. Also the development of weapons tech weren´t actually exactly fast so you´ll basically drag around the same base units through the entire game. If a mod around this era will be done, warfare should not be around technology but around experience. So the tech tree needs to support this in some way. In thoose days the veterans were essential.