Impoverished Gaul

**QwertyMIDX** · 01-19-2007, 22:46

They increase trade.

**Spoofa** · 01-19-2007, 22:50

well, would they actually of HAD them? i would think that if they had made them the EB team would of made them readily available.

**MarcusAureliusAntoninus** · 01-19-2007, 23:27

Many gallic tribes had a pretty good form of paved road historically. In EB the two gallic factions are suppost to have roads but do not due to an error in the EDB. There is some sort of retardation in the way the game reads the word "or" in the code.

**Fondor_Yards** · 01-19-2007, 23:34

Originally Posted by MastaSpoofa

well, would they actually of HAD them? i would think that if they had made them the EB team would of made them readily available.

They did make stone roads*the celts that is*. The building of the for the gauls is messed up right now, if you look through the files you can see they have the line for building them and describitions.

Money wise, take Tolouse and that Helvetii city, Tolouse=big sea trade and a silver mine, makes more then both emporion and massalia. Helvetii city=good land trade with a bunch of cities, and two silver mines for super big bucks

**QwertyMIDX** · 01-20-2007, 00:37

They didn't have paved roads in the same sense the greeks and romans did, but they did have roads paved in a different manner. Mostly using logs and earth.

EDIT: Anyway, longstory short, they're supposed to get paved roads and will at some point.

**Spoofa** · 01-20-2007, 01:48

oh, im sorry i dont have much knowledge of many "barbarian (used for lack of a better word)" tribes, i was just going on what our schools teach us in history class now a days.......... *sigh*

**HFox** · 01-20-2007, 23:33

The oldest 'paved' roads found in Europe I think are Celtic, but someone will confirm / deny this. By paved the Celts reinforced the surface with split logs. I think the oldest road surface found to date is in fact in Ireland....and they are still tracing its route from what I remember.

I also saw some information on the Celtic road map of Europe and I was staggered by the extensiveness of it......I tried to see if I can goooooogle it but couldnt. From the map I saw it was very extensive, from ireland to the black sea and predated the roman road network.

Obviously the romans took the idea, improved it and.....the rest is history.

**HFox** · 01-20-2007, 23:42

Heres a reference to it

In the townland of Derrycorr is a curious ancient road, formed of large oak trees placed longitudinally with planks of cleft oak laid over them transversely, and covered with sand and gravel about a foot deep, forming a road across the bog at a considerable depth below the surface, and in an excellent state of preservation, though, from the accumulation of superincumbent bog, the timber must have remained there for many centuries. The sand and gravel were evidently brought from Lough Neagh, from portions of petrified wood and chalcedony being intermixed with them; and the road, which was recently discovered while cutting turf, is traceable for nearly two miles to the Lough, and is supposed by the peasantry to have been constructed by St. Patrick, for the purpose of conveying sand for the building of Armagh cathedral. In the year 1815 a golden gorget, weighing 12 oz. and richly chased, was found in one of these bogs, and was purchased by the Rev. F. Gervais, rector of the parish.

.....my memory is that it predated st patrick by more than a thousand years.

**O'ETAIPOS** · 01-21-2007, 16:18

Originally Posted by HFox

The oldest 'paved' roads found in Europe I think are Celtic, but someone will confirm / deny this. By paved the Celts reinforced the surface with split logs. I think the oldest road surface found to date is in fact in Ireland....and they are still tracing its route from what I remember.

I also saw some information on the Celtic road map of Europe and I was staggered by the extensiveness of it......I tried to see if I can goooooogle it but couldnt. From the map I saw it was very extensive, from ireland to the black sea and predated the roman road network.

Obviously the romans took the idea, improved it and.....the rest is history.

Pleeease! This is Terry Jones "Barbarians" info, am I wrong?

That whole map used there is pure guesswork. Parts of road log roads were found in few places, but drawing huge system is huge overinterpretation. Log roads also were found as early as late bronze, few hundred years before celts (for example Biskupin in Poland).

Romans were building paved roads before they entered gaul. The construction is made for stone usage, not logs. There is no trace celtic log roads influenced romans, especially as "proper paved" roads were used in mediteranean area long before romans.
Do you know that in some regions roman roads are used up untill now?

The difference between best (known) roman roads and best (known) celtic log roads is like between paved road and highway. I do not want to say log road is rubbish, it is definately better than dirt road, but I have to say I hate when programs like this one misinforms people that much.