The "What are you playing?" topic.

[frogbeastegg]

I gave Gears of War a second go. This time I got further than the first effort. Sad to say that the game wins special status with me: it's the only game I've played on my xbox and completely dislike. It's my 39th game.

Ugly colours, ugly character design, ugly sound effects and music, cumbersome controls, whimpy weapons with downright nasty sound effects, boring level design, a story and set of characters which set a new low for a genre already famous for being bad in those regards. It's packed full of idiotic AI team members who hamper you by getting killed, forcing you to battle hordes alone or get killed reviving them. On hardcore the enemies are bullet sponges and each kill takes a drearily long time. Above all and most damningly, the combat is plodding, dull, fiddly and boring.

There's nothing about it I like or find redeeming. Considering I can play games with plenty of flaws and still enjoy them, that's almost unheard of. I got it in a bundle deal with the sequel last year. The sequel will never get within 6 feet of my console's disc drive.

Next up? I don't know. I hated Gears so much it's kind of put me off games. Anything I play will be better; I want something so good it will obliterate the foul taste left by Gears.

[tibilicus]

I gave Gears of War a second go. This time I got further than the first effort. Sad to say that the game wins special status with me: it's the only game I've played on my xbox and completely dislike. It's my 39th game.

Ugly colours, ugly character design, ugly sound effects and music, cumbersome controls, whimpy weapons with downright nasty sound effects, boring level design, a story and set of characters which set a new low for a genre already famous for being bad in those regards. It's packed full of idiotic AI team members who hamper you by getting killed, forcing you to battle hordes alone or get killed reviving them. On hardcore the enemies are bullet sponges and each kill takes a drearily long time. Above all and most damningly, the combat is plodding, dull, fiddly and boring.

There's nothing about it I like or find redeeming. Considering I can play games with plenty of flaws and still enjoy them, that's almost unheard of. I got it in a bundle deal with the sequel last year. The sequel will never get within 6 feet of my console's disc drive.

Next up? I don't know. I hated Gears so much it's kind of put me off games. Anything I play will be better; I want something so good it will obliterate the foul taste left by Gears.

At least you didn't try the MP section..

God that was infuriating..

[Gregoshi]

Next up? I don't know. I hated Gears so much it's kind of put me off games. Anything I play will be better; I want something so good it will obliterate the foul taste left by Gears.

I have to try to return a favour froggy. Music Match showed up once again on my radar this week. An elegantly simple game with an absolutely beautiful and soothing piano piece to drive the game. If this doesn't do it, maybe it will remind you of another game that will. A frog without a game just doesn't seem right.

[frogbeastegg]

I have to try to return a favour froggy. Music Match showed up once again on my radar this week. An elegantly simple game with an absolutely beautiful and soothing piano piece to drive the game. If this doesn't do it, maybe it will remind you of another game that will. A frog without a game just doesn't seem right.

It's like catching the sparks created by fireworks. Nice little game. Thanks.

I got 788,651 on my first go.

[Husar]

Next up? I don't know. I hated Gears so much it's kind of put me off games. Anything I play will be better; I want something so good it will obliterate the foul taste left by Gears.

Have you played Drakensang yet?
I mean I don't seem to be the only one who liked it (though I started a second game before finishing the first, I just don't like really hard end-game battles with nothing really new to discover anymore but sadly too many good RPGs seem to have them) so you may like it as well.

[frogbeastegg]

Have you played Drakensang yet?
I mean I don't seem to be the only one who liked it (though I started a second game before finishing the first, I just don't like really hard end-game battles with nothing really new to discover anymore but sadly too many good RPGs seem to have them) so you may like it as well.

You're far from alone in liking it. It's being talked about on other forums I read, and nearly everyone has good to say of it. I was waiting for the UK retail release quite eagerly; I had it pre-ordered the day play.com dropped the price to £17.99. Before I can play it I need to complete NWN2 plus expansions; one sprawling PC RPG at a time, anything else is overload.

I tend to have a PC game and a console game on the go at the same time. The PC game is invariably massive and quite demanding, while the console game provides a foil to that with something that's lighter. I've got a stack of console games to choose from and none really appeal to my current, except for Disgaea 3 and Lost Odyssey. Talk about inviting disaster! Big, huge ultra-long JRPGs do not pair nicely with big, huge and ultra-long PC RPGs!

[FactionHeir]

*points at post on the previous page*

[caravel]

http://www.openttd.org/en/

[Husar]

Haha, not bad, I might try that sometime.

[frogbeastegg]

I ended up starting Ninja Gaiden II. Balletic skill-based swordfighting at 60FPS, limbs and blood everywhere and most of it (amazingly) not mine. I like.

[Monk]

Back to basics:

Mass Effect was the first game I ever got for 360 and its one I keep coming back to. Taking a break from trying to compile a research paper that sounds readable and played a bit again.

I'm reminded with how boring the mission on Eden Prime was. But still, even after all this time when Seran turns to the camera, his jaw rolling as he grinds out the word "Nihlis.." and begins to slither toward your mission back up.. it just gives me chills. Never ceases!

Though I have to express my utter frustration at the voice actor who played Male Shepard. God, could this guy be anymore monotone? I've gotten more entertaining dialogue from lectures about USB ports (and I'm not joking. I really have gotten more entertaining speech from lectures about USB ports.) He speaks with the same sense of urgency about finding the Usari Consort that he does when he discovers there's a thresher maw standing two feet away. I think i've only completed the game with a Male Shepard once. ONCE.

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

I just played the Dawn of War 2 demo through steam. It's a delightfully meaty demo, well worth a look. I think I'll buy the full one when it's significantly cheaper (or after they release an expansion pack for three).

[seireikhaan]

I've gotten re-hooked back on Mount and Blade, with the Eagle and Radiant Cross mod. Truly amazing work, the mod beautifully integrates musket warfare into the game while still retaining a lot of balance. The huge variety of troops is quite nice. Ironically, however, the Khergits have still retained their power despite getting almost no additions themselves- their pure archery actually makes them even more fun to play with now that muskets litter the fields. Finding the Elephant gun as an easter egg item after defeating a roving band of cossacks was entertaining.

[edyzmedieval]

I'm a bit of a conservative when it comes to games, I play what's tried and tested and not very diverse. Still playing Day of Defeat:Source, Red Orchestra but also Medieval: Total War.

Lately I added Call of Duty 4 to my chest, pretty good, although it gets boring and repetitive.

[Warluster]

Lately I added Call of Duty 4 to my chest, pretty good, although it gets boring and repetitive.

I love singeplayer, and MP is alright but the amount of hackers and sore losers turned me off it. I find America's Army has got the same modern warfare, plus better ideas such as squads, leaders and pre-chosen classes.

Just bought Company of Heroes: Opposing Fronts. Great game (Especially love the things the British say) except the SP campaign, for the Germans, seems a constant recycle of defend against great horde of attackers, then advance and fight back. Gets boring, and skirmish is more entertaining.

Also deciding whether to buy Empire: Total War or Dawn of War 2. Any recommendations between the two? Leaning towards ETW because of its time era but DoW2 looks really fun from its descriptions around this thread and forum.

[Decker]

I love singeplayer, and MP is alright but the amount of hackers and sore losers turned me off it. I find America's Army has got the same modern warfare, plus better ideas such as squads, leaders and pre-chosen classes.

Just bought Company of Heroes: Opposing Fronts. Great game (Especially love the things the British say) except the SP campaign, for the Germans, seems a constant recycle of defend against great horde of attackers, then advance and fight back. Gets boring, and skirmish is more entertaining.

Also deciding whether to buy Empire: Total War or Dawn of War 2. Any recommendations between the two? Leaning towards ETW because of its time era but DoW2 looks really fun from its descriptions around this thread and forum.

That's been around since the first Call of Duty game. People just couldn't wrap their heads around the fact that someone was kicking their tailpipes... That's why imho, WaW has all those extra perks in MP.

And between ETW and DoW II... I'd go with ETW or the first DoW game, especially the Soulstorm stand-alone add-on which has really good reviews from what I've been hearing. But between DoW II or ETW, I'd go with ETW.

[naut]

I've gotten re-hooked back on Mount and Blade, with the Eagle and Radiant Cross mod. Truly amazing work, the mod beautifully integrates musket warfare into the game while still retaining a lot of balance. The huge variety of troops is quite nice. Ironically, however, the Khergits have still retained their power despite getting almost no additions themselves- their pure archery actually makes them even more fun to play with now that muskets litter the fields. Finding the Elephant gun as an easter egg item after defeating a roving band of cossacks was entertaining.

I'll have to give it a go.

Edit: Was playing it for the last 2 hours, pretty fun. Fairly balanced. I agree with the Kergits, bows and arrows are just insane. So deadly.

[naut]

Just picked up Heart of Winter and Icewind Dale II earlier today, always wanted them since I first played Icewind Dale and Baldur's Gate. I always thought Icewind Dale was too short and linear.

[frogbeastegg]

:stands on a mound of slain enemies, brandishes a katana and screams in triumph: Ninja Gaiden II, completed! On acolyte level, this game's 'easy' mode but still a sight more difficult than the hard mode on most games.

I'm rather proud of this. Not greatly so, just proud enough to have a warm little glow. This isn't the sort of game I play much, and I don't have super fast reactions or button bashing skills. I'm not a fan of games which are made with the intention of the player dying many, many times before the end; it gets boring. Ninja Gaiden is notorious for its difficulty and for the demands it places on the player. Most people don't get half way through acolyte before giving up.

With the exception of a few spots the game was highly enjoyable. Skill based combat that rewards care, attention and a willingness to learn. There's still loads for me to learn. Loads. I need to learn those many things and practice them until they become unthinking reflex if I'm to tackle the higher levels. Still, there's the rare moment where it all pulls together and I get a hint of what I'd fight like if I had mastered those skills. It's an elaborate, lethal ballet of evading at the last possible frame of animation, triggering the right move at exactly the right split second, and mowing a path of destruction through a mob without getting a scratch. Then the moment passes and the ballet reverts to a melee.

There are some cheap enemies. There are some badly designed fights. These hold the game back from the highs it should have reached. During the final boss gauntlet the game glitched on me and I was forced to reset the console, losing all of my progress. Sometimes the controls don't seem as responsive as they should be.

I've started a dragon sword weapon master run now, and I'll do some more weapon master runs once I finish that. Eventually I'll move to warrior level. Once warrior and all 8 weapon master runs are done I'll try mentor level. In the vanishingly small chance I survive that, I'll try master ninja.

Returning to level 1 and fighting with nothing but the dragon sword has been incredible. It's shown me how much I have learned. Fights where I nearly died on the first run I pass with mere scratches - or untouched - the second time.

[I of the Storm]

Returning to level 1 and fighting with nothing but the dragon sword has been incredible. It's shown me how much I have learned. Fights where I nearly died on the first run I pass with mere scratches - or untouched - the second time.

Ah, the joys of the learning curve...

[Monk]

Gears 2 Horde mode update: 39 waves survived!

I have to admit that for as shallow an experience gears 2 offers in its story, its actual gameplay is quite addicting when combined with a "Last Stand/Survival" mode, which is exactly what Horde is. I can only hope Epic keeps the mode when 3 comes out. If so I will buy it on the spot. The mode is that fun imo.

I've become quite adept with the Longshot Sniper rifle and the Hamerburst assault rifle. After using the Lancer for so long, focusing purely on precision fire weapons is an amazing change of pace. The Hamerburst especially really takes some getting used to with its kick back, and the hours of frustration learning to pull off headshots with the Longshot are finally coming to fruition. As for the actual "player vs player" of gears 2 online, I'm slowly getting into that as well. I really enjoy Annex (take and hold), mainly because its one of the few game modes where you can respawn. Though it still can't hold a candle to Horde!

[frogbeastegg]

Ah, the joys of the learning curve...

Learning cliff. :remembers how much is left to master: Learning mountain.

Based on various message board posts, the tiny percentage of players who complete the game on all 4 difficulties die around 1,000 times and take between 80 and 100 hours total. You can expect to die upwards of 500 times alone on master ninja mode. Finishing master ninja still isn't the end; the combat system is deep enough that there will still be plenty for you to work on.

Game's certainly value for money provided you can take the heat.



I had chance to play Rise of the Arognauts. As I have been waiting for the game to go down to an acceptable price since before Christmas I didn't dither about. I'm several hours in, on the second island. So far it lives up to its reputation: a rough around the edges 'poor man's Mass Effect' with oodles of slightly warped Greek mythology. If you like talk-heavy RPGs, or if you like Greek myths and don't have an apoplexy when the traditonal story is altered, you will like the game. If neither of those apply, stay far away. I like both, and that's why I was waiting.

[Fragony]

Having a blast with the Red Faction demo, excellent. Destroy everything

[Monk]

Was raging really hard over the weekend when I learned that microsoft points are hoplessly gouged by retail stores like Best Buy and Wal-Mart by upwards of 30%. I checked their prices on Live only to find you can get 5000 points for a little over 60 USD. Good thing i didn't buy any of those shamelessly overpriced pre-paid cards.

Anyway. I got the Snowblind map pack for gears 2, the Mass Effect DLC that i never got and downloaded Jade Empire from Live.

Yeah, i'm four years late to the party, but I have to say I am really enjoying Jade Empire. The combat system is really fluid and despite the serious damage enemies do with a single swing, I am enjoying myself quite a bit. I haven't gotten deep enough to see the plot, tonight though!

[frogbeastegg]

Was raging really hard over the weekend when I learned that microsoft points are hoplessly gouged by retail stores like Best Buy and Wal-Mart by upwards of 30%. I checked their prices on Live only to find you can get 5000 points for a little over 60 USD. Good thing i didn't buy any of those shamelessly overpriced pre-paid cards.

Really? That's shocking! When looking at MS points for the UK market, buying the cards is the only way to get a good deal. The RRP for the cards keeps the individual point->pound value identical to the online store, and the cards turn up discounted in a lot of places. Play.com have them on 2 for £30 at the moment, meaning a £6 saving compared to buying directly from MS. I never buy my points online, and I never play the RRP of £17.99 for 2100 points.

I have to say I am really enjoying Jade Empire. The combat system is really fluid, and despite the serious damage enemies do with a single swing, I am enjoying myself quite a bit. I haven't gotten deep enough to see the plot, tonight though!

Don't hold your breath for Jade Empire's plot and characters. The lower your expectations of it the better chance you might like it. I found it to be the ultimate Bioware-by-numbers, to the point where I guessed everything that would happen within the first hour. I didn't like the combat much either, or the deja vu quest design. This game is the reason why I left Mass Effect sat on my shelf for months; I was afraid it would be as bad and then I'd have to scrub Bioware off my list of good developers.

If you like the combat then that's a good sign. Just keep those plot expectations low and you should be pleasantly surprised. I had high hopes for another KOTOR style hit and that was fatal to it.

[Monk]

Don't hold your breath for Jade Empire's plot and characters. The lower your expectations of it the better chance you might like it. I found it to be the ultimate Bioware-by-numbers, to the point where I guessed everything that would happen within the first hour. I didn't like the combat much either, or the deja vu quest design. This game is the reason why I left Mass Effect sat on my shelf for months; I was afraid it would be as bad and then I'd have to scrub Bioware off my list of good developers.

If you like the combat then that's a good sign. Just keep those plot expectations low and you should be pleasantly surprised. I had high hopes for another KOTOR style hit and that was fatal to it.

Ugh. Froggy, why must you be the screen door on my submarine?

I was happily diving into something not Gears of war for the first time in a while and you come by and just crush my dreams so thoroughly. If this were Fallout 3, you'd have the Dream Crusher perk.

If you like the combat then that's a good sign. Just keep those plot expectations low and you should be pleasantly surprised. I had high hopes for another KOTOR style hit and that was fatal to it.

In all seriousness, thanks for the heads up. I too was thinking "Bioware did KOTOR, this must be great!" when I made the purchase off Live last night. Your post brings me back down to earth a little in that I won't be expecting much, only to be entertained.

I only got to play around with the combat a little but I liked it, I thought it worked well with the 360 controller. It does take some getting used to though.

[Tratorix]

I've been playing Sword of the Stars a lot recently. Really fun turn based strategy with total war style battles. It's basically a somewhat less deep Gal Civ 2 with tactical real time battles. The game has 4 playable races( with a new race added in each of the 2 expansions) all with different engines, meaning no two races really play the same in the way they expand. The tech tree is also slightly random, meaning you have chances of getting different weapons and upgrades each game. Hopefully it should get me through sending my 360 in for repairs.

[Monk]

Jade Empire:

Oh boy. Where to start. Well i got to really dive in last night, with froggy's words still ringing in my ear but I was feeling optimistic. The combat, while equating to a button mashing fest was engaging enough in the manuvering it challenges you to do that it had my interest. Yet for all the fun I have in combat I am continually surprised with how the game treats me. I am actually convinced this game doesn't like me, that Jade Empire is anti-social and does not want to be played.

I have reason to believe this for the symple fact that, while the combat is very satisfying, it becomes mind-numbing and easily exploited. As soon as I discovered that my first support character, if set to the right 'stance' would continually regenerate my Chi, i set her to regenerate my energy while i tossed fireballs at the enemy's face. Suddenly the only challenge that came from the combat was negating by the fact I had a walking chi factory behind me, enabling me to spam heal on myself every 5 seconds.

The camera has really earned my ire. I'm trying hard not to compare this game with KOTOR but in this aspect I have to. In Kotor the Camera is behind and a little above, in fact, in MOST good third person games that's the case. Behind and above. In Jade Empire you're just behind, with no control over the camera in how low or high you can tilt it. Sure, you can move it from left to right, but you're still stuck at a frustratingly low level! It's like someone paid me to run behind the protaganist, 5 feet behind. Mercilessly focused on their rear despite all obstacles.

The dialogue really.. really makes me hate this game. I know the genre lends itself to it, and honestly I don't mind reading a novel in game form (I rank Mass Effect on my list of "best games evar!" to attest to that) but not when the subject matter is so, soul crushingly, boring. This is the biggest drawback for me. The plot and the surrounding dialogue. In the words of the Nostalgia Critic, all it is is just fighting and explaining.

How do we stop the antagonists?

Oh let me explain.

Where do we go next?

LET ME EXPLAIN!

It's just... ugh. I hate it so much, I can't stand it. I think I was around the Pirate cove when a character repeated himself 3 times in the course of one line of questioning that I just threw my hands up and exclaimed 'Done.' and shut off the console. This is my biggest peeve in writing, and anyone who is a regular in the Mead Hall will tell you I often tell writers to show, not tell. Well jade empire is just one big tell fest and I can't subject myself to that.

My last arrow of hatred that I intend to burry deep into the back of Jade Empire is actually one that made me laugh. There's a part after the first dramatic plot device that mades you get on a flying machine and take off for parts unknown... and then the game turns into R-Type. I'm not kidding. You go into a mini-game that is an exact clone of 1942/R-type genre. it would be so laughable if it wasn't right in the middle of a serious RPG! Here I am, trying desperately to like my characters and suddenly I'm playing R-type. What. The? (if you don't know what R-type is, google it. Its a great game, its just a mini-game clone of it doesnt belong here..)

I only spent about $13 USD.. so I guess i got my monies worth, but I am actually glad I never bought this thing when it came out.

[johnhughthom]

I think Jade Empire is the only Bioware game that felt like a chore getting to the end. I didn't find anything particularly bad about it, but then there wasn't anything good either. That mini game was very strange indeed, though I don't remember finding the camera annoying and I get very frustrated with bad camera controls.

[Crandaeolon]

JE appears to be a kind of love it/hate it game. I rather liked it; at least it attempted something new with the combat system and itemisation. (BTW, Fights will get harder as the game progresses and as you meet non-human opponents. Also, for FPS/action RPG veterans the normal setting is too easy.)

Regarding items, the "less is more" -system was IMO a step in the right direction. Extreme example would be NWN2: Inventory Management Hell - a far too sizable chunk of your time goes into selling stuff and crafting. Kotors were rather clunky in that department as well, and Mass Effect was actually a step backwards.