Missle Fire Rate:

[Zpartan]

Just did some quick tests cause I saw someone complaining about archers vs. crossbowmen.
Did all tests on grassy plain in clear weather against Papal Guard. Always placed missle units 3 rows deep (don't know if that matters).

1. Retinue Longbowmen(90) - missle 8
1 minute = 5 volleys and 17 kills
1 minute = 5 volleys and 16 kills

2. Aventurier(90) - missle 14
1 minute = 3 volleys and 12 kills
1 minute = 3 volleys and 13 kills

3. Janissary Musketeers - missle 17
1 minute = 4 volleys and 38 kills
1 minute = 4 volleys and 37 kills


I don't know if I missed anything on the test.

[dopp]

3. Janissary Musketeers are only firing with one third of the unit each time because of the reload by ranks thing. Their actual RoF is much slower.

[Miracle]

Sorry for necroing a 5-month old topic but it's about time someone posted something more complete and accurate.

Notes:
- The following states the average time in seconds between the start of the firing animation of an individual soldier or artillery piece
- Gunpowder infantry are assumed to be in a two-rank dense line formation and in fire-by-rank mode
- Flaming, exploding or rotting ammo have no effect on artillery firing rate
- The larger the unit size, the more the firing rate may vary
- In some cases an individual may skip a volley even though there is a target in range and in clear line-of-sight

Infantry

Javelin 19
Bow 11/22
Crossbow 17
Naphtha Bomb 9
Gun 32

Cavalry

Javelin 9
Bow 11.5
Crossbow 14
Jezail 13.5
Pistol 14
Elephant Gun 11
Elephant Artillery 13.3

Artillery

Ballista 17.75
Catapult 22
Trebuchet 29
Bombard 30
Grand Bombard 30
Cannon 20
Culverin 20
Basilisk 20
Monster Bombard 26
Mortar 23
Serpentine 21.5
Ribault 25.5
Monster Ribault 30.5/88
Rocket Launcher 41.5

[Rhedd]

Most cannons have faster ROF than catapults and trebuchet... How monsterously inappropriate.

Interesting info!

[Philbert]

It's not inappropriate. Catapults and trebuchets are huge wooden machines in which you have to add the potential energy by hand.
For cannons, the potential energy is prepackaged in the gun powder. Also, the barrel is at a convenient height for reloading.

[Kobal2fr]

It's always bugged bugged me how slow to fire javelinmen are. "Reloading" ? What the frick do they have to reload ?! It's a THROWN STICK !

Thus they spend like 3 minutes with their arms raised between volleys, defiantly staring down anyone who would defy their mighty twigs (that is, unless said anyone actually gets in range of the twigs. Then it's skirmish time )...

[Rhedd]

It's not inappropriate. Catapults and trebuchets are huge wooden machines in which you have to add the potential energy by hand.
For cannons, the potential energy is prepackaged in the gun powder. Also, the barrel is at a convenient height for reloading.

Sounds logical, but that's certainly not the fact of the matter.

Honestly, I've always wondered why some medieval cannons could only achieve fire rates of like, four shots per hour, but it's still true.

Heck, some that would be classified as "great bombards" in the game were reported to fire three or four times a day.

Sure, it takes a good long time to crank down a trebuchet and load it, but oddly enough, not nearly as long as it takes to load a medieval cannon.

They sure weren't dropping a shell in the breach and firing away, like you see in WWII footage!

Oh, and Kobal, I think the "reloading" delay with javelins comes from them having to pull yet another spear out of their bums, as if by magic. That's gotta take some time. ^_^

[nnnm]

thanks for the info Zpartan
Is there any why to increas fire rate?