Ptolemaic Ethiopians
In the description for the Ethiopian troops of the Ptolemaic army on the site it says:
I was wondering what "staggering" evidence this is?There is little textual evidence for their involvement in Ptolemaic armies, though the amount of period art material depicting them fighting with the armies of the Ptolemies is simply staggering.
Re: Ptolemaic Ethiopians
They made no mention of staggering evidence. They simply said that the presence of Ethiopian or other sub-saharan soldiers in the art of Ptolemaic Egypt is so common that to deny their involvement in Ptolemaic armies would be silly. Makes sense to me.
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Re: Ptolemaic Ethiopians
Originally Posted by Justiciar
There is little textual evidence for their involvement in Ptolemaic armies, though the amount of period art material depicting them fighting with the armies of the Ptolemies is simply staggering.
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Re: Ptolemaic Ethiopians
Yes, and I would like to see this period art, or at least some sources depicting it so I can find it myself.There is little textual evidence for their involvement in Ptolemaic armies, though the amount of period art material depicting them fighting with the armies of the Ptolemies is simply staggering.
Re: Ptolemaic Ethiopians
Our Ptolemaic guy has been hard to get a hold of lately, but I'll try and get him to show up. I do remember reading about some relationship between the Kingdom of Meroe and the Ptolemaics, especially under Ptolemy IV though. I think it was in Bevan's the House of Ptolemy, but I'm a bit hazy.
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Re: Ptolemaic Ethiopians
The only evidence that I know of for the equipment Ptolemaic native troops are a number of terracotta figurines found in Egypt. They look fairly similar to your "Ethiopian" unit, with a few major differences. These figurines carry small double-axes and shields, rather than large double axes, and wear what may be mail but which may also be some sort of padded or quilted jerkin. These figures, however, are generally thought to be Nubians, not Ethiopians.
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