Quote Originally Posted by Bijo
Thanks, guys, for the 'good thread compliments' and all of your contributions. What can I say? I just love these kinds of topics


@Yunus

O yes, I think that's indeed the best we can hope for, at least, but when I include Andres' words-

-I, cynical as I am, think that it, indeed, would not happen and that we humans are not designed to achieve peace. Think of the scale involved, finding ways, methods, to actually get this understanding and removal of doubts, fears and other negative emotions. A total overhaul of humanity: it would cause many new problems, but maybe I'm thinking about a too big thing here. There might be ways.


Way I view humans generally, is that they are animals with those basic instincts and emotions we've been talking about. But I think humans are worse than animals. Not only do we/they still possess these tribal/animal/beast-like traits in some form more or less, we have more intelligence than our wild pets we put into zoos. And it is intelligence, creativity, resourcefulness, etc., wherewith we even take our destructive evil natures to greater heights.

Our intelligence, combined with, and even influenced by, those emotions and instincts, seriously threaten the world and peace (on all levels) more than ever.

The fact that man hath ideas aplenty makes us sophisticated and brutal creatures. And if humans are not to be at peace, if we are naturally designed, like animals, to constantly be in conflict (and an occasional ceasefire), then it's truly a most undesirable race.... the human race. So many great abilities, and what do we do? We fuel our most basic evil desires, thoughts, and the likes.
This would be true, but surely as individuals and as a species we can control our emotions - greed tells us to exploit the planet - logic tells us this would not be sustainable. Anger and fear tell us to build nuclear weapons, reason tells us if we use them then we too will be destroyed along with our enemies.

The teachings of buddism etc are all about controlling ones ego and not being a slave to ones emotions, the no self state. I think that while in the past people have been manipulated by organisations preying on peoples emotions, surely there are still those in our society that are able to control their emotions and be master of them, if those peoples example was admired and copied eventually the hundreth monkey would learn it and then the whole world.

Why should people change - if the longevity of the species isnt enough, then we should rightly go to our doom, hopefully before the planet is too wrecked for something else to emerge from the ashes.

There have been many mass extinctions over the geologic history of this planet. The geological record will stand as testament to the end of the Holocene being the worst of these, both in terms of numbers of species and being the most rapid. We have the dubious destinction of being Lords over the greatest mass extinction of life this planet has ever known. This period may be refered to by whatever lifeform that replaces us as Le Grande Mortus. ALL HAIL MAN THE DESTROYER. Good riddence I say.