She can never win the actual election, only undermine her own party now. Surely that's obvious ?
She can never win the actual election, only undermine her own party now. Surely that's obvious ?
Yes, Iraq is peaceful. Go to sleep now. - Adrian II
I am not so confident. Almost every woman I know says they'll vote for her just because she is female. Also, many Republican and Democrat men will vote for her because she is a woman. She will also get a lot of votes from minorities. Not to mention that the Democrat party always votes its ticket no matter what. So even if they hate her, most demos will vote for her. I think she may have a real good chance of winning. Everyone said Bill didn't have a chance either, but he won. (One of the big reasons he won is because women who knew nothing of politics voted fo him because they thought he was "cute" :P Another is because he had foriegn funding...which Hilary may be getting indirectly...)Originally Posted by doc_bean
Hammer, anvil, forge and fire, chase away The Hoofed Liar. Roof and doorway, block and beam, chase The Trickster from our dreams.Vigilance is our shield, that protects us from our squalid past. Knowledge is our weapon, with which we carve a path to an enlightened future.
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I was under the impression that this was explicitly forbidden (wich is probably why you said "indirectly")Originally Posted by Vuk
Care to elaborate?
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I'm so glad I can't vote now. Between a party of arseholes and a party of arseholes, I might have to kill myself.
Get the hell out of the race, Mrs. Mothers-Against-Everything-Remotely-Close-To-Freedom.
People in the U.S. (now U.S. citizens, owning U.S. companies (which in reality are nothing but branches of foriegn companies), will donate to the democratic party if she wins the primaries. (several biggies have promised to do so, and others were involved directly or inderectly in funding Bill, and will probably fund her. The less said about that the better...)Originally Posted by Kralizec
In other words, U.S. citizens and companies doing other countries bidding.
You have to wonder, if it is in another countries best interests for a canidate to win, is it really in ours? (esp. a competing super power like China...)
Hammer, anvil, forge and fire, chase away The Hoofed Liar. Roof and doorway, block and beam, chase The Trickster from our dreams.Vigilance is our shield, that protects us from our squalid past. Knowledge is our weapon, with which we carve a path to an enlightened future.
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That does not make too much sense. Either the US citizens are owning these ominous companies you talk about, or they are branches of foreign companies.Originally Posted by Vuk
Again - what is it? Foreign companies or foreign countries? The interests of foreign companies are not necessarily the same as those of foreign countries.In other words, U.S. citizens and companies doing other countries bidding.
How about getting a bit more specific?
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Well if history is any indicator she will carry all those principal Democratic strongholds, you know, the ones where the dead are the major voting block.
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Education: that which reveals to the wise,
and conceals from the stupid,
the vast limits of their knowledge.
Mark Twain
Major Dem. candidates:
Senator Hillary Clinton - New York
Senator Barak Obama - Illinois
Former Senator John Edwards - North Carolina (Kerry's running mate in 2004)
Senator Joe Biden - Delaware
Major Republican candidates:
Senator John McCain - Arizona
Former New York City Mayor Rudi Giuliani
Former Governor Mitt Romney - Mass.
Senator Chuck Hagel - Nebraska
Former Governor George Pataki - New York
There's a bunch of bit player wannabes from both parties, Reverend Al "Shake down Whitey" Sharpton, Newt Gingrich, General Wesley Clark are the only ones with any name recognition at all, but they don't really stand a chance.
McCain's chances got slimmer since he has backed Dubya's recent surge decisions for Iraq. I think he was the Republicans best chance, but probably not now. Hagel doesn't back the surge, and said so publically, and he's not the only Republican Party member either, Bush is dangerously close to losing the majority backing of his own party. Hagel is definitely the best darkhorse candidate. Rudi has local appeal, but no chance, same for Romney, and Pataki's a joke his own party likes him less than Bush. As my governor for the last decade I probably hate him more than his party. hehehe
Hillary, no thank you. Obama is interesting, but I don't know that much about him, yet. Biden, can't recall much of anything worthwhile about him. Edwards, blah.
I wanted McCain in place of Dubya back in 2000, but he got back stabbed by his own party during the nomination process, Pataki helped kept him off the New York ballot.
Don't know who I'll vote for now, we'll have to wait and see.
"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." *Jim Elliot*
When one is embarking on a tirade against "them" - the shadowy figures that control one's country (be it Japanese, Jews, whites, blacks or whatever) being specific doesn't help as then evidence might be required.Originally Posted by Ser Clegane
Just know it's "them" and it's all their fault...
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An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
Science flies you to the moon, religion flies you into buildings.
"If you can't trust the local kleptocrat whom you installed by force and prop up with billions of annual dollars, who can you trust?" Lemur
If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain.
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