And the GOP rejoices...

**Marshal Murat** · 01-21-2007, 00:23

I like Obama.
He is a 'clean slate' that everyone will impress their opinions on.

Women and the whole fem. rights will vote for Hillary.

Luckily, my parents have guaranteed to move to Scotland or Nicaragua (maybe even Costa Rica) if Hillary wins.

**Samurai Waki** · 01-21-2007, 08:53

...While on the whole, I dislike Hillary Clinton, and would vote Obama any day of the week, most voters don't look at the hard facts and only see whats directly in front of them and make assumptions.

People will look at Hillary Clinton as a Champion for Women's Rights...blah blah blah.

People will snicker to themselves as they see the obvious ryhme between Obama and Osama.

And People Will Flatly Refuse to vote Republican because GWB royally screwed the entire Party's Credibility.

**Navaros** · 01-21-2007, 10:02

I found it really funny, I read this in an article and they were right, she was a carpetbagger just like they said:

Her own political career began to take shape in late 1998 when New York Democrat Daniel Patrick Moynihan announced he would not seek re-election to the Senate seat he had held since 1976.

The campaign trail was not always friendly. For almost every cheer, there was a shouted "Go home, Hillary!" and the emerging Republican theme that carpetbagger Clinton simply wanted to use New York as a launching pad for a later presidential run.

Guess those in NY who voted for her must feel pretty stupid now for not believing the truth when it was told to them all those years ago.

**Fisherking** · 01-21-2007, 11:52

Originally Posted by Navaros

I found it really funny, I read this in an article and they were right, she was a carpetbagger just like they said:XYZ

Guess those in NY who voted for her must feel pretty stupid now for not believing the truth when it was told to them all those years ago.

If you say that, it makes me think that you are not a Dem. or at least not a strong one.

Didn't the party spend all that time doing their best to defend the Clinton's for 8 plus years even when it was obvious to any one with a brain and even some plant life that they (the Clintons) were corrupt? It got to the point to where the Dem.s rejoiced at the latest ridiculous statements and counter accusations by the various mouthpieces. They themselves didn't believe it. It was all a matter of just frustrating the Rep.s.

Ds & Rs hold fundamentally different viewpoints on what is fair or good. Ds see it all as relative and any thing they do to defeat the evil of the Rs is justified. That is also why the dead always vote Democrat. Not that Republicans wouldn't use dirty tricks but if found out they would actually feel the need to do what they perceive as the honourable thing and admit it or resign. The Democrats just raise smoke screens and try to paint everyone as doing the same thing and obscure the facts.

Republicans actually try to convince people that their ideas are better and will help everyone. Once elected some of the high ideals go by the wayside and they help their friends, the same as the Democrats do but the Republicans are always more interested in the appearance of honesty than are the Democrats.

I suppose it breaks down something like this:

Democrats are right and will do almost anything to foil those evil Republicans.

Republicans are pretty sure they are right and want people to agree with them, please

. Usually a bit desperate.

There are exceptions of course, (Jimmy Carter comes to mind) but in the end you won't like who you get no matter which party you're from. It might be better to get Republicans just because they can usually be convinced to resign when they screw up really bad.

**AntiochusIII** · 01-21-2007, 13:24

Originally Posted by Fisherking

Ds & Rs hold fundamentally different viewpoints on what is fair or good. Ds see it all as relative and any thing they do to defeat the evil of the Rs is justified. That is also why the dead always vote Democrat. Not that Republicans wouldn't use dirty tricks but if found out they would actually feel the need to do what they perceive as the honourable thing and admit it or resign. The Democrats just raise smoke screens and try to paint everyone as doing the same thing and obscure the facts.

Originally Posted by Fisherking

Republicans actually try to convince people that their ideas are better and will help everyone. Once elected some of the high ideals go by the wayside and they help their friends, the same as the Democrats do but the Republicans are always more interested in the appearance of honesty than are the Democrats.

I'm sorry but, this is just too much.

**Fisherking** · 01-21-2007, 13:42

My favourite candidate will only appear on the ballot in Nevada. The name of that candidate is:

None of the Above.

Here is a little quote I hope you enjoy.

It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly American criminal class except Congress.
Mark Twain

**Major Robert Dump** · 01-21-2007, 16:25

Yes, the Bush family has never gotten any "indirect" foreign support from the nice people in Suadi Arabia, and we've never sent the Navy to protect privately owned oilrigs in the Persian Gulf that are plenty capable of protecting themselves. I love politics.

Guliani doesn't have a chance, he's a gun grabber. The NRA and GAO have already mobilzed against him.