Multiplayer M2TW forums

[7Bear7Bottom]

That's a good idea really. Can we start this discussion please?

Which forums would be required? I guess it's nice to have a Barracks like forum, like in the past, to muster clanmembers. But perhaps there are other ideas too?

No it isn't a good idea, and every clan has their own forums to deal with bad blood between clans. No need to bring drivel and slop to a good place for information and fun.

How about this instead, put a link to here.http://forums.totalwars.net/

And leave the Drivel where it belongs.

[Monarch]

Bottom mate I think tosa just means he wants suggestions for the mp forums.

The quoted post was just sort of how to set out suggestions in a nice, civliszed (sp) way

[RTKBarrett]

Its nice to see TosaInu and other admins take an interest in the multiplayer side of things, though i believe a warzone will not be beneficial unfortunately :-(

[Cheetah]

Make love not warzone.

I do not think either that the ORG would need a warzone.

What would be good though is a tourney forum where tourney annoncements can be made and tourney results can be posted. Like the jousting fields. (And that is why the current name of this forum is misleading, as it is for tactical discussion and bug reports; I already said it before the naming event took place but no one was listening ...) Of course each major tourney has its forums but it would be good to have one where these tourneys could be reviewed, major events (like deadlines, winners) kept tracked.

[Jochi Khan]

If you re-read the Topic...Make a Warzone...post #23 and then refer to Tosas post with quote above.
You will see that pevergreen was suggesting, in his reply to the author of the Make a Warzone Topic, what would have been a more polite, civilised way of posting.
It was not a request to set this up.

[TosaInu]

No it isn't a good idea, and every clan has their own forums to deal with bad blood between clans. No need to bring drivel and slop to a good place for information and fun.

Sorry for not being clear: it is a good idea to have a civil discussion and a civil result from that discussion.

I've visited the NET in the past and I've seen some public forums from some clansites, and some of that content has no place here.

However, there are several other things that do have a place here. The Barracks, like used in the STW and MTW days, were not my favourite hangout. Apart from some exceptions, it worked well though.

Right now, the tourney and clan messages (no not the 'bloodbad' ones, but that's not the only aspect of clans is it?) are 'swamped' in the other MP related topics here. Something like a Musterfield forum could be added.

I'm sure you can think/see other needs too. Perhaps something like a tactical analysis of battles you played, an MP AAR? Perhaps some mini campaigns? It doesn't matter much, as long as it's ok for everyone.

[Monarch]

Well a replays section could be pretty cool the only problem is to get people to use it. Obviously some like to closely guard their tactics. But personally I'd have no problem in submitting some, however I do understand why some people may not want to. Perhaps some kind of poll asking who would submit replays or something.

A mustering hall, well being just a young nooblet I never played stw at all or mtw online, so I'm not sure how a musturing hall would work. I'd also like to point out most people who visit these forums are already clanned.

I like cheatahs idea, it also ties into your idea tosa about AARs, because tourney AARs could possibly be posted there, and also mine because tourney replays could be posted there. Perhaps tournaments could get a pinned topic each in this forum, in it would be enlclosed some information about the tourney and the results can be posted up there.

Just a few ideas,

[Lavos]

With ten people posting here I don't see much use in another lobby.

[ElmarkOFear]

How about a lobby, which only recognized clan leaders (or their designated Emissary) could actually post in. This would allow the announcement of new members, of recruitment, of tournament, leagues, etc . . All without some of the negative interference you see in some MP clan forums on major official sites. It would be easily moderated, if necessary and it would be a central place to come for clan news and happenings in the MP community.

I think a section to post AARs would be nice as well as another section to post replays and screenshots of battles. This would allow for some interesting discussions on maps and how best to attack/defend and other such team tactics.

Clans are doing a disservice to the MP community by not discussing such things. People who might stay around if they were able to learn such information now just get frustrated and leave since they don't stand a chance of winning, without such info. It all leads to a smaller MP community and one which eventually dies away.

I would rather be an average player in a very large MP community than one of the top players in a very small one.

Besides, if you TRULY believe you are skillful, you do not need to hide behind secret units/tactics/etc . . You will win anyways. Why not share things with the community as a whole?

It all leads to a better, larger, more-competitive MP experience. That was another reason why STW and MTW were so well thought of. They were very large MP communities and most clans were willing to train new players and show them all the "secrets". It didn't kill any clan's success. There were more excellent clans during those times than ever.

Good luck in deciding.

[pevergreen]

I am honoured to be quoted by the might Tosa.

As people have said, that was just a suggestion, and I was quite angry at the time, defending the org's honour

More than 10 people post here (me!) but not very often, as not much discussion happens.

Clans are doing a disservice to the MP community by not discussing such things. People who might stay around if they were able to learn such information now just get frustrated and leave since they don't stand a chance of winning, without such info. It all leads to a smaller MP community and one which eventually dies away.

That is why i believe Elmo should be MP forum moderator (no offence to any MP mods if there are any, Elmo is just so uber)

[7Bear7Bottom]

No Warzone? gooooood.

Not sure you are all aware of this, but the 7Bear7 Clan has an extensive training program since Shogun Total War for all new players to the game. Even the worse player ever can go through our training program and become a well rounded player in a matter of 3 months.

We have an extensive archive of army builds, tactics, and replays spanning over the generation of games that have been available to anyone who wanted to join a clan and was very new to the game.

Posting replays can cause "some" people to get upset. This is the major reason we do not post such ideas, in the past it generated hostility towards us. So we decided to develop this training program of scrolls to develop individual new players instead.

Seven years of thought has gone into this clan and is one of the reason we are still here today. As it was thought out in the beginning, we still have an open door policy for all new players in the community.

It would be interesting to see the reactions to replays if you guys decide to do this.

I'll be right here with anticipation watching this develop.

*Jumps behind sand bags and puts helmet on*