Multiplayer M2TW forums

[ElmarkOFear]

Bottom: I stated I had been away for awhile and didn't know much about those clans I was familiar with during the STW/MTW days. One statement in your previous post, made it sound like someone had to join your clan now before you guys would train them. I thought that odd, given what I know of you guys, and that was why I asked the question. It is good to see you old guys are still out there helping promote the MP community. Unfortunately, your clan seems to be in the minority currently. PS: Is Kuma playing M2TW? I haven't seen his ugly butt around the lobby yet. If not, tell him to stop being so cheap and join us. Tell him I am getting cocky and he needs to humble me! That will get him to play M2TW online! hehe

I want to encourage others to do what you guys do. Next time any of you see someone interested enough in MP to be asking questions about what units/tactics to use, take a little time and explain it to them. Play a couple of games with them, offering advice on how they can improve their game. Do so with no other purpose than to promote the MP community and I think we will see a marked increase in the number of players who join in our community.

One reason a section of the forum need be made for such discussions is it helps highlight MP and would be one-stop shopping for all things concerning bettering your MP play.

I like the idea of calling it a "Learn To Play" MP forum. This gives the section meaning and a purpose. It also helps focus the discussions on "Learning to play" rather than "Bragging rights". Really, all that is necessary now is to find someone to moderate the new section on a trial basis (let's say 3 months), then after that, everyone could evaluate whether it is serving its purpose or not. If not, and few are posting in it, then it could be merged with the regular forum.

Think of it as a FrogBeast Egg "living document" which is constantly being updated as discussions bring up new information. As a matter of fact, I think FrogBeast Egg would be a good person to mod such a new section, given Frog's expertise in teaching others about the TW series of games.

Wonder if Frog would be up to it?

[7Bear7Bottom]

Of course you would get better training if you joined us, that's a give in.

Training people off the cuff is not easy and is why most don't do it.

I also know about 4 player types and those of you have tried to train new players have seen this.

1. New player doesn't listen to you at all and does his own thing regadless of what you say to them. Maybe doesn't speak English. Maybe....:)

2. New player listens to everything you say about unit selection then when game starts, rushes in and dies. Tells everyone on the team you suck and leaves you in a 4 vrs 3 3 vrs 2 etc. hee hee (is this where the skill comes in? Was this what you were talking about?)

3. New player takes all your advice in everything you tell them, then when game starts, says bye, then disconnects on purpose. Bottom is not sure why this happens, Twilight Zone stuff.

4. New player does everything you ask and follows direction.

So there are some people you can help and other that are unhelpable. Setting up forum might help things, why not test it out and see if it flys.

Bottom would be happy to post replays but he doesn't want any Wolves upset.

Kuma plays still you just need to know his names online, pm me for them hee hee.

[Stig]

Well it doesn't especially need to be a "Teach the New" forum. You can also discuss tactics in it. From these tactics the new can then learn something, etc etc. They will then come up with tactics, and you can discuss them, and so on

[YellowMelon]

What is per se, we would make a forum for MP Newbies where there would be a group of teachers designated to help people. What I mean is, you would have a .ORG subclan called Squires or something of that sort. Players of known reputation would donate their time to training these people online and help them. So when people come online and they wear a certain tag, they are easily identifiable to the teachers. The teachers are also responsible for posting lesson guides for these newcomers. Am I making any sense? It is not a clan but a readily identifiable group who are contributing to the knowledge base of the community.

Also I think that a tournament section is a must. Though it would require an active administrator to keep the active tournaments and tournaments resources stickied to keep the forum worth viewing. It would be a good way to help minor tournaments spread the news, and especially a guide for new clans to find out where the competitions are, otherwise its very difficult to stumble into the core grou of tournament goers. If I started off just now I would never find the MP subculture.

[Stig]

Maybe easy "Org-only" tourneys work. I don't join tourneys, I can't be bothered to make time and such for people I don't even know from a forum. And I know enough who think the same, they can't be bothered to sign up for them.
If you make tourney's organized here on .org you might get loads of players who never visit the MP forums, because they don't look into them.

[YellowMelon]

Yes I agree that a tourny for the .ORG would be fun, but imo the most skillful players in the community don't really come here. As I said in my previous post, they are involved in a different circle of the community than the players who play here. Not to say the .ORG people are not skillful, but the typical competitions have been organized by another group of the community who do not necessarily affiliate themself with the .org.

I have been wanting to write a MP user guide for some time, but have lacked the inspiration. I tried to make one with Cow but he bailed on TW. Perhaps if Bazzer would assist me in the project, I think we could come up with some very good and useful information.

[Jochi Khan]

Another suggestion for a forum name... MP Training Ground

Learning to Play could be as an Announcement, with a description of what the aims of the forum are to start the forum going.
Then some Topic headers to give the members somewhere/something to start posting.
For example...1.-Unit selection...2.-Deployment...3.-Method of Attack/Defend...etc. etc.

Just some ideas to start things rolling.

A link in this post... https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...6&postcount=43

The replays/screenshots issue would be entirely up to the individuals whether or not they want to show them. Surely they would only be used as an instructional tool to help show what is being said/illustrated/taught?

[Jochi Khan]

Another suggestion for a forum name... MP Training Ground

Learning to Play could be as an Announcement, with a description of what the aims of the forum are to start the forum going.
Then some Topic headers to give the members somewhere/something to start posting.
For example...1.-Unit selection...2.-Deployment...3.-Method of Attack/Defend...etc. etc.

Just some ideas to start things rolling.

A direct link to the Academy, mentioned in my earlier post, to show what could be set up for the Training Ground or Training Field

http://nomadalliance.forumup.com/for...dalliance.html

The Academy has been very well written and presented. Well worth reading.
A good introduction to MP for present players/newcomers to the game.