Multiplayer M2TW forums

[7Bear7Bottom]

I agree with Lavos here. Besides if I'm not mistaken there are few skilled players playing with fake tags. Not willing to admit defeat against a newbie with a ''true tag''? heh

Yes there are a "Silent" few who use fake tags to be "Silent" about themselves. Some use this "Silent" tag method because they are so obnoxious in their regular tag they have been "Silenced" by the majority of people and put on ignore/banned.

Which coins a phrase, "Silence" is golden?

Some one recently sudgested in the Monkey Business tournament to post the replays but you can guess the reaction. So we will have to pool our resourses and maybe try to get the admins from the tournaments to put it in their rules?
Wishful thinking?

[Lavos]

Not hard imo, just put a rule that winner must post replay or they don't get a win. :D

[YellowMelon]

Lol bottom, who can decipher your code!

I wouldnt say that that case is about overcompetetiveness, just douchebags. I am overly competetive, hate to lose and such, but I don't act like them...except to antigonus, but he deserves it. And Monsta...he too deserves it.

[ElmarkOFear]

Or they could post a Game Of The Week, highlighting a really nice tactical play or turning point in a match. Then explain to everyone where in the replay this event happened and allow everyone to be awed by their brilliance. :)

[Denali]

I now see bottom why a certain member of your clan registered on our forums .... hmm to watch the replays?
hmmm...

[TosaInu]

Little 'puns' make big snipes, the result is not constructive.

[Orda Khan]

I now see bottom why a certain member of your clan registered on our forums .... hmm to watch the replays?
hmmm...

Many a true word spoken in jest eh? A lot worse has happened.

This is asking for trouble.

The bitching and personal insults will follow, they already have so why provide more space for it?
There is no MP community

......Orda

[ElmarkOFear]

Orda: Even though you and a few others do not feel M2TW MP is worthy of play, (and apparently even worthy of discussion), there are quite a few who ARE enjoying the game, warts and all. Now the .org site needs to decide if it wants to continue on as a mostly STW/MTW forum (with a small group of RTW/M2TW participants thrown in), or if it wants to work on including the new MP community among its ranks.

If the .org wants to grow its MP community, I recommend establishing a new MP M2TW section. If it wants to just revel in the past MP community, and complain about the current state of MP affairs, I recommend not creating an M2TW MP section.

If a majority of you are satisfied with the status quo, then do not change anything. Continue on, as is, if it makes you happy.

If a majority of you decide to try to bring some more members to the .org and work on recreating a portion of the MP community STW/MTW enjoyed so much, then make the changes Rob recommended.

Its your decision. Either way, the TW series is going to move forward, with or without some of you, and so will its new fan base. You can insulate yourself from the new community or you can try to work within it to make it better.

I realized awhile back, that the old TW series/MP community is gone. It isn't coming back. This has been proven during the last two game releases. CA isn't going to change its mind on this. Once I left the resentment behind, I found I was able to enjoy M2TW MP.

I am the first to admit M2TW has problems, some of which will never be resolved, however the old STW/MTW community had some of these very same problems, but it dealt with them, and enjoyed the MP game for many years.

I am sure it is cathartic to point out all of M2TWs flaws and to prove to the new enthusiastic members how inferior the current game is when compared to the old, but what is it accomplishing? It is chasing off the very people who would keep this forum exciting.

At first, I thought some older patrons were pointing out flaws in the current game as part of an effort to persuade new patrons as to what makes a game good. However, from what I have heard recently, it appears this isn't the case. It has turned into an ugly "us vs. them" argument where one side says it is right in its assessment of the game, and the other side says it is right. To tell you the truth; I no longer give a damn about who is wrong or who is right. I would be satisfied with having a place where M2TW MP players can hold discussions without the older, and sometimes more jaded, patrons jumping in to explain how inferior M2TW is, how the current MP community has no clue as to why M2TW is inferior, how the new game has been dumbed-down, and then passing judgement on anyone who happens to enjoy playing the current game.

Case in point: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...t=73337&page=8

If that cannot happen here, with a new M2TW MP section, I am sure it will happen somewhere. That's not a threat, but a given. Someone will decide to give it a shot, though it would have a higher probability of success here, where the .org would also reap the benefits of an influx of new patrons.

As I said before. It's up to you: decide.

[Stig]

You can always try. A couple of people don't like the game, but there are also people that DO like the game, why not give them something too.
If you don't try you never see if it works ... but then if we don't try we can never prove certain people wrong ... scared?

I would be satisfied with having a place where M2TW MP players can hold discussions without the older, and sometimes more jaded, patrons jumping in to explain how inferior M2TW is, how the current MP community has no clue as to why M2TW is inferior, how the new game has been dumbed-down, and then passing judgement on anyone who happens to enjoy playing the current game.

my agrees

[Orda Khan]

Orda: Even though you and a few others do not feel M2TW MP is worthy of play, (and apparently even worthy of discussion), there are quite a few who ARE enjoying the game, warts and all. Now the .org site needs to decide if it wants to continue on as a mostly STW/MTW forum (with a small group of RTW/M2TW participants thrown in), or if it wants to work on including the new MP community among its ranks.

If the .org wants to grow its MP community, I recommend establishing a new MP M2TW section. If it wants to just revel in the past MP community, and complain about the current state of MP affairs, I recommend not creating an M2TW MP section.

If a majority of you are satisfied with the status quo, then do not change anything. Continue on, as is, if it makes you happy.

If a majority of you decide to try to bring some more members to the .org and work on recreating a portion of the MP community STW/MTW enjoyed so much, then make the changes Rob recommended.

Its your decision. Either way, the TW series is going to move forward, with or without some of you, and so will its new fan base. You can insulate yourself from the new community or you can try to work within it to make it better.

I realized awhile back, that the old TW series/MP community is gone. It isn't coming back. This has been proven during the last two game releases. CA isn't going to change its mind on this. Once I left the resentment behind, I found I was able to enjoy M2TW MP.

I am the first to admit M2TW has problems, some of which will never be resolved, however the old STW/MTW community had some of these very same problems, but it dealt with them, and enjoyed the MP game for many years.

I am sure it is cathartic to point out all of M2TWs flaws and to prove to the new enthusiastic members how inferior the current game is when compared to the old, but what is it accomplishing? It is chasing off the very people who would keep this forum exciting.

At first, I thought some older patrons were pointing out flaws in the current game as part of an effort to persuade new patrons as to what makes a game good. However, from what I have heard recently, it appears this isn't the case. It has turned into an ugly "us vs. them" argument where one side says it is right in its assessment of the game, and the other side says it is right. To tell you the truth; I no longer give a damn about who is wrong or who is right. I would be satisfied with having a place where M2TW MP players can hold discussions without the older, and sometimes more jaded, patrons jumping in to explain how inferior M2TW is, how the current MP community has no clue as to why M2TW is inferior, how the new game has been dumbed-down, and then passing judgement on anyone who happens to enjoy playing the current game.

Case in point: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...t=73337&page=8

If that cannot happen here, with a new M2TW MP section, I am sure it will happen somewhere. That's not a threat, but a given. Someone will decide to give it a shot, though it would have a higher probability of success here, where the .org would also reap the benefits of an influx of new patrons.

As I said before. It's up to you: decide.

Thanks for that Elmo,
I have my opinions too and I am entitled to post them.
I decided that balanced MP had gone a long time ago. Unlike many I was not enfatuated with MTW and once it was patched it was worse. My view on the game is irrelevant, I am fully aware of that too. There are MP forums for every TW release already so I can only assume that these new sub forums are M2TW related or are we getting MP sub forums for each title?
Whatever the case I stand by my statement that it is asking for trouble.

I already see an element of this with certain members. What happens when some enthusiastic youngster posts some ideas on tactics only for someone to post a replay showing that he 'pwned' these tactics? Then the huge egos and personalities who believe they truly are some glorious General begin. I've seen all that before and I'm not interested.
In that link you will see my reply and it is precisely for these reasons.

BTW, I did not even mention the game, I was talking about MP sub forums of the nature suggested already and the MP community

......Orda